Have you ever been "Outed" by someone you trusted? What's your story?

DonnieDiaper said:
Have you ever been "outed" as and "AB," "ABDL," "Bedwetter," or "IC" by someone you trusted?
What happened?
What's your story?
Was it "verbal" or did they actually physically "expose" you or your diapers?
Were they trying to be "helpful," "mean-spirited," or was it an "accident"?
Are you happy about it now (later) that others know?
Not outed as such but it was a close call. Luckily for me my wife knows everything about me. If she didn't then yes, I would have been outed there and then!

I live in the north of England and some years ago I found the incontinence shop / nappiesRus. Turns out it's only a 5 minute drive from where I live and I counted myself a lucky person to be able to literally nip out and get whatever I needed or wanted.

The incontinence shop was my go to place for everything until one particular day when I was in their showroom, a girl who is a friend of my sister in law was knocking on the window from the warehouse and waving at me. I had no idea she worked there!

It was one of them moments where you just want the ground to open up and swallow you, I've never been as anxious in all my life, my heart was pounding and I could feel myself getting hotter and more red faced!

Within minutes, my wife phoned me to say her sister had phoned her to say that her friend had seen me there and was wondering why I was there. This conversation happened in front of my mother in law and some other family members. Luckily she managed to explain it away.


What got to me most was that for a company who claims that they are discreet, I felt that my confidentiality had been breeched.

With hindsight I should have put a complaint in but at the time I really didn't want to draw any more attention to myself (I felt like I was in a no win situation).

Needless to say, I had an absolutely horrible experience and I've never been back there since. I can't even order online as the girl does the online orders and has a month as wide as a double decker bus!
 
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TreeLad said:
Not outed as such but it was a close call. Luckily for me my wife knows everything about me. If she didn't then yes, I would have been outed there and then!

I live in the north of England and some years ago I found the incontinence shop / nappiesRus. Turns out it's only a 5 minute drive from where I live and I counted myself a lucky person to be able to literally nip out and get whatever I needed or wanted.

The incontinence shop was my go to place for everything until one particular day when I was in their showroom, a girl who is a friend of my sister in law was knocking on the window from the warehouse and waving at me. I had no idea she worked there!

It was one of them moments where you just want the ground to open up and swallow you, I've never been as anxious in all my life, my heart was pounding and I could feel myself getting hotter and more red faced!

Within minutes, my wife phoned me to say her sister had phoned her to say that her friend had seen me there and was wondering why I was there. This conversation happened in front of my mother in law and some other family members. Luckily she managed to explain it away.


What got to me most was that for a company who claims that they are discreet, I felt that my confidentiality had been breeched.

With hindsight I should have put a complaint in but at the time I really didn't want to draw any more attention to myself (I felt like I was in a no win situation).

Needless to say, I had an absolutely horrible experience and I've never been back there since. I can't even order online as the girl does the online orders and has a month as wide as a double decker bus!
That’s a real shame and hugely unprofessional. What should be a great experience turns out not to be. How could she?
 
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I've had several instances of getting caught and exposed. My interests in diapers and being a baby again have been long deeply routed since childhood. My grandparents died weeks apart and my parents split at the same time, bad separation anxiety of not having my mom, and a half of my family that did anything and everything they could to make sure I felt unwelcome and unwanted.

My first time getting caught started with being caught trying to hide my nephew's diapers so I could take one home when I was 7 or 8. My sister confronted me about it and I can still to this day hear her saying to me "Do I need to tell dad to buy you diapers???" I was so scared about it that I chickened out and said no, when I should have said yes. I knew that she would have put me back in diapers and treated me like a baby thay I wanted so badly, but I also knew that it would come with the cost of deep shame, humiliation and embarrassment mainly from them, but I knew it would come from just about everyone...

A few years later my dad caught me with diapers when the grocery store up the street from is was selling the 2-pack samples of Depends diapers. I had bought a couple as the pack of the Luvs Walker 3's and the largest Pull-Ups were just a tad too small on me, and the Depends at the time we're actual smalls and had fit me really good. Well stupid me had left the receipt out and my dad found it... He asked me if I needed to see a doctor because I didn't feel secure enough at the time...

A few years later when I was 11 or 12 I was living in Florida with my mom, and my mom found the GoodNites I had in my room when she was changing my sheets one day. She was not having any of it at all, threw them.out and told me to stop. I had the rest of the time I was in Florida with her.

