We have to settle the debate.

[Doctorimstr03k]

I want everyone’s HONEST opinion on the matter

 

[Carl2229]

While they are not nearly as absorbent as a "real" diaper, pullups definitely qualify as a "babyish" garment to catch excretory output. (mostly pee)
I just wish that some ABDL diaper company would make the large investment in the equipment to make cute character pullups in adult sizes. For those of us who are mostly DLs, but dabble in some AB play, a toddlerish pullup in our size would be a huge addition to our wardrobes.

 

[oldpppants]

The trouble would be that it would prob'ly be a very expensive addition.

 

[Rusher]

They fall into the daiper category. Haven’t worn them but I bet they are better then depends

 

[chamberpot]

I wear pull ups during the day and they work very well for me..yes they are a diaper.

 

[Chimera]

I don't think they really qualify as a diaper in the literal sense, here's why: pullups are meant for potty training when it comes to kids at least, because they're kind of a "halfway house" between regular underwear and tabbed diapers. They aren't really an undergarment you should be using intentionally for large wettings or anything like that, that's just asking for leaks. For adults, they are probably ok for light to mid sized wettings. The reason tabbed diapers handle floods much better is because they have more fluff and it's everywhere in the absorbant core vs the trimmed down design of a pull on that's supposed to be more discreet and only has a small strip of fluff down the middle. And you just can't run away from the fact that the tapes on a diaper go a long way in helping you get a good seal around your legs, which is cruical for using a diaper multiple times without leaking...because the wetter the diaper is, the slower it will absorb.

About a week ago, u/nyckidryan posted this thread on the abdl subreddit about why we can't have pull-ups that work like they did when we were kids and it is worth a read. "Unless you're willing to time travel and rescue the volume of your bladder and the diameter of your urethra, a high quality and inexpensive pull on is not going to happen without some more advances in chemistry and polymers"

So..are they diapers? Whatever helps you sleep at night! Probably the best pull-on I've ever used as an adult is Northshore's gosupreme, which I got in a sample pack. They held two decent wettings, but I didn't dare push them farther than that!

 

[SparkyDog]

I guess define what a diaper is

is a diaper something absorbent one wears over their groin & butt

Lots of different names for absorbing products
as they are trying to teach kids to potty train etc they move away from the word diaper to show the child they are growing up
is it a lie? yes / no

 

[babykeiff]

I've always seen pull-ups not as diapers. Diapers are the thick pad / pin on cloth type of items designed to keep the wearer warm and comfortable even when full. A pull-up doesn't tend to do that in my mind - it is more of a medical item, that once it gets wet, is designed to be disposed of and replaced. This image is further inhanced by the collection of porn sites that elude to being ABDL aware, yet portray naked females going ga ga go go with pictures of rattles etc while wearing a pull-up. To me, that is cringeworthy and a far cry from the image in my mind of a happy infant in bulky diapers playing with its toes etc. Even the baby cuddled up asleep on its mothers chest would be a wrong image if that baby is wearing pull-up.

From a mental perspective, a pull-up is the same as a diaper to a person wearing it when asleep as it envokes the same feelings and associated emotions one had as a chronological baby. If a parent placed a bedwetting child in a pull-up, the mental confusion in inhanced and the child reverts to using the pull-up similar to what it did as a baby.

So, to answer the question - Do pull-up count as diapers - to the person wearing one, yes - to match the percieved image of a baby, no.

 

[BobbiSueEllen]

The bigger thing is where the word "diaper" came from: it came from two Greek words, "dia-" (meaning "thoroughly") and "asper" (meaning "white"). Thoroughly white. So, the diaper, an exclusively-baby incontinence garment, was named by virtue of its visual color appeal, not its function, which is to contain bodily effluence unpredictably and uncontrollably emitted by the genitals and anus. The name stuck over--and through--time, as early as Shakespeare's era.