A few years later when I was 15 or 16, my nephew's grandmother had found my diaper and baby stash when she went up in the attic looking for something. My dad and I were staying with her at the time. She wound up digging into some of my dad's and my stuff when she found it, and she wound up bringing the whole box downstairs, laid everything out on the table, and made sure to make a spectacle of it and me when I came back in the house with my oldest nephew amd one of my friends at the time... this was not only the time I ever felt the most uncomfortable about it, but also when my other sister on this side of the family started going around telling everyone thay I was a pedophile. Nobody had the mental capacity or ability to talk to.me privately and ask what this whole thing with diapers and the baby stuff was all about, so they just did what was easiest and made claims that I was a pedophile like my dad was.

So a few years later when I was 23 or 24, I had spent a week in the hospital due to severe depression and having scared everybody in the house with something I said at the time... after years of the emotional abuse from what and who was supposed to be family - including my dad, I was at the point of going up one side and down the other without even blinking of anyone who even looked at me the wrong way... It was finally brought to my attention that the reason why my parents divorced and split up was because my dad had a thing for young girls and tried do some something inappropriate with my sister on my mom's side. My mom and dad used to work at the same place at the time, mom worked 2nd shift, dad worked 1st shift. My mom told me thay she was gonna shoot my dad in the face with the little 2-shot handgun he gave her thay day, but she didn't because of me...


2006 my dad died on my birthday while he was waiting for me to come out of my therapy appointment. But the freakish thing about it was that the week prior, my mom took me to my appointment and asked me while we were walking in "what would you do if I dropped dead right here on the spot?"... I know, right?? Like what a messed up thing to ask... then low and behold, my dad died in that very spot 1 week later...

In 2010, I moved 4 states away & disowned my dad's half of the family. The sister that started telling everyone I was a pedophile got told off in an email I replied to saying that what she did was unforgivable and unexcusable, that family doesn't destroy each other they way they did to me, and that she & everyone in that family was lucky that I didn't pursue felony defamation of character lawsuits and charges against them over what they did and said...
 
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I have never been outed in this particular community.

However I was outed by my consultant psychiatrist once as a cd, back in 2016, as he mentioned it in a summary letter which was sent to my GP and also found its way to the DWP in the UK.

I had no idea that the letter contained that info until I got a copy through once giving my diagnosis back in 2016. Luckily this info is kept confidential within both my GP surgery & DWP so I wasn't too bothered about it.

However it did concern me at the time as I wasn't expecting that particular bit of info to be included as it was unrelated to my diagnosis at the time. I guess they include everything in the letter/report that gets discussed in the session which has made me more wary and guarded about these things ever since.

Now I am more careful about what I disclose to so called professionals who are suppose to be conducting these sessions in confidence in case they share that info with any other professional body.

After all anyone could potentially breach that confidence and share it with anyone else who doesn't have the right to that info. Also hackers could potentially get hold of that info as well as you hear about major organisations being hacked and breaches of confidential info being leaked to the wider internet and the public.
 
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DLJosie said:
i wouldnt still be with her if she outed me like that sorry but only saying xxx
I know this discussion is very old news, but maybe he really loved her. True love forgives.
 
vp39 said:
My late wife, who was well aware of my love of wearing plastic but didn’t want anything to do with it herself, told her close friend (who I’ll call Lucy here) about it. Lucy and I were quite close too; she was sexy as hell and I had a major crush on her for years.

The way I found out about it: my wife and I were walking in the woods one day and got to talking about my fetish, and she said that Lucy had told her that if the were married to me she’d wear plastic for me. Well, I was surprised of course…I got to thinking about a time a few weeks before that when Lucy had stopped by to talk to my wife, who hadn’t been home. She left right away, and then I realized that when she gave me a goodbye hug she’d rubbed my butt a little bit with one hand. I’d been wearing plastic pants under my jeans, and after my wife’s admission I wondered if Lucy had been checking if I was wearing them.

But as far as I know neither Lucy or my wife ever told anyone else that I was a plastic lover.
I know this is old news, but I have to wonder if you and Lucy ever got together. It sounds like you'd both have really enjoyed that, and it might have been the silver lining in a cloud of loss, for which loss I'm very sorry.
 
TreeLad said:
Not outed as such but it was a close call. Luckily for me my wife knows everything about me. If she didn't then yes, I would have been outed there and then!

I live in the north of England and some years ago I found the incontinence shop / nappiesRus. Turns out it's only a 5 minute drive from where I live and I counted myself a lucky person to be able to literally nip out and get whatever I needed or wanted.

The incontinence shop was my go to place for everything until one particular day when I was in their showroom, a girl who is a friend of my sister in law was knocking on the window from the warehouse and waving at me. I had no idea she worked there!

It was one of them moments where you just want the ground to open up and swallow you, I've never been as anxious in all my life, my heart was pounding and I could feel myself getting hotter and more red faced!

Within minutes, my wife phoned me to say her sister had phoned her to say that her friend had seen me there and was wondering why I was there. This conversation happened in front of my mother in law and some other family members. Luckily she managed to explain it away.


What got to me most was that for a company who claims that they are discreet, I felt that my confidentiality had been breeched.

With hindsight I should have put a complaint in but at the time I really didn't want to draw any more attention to myself (I felt like I was in a no win situation).

Needless to say, I had an absolutely horrible experience and I've never been back there since. I can't even order online as the girl does the online orders and has a month as wide as a double decker bus!
Yeah that girl could get fired for that kind of thing as it is a breach of confidence. They aren't suppose to discuss things to anyone including friends and relatives especially if they actually know the person for this very reason.
 
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InvestigativePhilosopher said:
I know this is old news, but I have to wonder if you and Lucy ever got together. It sounds like you'd both have really enjoyed that, and it might have been the silver lining in a cloud of loss, for which loss I'm very sorry.
Oh, it was for the best actually that Lucy and I didn't get together...I could not have afforded her.
 
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vp39 said:
Oh, it was for the best actually that Lucy and I didn't get together...I could not have afforded her.
A woman of expensive taste, eh? Ah well. I hope you've found peace and happiness since your loss.
 
Actually there was an incident today even where my next door neighbour got outed for temporary incontinence as he unintentionally had an accident and messed up the ground floor near the main entrance of my block and nearly leading up to his front door. Another neighbour knocked on all the ground floor flats to make a complaint about it. My next door neighbour eventually apologised and cleared up his mess as he hadn't realised it was all around the main entrance. What made it worse for him was that there were contractors going in and out of the block as well who also commented on it. Most embarrassing.

However I didn't have much sympathy for him as he outed me earlier this year, about a completely different matter outside of my control, to all of my neighbours in my block. It involved a sewage pipe inside the walls between my flat and his which had come away completely and was dumping raw sewage onto the ground between the walls causing a nasty smell to waft into the stairwell of my block which he said was coming from my flat. Anyway he did so right in front of my dining room window so I could hear the entire conversation and other neighbours reactions of disgust blaming me for it.

I thought we were friends, as I explained the pipe issue to him previously, as we had plenty of good conversations together up to that point but not anymore. Now we just tolerate each other.

I know this isn't quite the same thing that this thread was meant for but I thought it was a strange coincidence.

Anyway he got a taste of his own medicine today. Karma is a bitch. lol.
 
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SissyABSamantha said:
Yeah that girl could get fired for that kind of thing as it is a breach of confidence. They aren't suppose to discuss things to anyone including friends and relatives especially if they actually know the person for this very reason.
With hindsight I really wish that I'd have escalated the situation but like I said, at the time, I didn't want to draw anymore unnecessary attention to myself. Now I couldn't care less which is why I kick myself now. I've actually heard her talking with others and laughing about the things that men come in to buy.

Somebody once said to me that everyone who works there is abdl aware. That might be the case but that doesn't mean that everyone gets it and won't have a laugh at someone else's expense.
 
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dogboy said:
I got outed in a way when my mom discovered my diapers and gay porn. She made an appointment for me at a big residential mental facility where I had to discuss my desire to wear diapers as well as being attracted to other males. I was both embarrassed and really nervous. This was back when they could put you into a mental facility against your will if you were gay. Fortunately I was able to convince my mom to cancel the appointments I had with my psychiatrist after several visits. My psychiatrist and I just argued with each other and it was going nowhere.

That must have been in the 18
 
TreeLad said:
With hindsight I really wish that I'd have escalated the situation but like I said, at the time, I didn't want to draw anymore unnecessary attention to myself. Now I couldn't care less which is why I kick myself now. I've actually heard her talking with others and laughing about the things that men come in to buy.

Somebody once said to me that everyone who works there is abdl aware. That might be the case but that doesn't mean that everyone gets it and won't have a laugh at someone else's expense.
Again her behaviour is unacceptable and should really get her fired. She needs to be put in her place, as she is clearly showing her immaturity. otherwise this could keep happening to others. This could become far more serious as well especially if someone else gets outed and self harms because of it.