What we generically call "the pull-up" is a more-recent innovation, a stopgap between diapers and continence, meant to be discreet, owing to the stigma diapers lend to the fight for continence. Its liquid capacity is limited compared to diapers, as it relies upon a degree of continence to be effective in its job, which is to help bolster the wearer's quest to eventual continence. It's as effective as a diaper regarding fecal incontinence, provided said effluence is not too liquefied. But even diapers aren't perfect.

So, we have two forms of incontinence garments: briefs/diapers...and absorbent undergarments. By virtue of history, pull-ups aren't diapers...but nonetheless perform a lighter-duty version of the job so they should be accepted in our community for what they do...and if some wanna call 'em "diapers", why not? Those who merely enjoy wearing them also enjoy their stealth. And many IC folks here wear 'em, too.

My verdict? "'De gustibus non est disputandum', said the lady as she kissed the cow." Game on!

But if someone has to ask themselves, they should consider the following Q&A:

Q. What does a diaper do?
A. It diaps.

 

[babykeiff]

The bigger thing is where the word "diaper" came from: it came from two Greek words, "dia-" (meaning "thoroughly") and "asper" (meaning "white"). Thoroughly white.

The history of the American term 'diaper' is more to do with the cloth weave than the Greek history. In relation to its use on babies it is more to do with the word Nappy, and anglised form of the french word 'Nappe' which translated to napkin / small table cloth. This 'nappe' was used to follow RC thinking that exposure of genitalia was a sin. The French aristrocrats used a napkin to protect their babies modesty. It was common in that era that English would copy aristrocratic behaviour. This followed on to US imigrants, but since carrying a lot of clothes during trecks across that country was not done, material would be ordered in bulk - i.e. diaper weave cloth.

The full history of how we got to diapering children today is a lot wierder than most people woud believe, and is off topic, but simply, the diaper term is not from Greek (those babies were naked), but from US trading posts and the cloth weave.

 

[SparkyDog]

Love learning about diaper nomenclature

 

[BobbiSueEllen]

The history of the American term 'diaper' ...(???)

The word "diaper" started in England...hence, the Shakespearean reference. Shakespeare used the word in one of his plays.

 

[Cottontail]

As I see it, pull-ups are to diapers like squares are to rectangles. All squares are rectangles, but not the other way around. At the same time, everybody uses “square” and “rectangle” as if there’s no overlap.

 

[babykeiff]

The word "diaper" started in England...hence, the Shakespearean reference. Shapespeare used the word in one of his plays.

Shakespear used 'diaper' in 'Taming of the Shrew' Let one attend him with a silver basin Full of rosewater and bestrewed with flowers, Another bear the ewer, the third a diaper where the word diaper refers to a washcloth and/or a type of cloth. In no form would one hand a lady / gentleman a diaper / nappy to use to wash oneself.

The next line in the play almost confirms this - And say, “Will ’t please your Lordship cool your hands?”

Do you think that Shakespear and/or the charachters in The Taming of the Shrew were ABDL / wore diapers?

The type of weave of this cloth was made to be thick, soft and absorbant, and is a type of twill weave (note double or thick). In Shakespearean reference, this could also be used as a type of towel to dry one's hands. It was never supposed to be used as something to contain pee / poop in that era!

 

[Doctorimstr03k]

Admittedly not the response I expected but………ok.

 

[Nowididit]

I've said this before and I'll say it again.
Pull-ups are not diapers!!
A pull-up is pulled on by pulling it up over the legs. A diaper is taped on.
If pull-ups were diapers than the adult disposable absorbent underwear packages would clearly state Adult Disposable Pull-up Diapers. They don't, so they are not diapers. They are adult disposable underwear and underwear is pulled on like a pull-up!

 

[Pampers4thisboi]

I want everyone’s HONEST opinion on the matter

hey doc???? Hope ur well

 

[Pampers4thisboi]

hmmm i think depends on thickness

 

[LittleAndAlone]

Q. What does a diaper do?

It tickles.

 

[Pampers4thisboi]

It tickles.

Tickles???? Till u wee