Therefore I would escalate it to her line manager/boss and to make an official but anonymous complaint about her behaviour. She needs to be dealt with according to her companies policy on handling this type of official misconduct / complaint.
 
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I got outed in a way when my mom discovered my diapers and gay porn. She made an appointment for me at a big residential mental facility where I had to discuss my desire to wear diapers as well as being attracted to other males. I was both embarrassed and really nervous. This was back when they could put you into a mental facility against your will if you were gay. Fortunately I was able to convince my mom to cancel the appointments I had with my psychiatrist after several visits. My psychiatrist and I just argued with each other and it was going nowhere.

That must have been back in the 1960s or maybe early 1970s. I don't remember being gay was ever a reason to put someone in the mental hospital, since I was born (I was born in the mid 1970s), although certainly in the 1960s and 1950s and before, they did. Homosexuality was even illegal in England in the mid 1960s. Music producer Joe Meek, who produced "Telstar" by the Tornadoes (1962) and "Have I The Right?" by the Honeycombs (1964), was gay himself. This led him to be under threats of blackmail too. He committed suicide in February 1967.

I'm not gay; however, I do have Classic Autism and ADHD. And as far as I know, in the 1960s and 1950s, Autistic children like me were also institutionalized at the state hospital or developmental center. There's a high chance if I was born just 25 years before I was, I'd probably would have ended up there. Also those with Down Syndrome often ended up in developmental centers alongside the Autistics as well. The sad thing is that Autistic people were never truly accepted even up to the present day. Sure, things are better than in the 1960s, and most Autistic people (children and adults) ended up living at home with their parents, like me. Great that they no longer institutionalize Autistic people with the deinstitutionalization under reforms by Reagan, but it also left a few Autistic people homeless. And the thing is, Autistic people are still scorned and mistreated by society. Even Down Syndrome people are treated better. I wish I had Down Syndrome (or even more so, proportionate pituitary dwarfism, so then at least I'd look like a 4 year old). The problem is most Autistic people are so harassed in society and bullied so much that most of them end up being introverted and end up spending most of their times indoors inside their homes. So instead of rotting away at the state hospital, Autistic people now rot away inside their parents' home? That's not that much better, to be honest. In one way, I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I do have some friends and that I do get seen in the public. But that is also because my children's librarian friend at my local library wanted me to help her as an assistant volunteer co-host at Preschooler Storytime for 3 to 5 year olds. Some librarians didn't even like me that much in spite the nearly 2 decades that I worked with the preschoolers. I go to my local community college as well every week. I did have some old college instructor friends there, but after COVID 19 happened, most instructors and professors bailed out....they got a good retirement package early and then retired. So I don't have a lot of friends there anymore. And my librarian friend retired and Preschooler Storytime was permanently cancelled. They brought back Baby Storytime and Toddler Storytime, but not Preschooler Storytime. Also, Toddler Storytime is now for 1 to 2 year olds. It used to be for 2 to 3 year olds. I never go to my old library anymore. Most of my child friends are now teens, or even in some cases, adults at this point, after these long 4 COVID years. Most Autistic people are introverted though, and stay at home like a hermit because they get harassed and bullied on the outside. I am planning to move to the Deep South (maybe anywhere from Alabama to the Carolinas) where I have some sweet friends. I'm not going to stay in the Western USA. I have hardly any friends anymore around me.

I suppose things could be even worse for Autistics back in the 1930s and 1940s in Germany. Autistics we're probably sent to concentration camps and gasses and perished in Germany, during World War 2, thanks to Adolf.

I wish I could go back to being 3 years old again physically because I really do act like a 3 or 4 year old, at least emotionally and socially. You don't need to be very old to realize that I am developmentally disabled to the point of being like a child. Even most nonautistic actual 3- and 4- year olds realize this. I think most young children realize that I don't act like an adult and don't perceive me as such as all. I think some adults don't even perceive me as an adult. Of course, infantilization and overprotectiveness out of concern is much better than being bullied. A lot of parents of even young children who are friends are protective of me, out of being concerned. In contrast, when I lived in state university in a residence apartment on campus, at age 22-24 chronologically, I was bullied incredibly. Like, 96% of students in the residence apartment dorms thought I was retarded. The verbal insults were amazing. I had a friend with hydrocephalus who was normal (not learning or developmentally disabled) who kept being asked by others if I was retarded. He got so sick of answering that question, he started telling them "Why don't you ask him yourself"?

The only people who were ever truly understanding of me or accepting of me were toddlers and preschoolers. When I was in Catholic school in 7th and 8th grade, even 3rd and 4th graders laughed at me doing the weather on the PA system. I thought my younger nonautistic brother (who was in that grade level) was embarrassed of me; actually, he told me years later, he wanted to beat at the daylights out of them. At least the high school kids respected me when I did the weather in high school. I was one of the most beloved students in 12th grade, although I didn't have nowhere near the highest grades or perhaps not even close to having the best behavior.

I seriously wonder if those 4th graders also laughed and mocked the weatherman or meteorologist on the local nightly news when he gave weather predictions. Good grief.🤦🤦🤷 I even said that to my brother yesterday eating lunch with my parents and his wife and kids (my nephews) at their house. What torture the TV meteorologist at night must have gone through.

Again, the only age group that never bullied me were toddlers and preschoolers. Maybe elderly people are more understanding of me too. But college students, definitely not. Not even older elementary school kids.

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longallsboy said:
Most Autistic people are introverted though, and stay at home like a hermit because they get harassed and bullied on the outside.

longallsboy said:
Of course, infantilization and overprotectiveness out of concern is much better than being bullied. A lot of parents of even young children who are friends are protective of me, out of being concerned. In contrast, when I lived in state university in a residence apartment on campus, at age 22-24 chronologically, I was bullied incredibly. Like, 96% of students in the residence apartment dorms thought I was retarded. The verbal insults were amazing.

Maybe elderly people are more understanding of me too. But college students, definitely not. Not even older elementary school kids.

- longallsboy
I'm sorry about your experiences. I too was severely bullied in my school years especially in my secondary school which was absolute hell. It had a devastating effect on my psyche which started showing itself in my late teens. This was back in the 1970's but mainly in the early 1980's when the bullying occurred and before the children's act came into force in the UK which started to address bullying issues in schools.

I ended up with several mental disorders which still affect me today some 40 years later although not quite as badly. I have come a long way since my late teens. However I too live like a hermit most of the time, but mainly due to my medical issues and unemployment, as my flat is my sanctuary where I can truly relax and de-stress from the cruel harsh world outside. Although I do have a limited social life through my chess club and I have made a lot of good friends through my hobby who have been with me for 30+ years. I did improve a lot in my 30's but i'm still not all the way there to being free of my damaged psyche but I'm still working on it and will probably continue to do so until the day I leave this mortal realm.

These disorders turned me into a loner and very introverted most of my life which is the main reason why I never married or had a family of my own. This is also why I mainly went to Professionals to explore my kinks/sexuality etc as I couldn't form 'normal' intimate relationships through normal socialising. I'm much better nowadays but still have some of these behaviours to some extent.

Unfortunately kids, teenagers and even college students can be very cruel and evil and quite often don't care about the damage they are doing to their victims which is why there are a lot of laws and regulations nowadays etc that try to deal with this devastating behaviour in youngsters. People in general are more mature about this kind of thing as they get older and don't tend to behave this badly except perhaps online and sometimes in the workplace as well. Older adults know the damage that bullying can do to people and tend to not behave this way at all but even then some evil ones will still do it deliberately because of the harm they know it can do to their victims.
 
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longallsboy said:
That must have been back in the 1960s or maybe early 1970s. I don't remember being gay was ever a reason to put someone in the mental hospital, since I was born (I was born in the mid 1970s), although certainly in the 1960s and 1950s and before, they did. Homosexuality was even illegal in England in the mid 1960s. Music producer Joe Meek, who produced "Telstar" by the Tornadoes (1962) and "Have I The Right?" by the Honeycombs (1964), was gay himself. This led him to be under threats of blackmail too. He committed suicide in February 1967.

I'm not gay; however, I do have Classic Autism and ADHD. And as far as I know, in the 1960s and 1950s, Autistic children like me were also institutionalized at the state hospital or developmental center. There's a high chance if I was born just 25 years before I was, I'd probably would have ended up there. Also those with Down Syndrome often ended up in developmental centers alongside the Autistics as well. The sad thing is that Autistic people were never truly accepted even up to the present day. Sure, things are better than in the 1960s, and most Autistic people (children and adults) ended up living at home with their parents, like me. Great that they no longer institutionalize Autistic people with the deinstitutionalization under reforms by Reagan, but it also left a few Autistic people homeless. And the thing is, Autistic people are still scorned and mistreated by society. Even Down Syndrome people are treated better. I wish I had Down Syndrome (or even more so, proportionate pituitary dwarfism, so then at least I'd look like a 4 year old). The problem is most Autistic people are so harassed in society and bullied so much that most of them end up being introverted and end up spending most of their times indoors inside their homes. So instead of rotting away at the state hospital, Autistic people now rot away inside their parents' home? That's not that much better, to be honest. In one way, I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I do have some friends and that I do get seen in the public. But that is also because my children's librarian friend at my local library wanted me to help her as an assistant volunteer co-host at Preschooler Storytime for 3 to 5 year olds. Some librarians didn't even like me that much in spite the nearly 2 decades that I worked with the preschoolers. I go to my local community college as well every week. I did have some old college instructor friends there, but after COVID 19 happened, most instructors and professors bailed out....they got a good retirement package early and then retired. So I don't have a lot of friends there anymore. And my librarian friend retired and Preschooler Storytime was permanently cancelled. They brought back Baby Storytime and Toddler Storytime, but not Preschooler Storytime. Also, Toddler Storytime is now for 1 to 2 year olds. It used to be for 2 to 3 year olds. I never go to my old library anymore. Most of my child friends are now teens, or even in some cases, adults at this point, after these long 4 COVID years. Most Autistic people are introverted though, and stay at home like a hermit because they get harassed and bullied on the outside. I am planning to move to the Deep South (maybe anywhere from Alabama to the Carolinas) where I have some sweet friends. I'm not going to stay in the Western USA. I have hardly any friends anymore around me.

I suppose things could be even worse for Autistics back in the 1930s and 1940s in Germany. Autistics we're probably sent to concentration camps and gasses and perished in Germany, during World War 2, thanks to Adolf.

I wish I could go back to being 3 years old again physically because I really do act like a 3 or 4 year old, at least emotionally and socially. You don't need to be very old to realize that I am developmentally disabled to the point of being like a child. Even most nonautistic actual 3- and 4- year olds realize this. I think most young children realize that I don't act like an adult and don't perceive me as such as all. I think some adults don't even perceive me as an adult. Of course, infantilization and overprotectiveness out of concern is much better than being bullied. A lot of parents of even young children who are friends are protective of me, out of being concerned. In contrast, when I lived in state university in a residence apartment on campus, at age 22-24 chronologically, I was bullied incredibly. Like, 96% of students in the residence apartment dorms thought I was retarded. The verbal insults were amazing. I had a friend with hydrocephalus who was normal (not learning or developmentally disabled) who kept being asked by others if I was retarded. He got so sick of answering that question, he started telling them "Why don't you ask him yourself"?

The only people who were ever truly understanding of me or accepting of me were toddlers and preschoolers. When I was in Catholic school in 7th and 8th grade, even 3rd and 4th graders laughed at me doing the weather on the PA system. I thought my younger nonautistic brother (who was in that grade level) was embarrassed of me; actually, he told me years later, he wanted to beat at the daylights out of them. At least the high school kids respected me when I did the weather in high school. I was one of the most beloved students in 12th grade, although I didn't have nowhere near the highest grades or perhaps not even close to having the best behavior.

I seriously wonder if those 4th graders also laughed and mocked the weatherman or meteorologist on the local nightly news when he gave weather predictions. Good grief.🤦🤦🤷 I even said that to my brother yesterday eating lunch with my parents and his wife and kids (my nephews) at their house. What torture the TV meteorologist at night must have gone through.

Again, the only age group that never bullied me were toddlers and preschoolers. Maybe elderly people are more understanding of me too. But college students, definitely not. Not even older elementary school kids.

- longallsboy
SissyABSamantha said:
I'm sorry about your experiences. I too was severely bullied in my school years especially in my secondary school which was absolute hell. It had a devastating effect on my psyche which started showing itself in my late teens. This was back in the 1970's but mainly in the early 1980's when the bullying occurred and before the children's act came into force in the UK which started to address bullying issues in schools.

I ended up with several mental disorders which still affect me today some 40 years later although not quite as badly. I have come a long way since my late teens. However I too live like a hermit most of the time, but mainly due to my medical issues and unemployment, as my flat is my sanctuary where I can truly relax and de-stress from the cruel harsh world outside. Although I do have a limited social life through my chess club and I have made a lot of good friends through my hobby who have been with me for 30+ years. I did improve a lot in my 30's but i'm still not all the way there to being free of my damaged psyche but I'm still working on it and will probably continue to do so until the day I leave this mortal realm.

These disorders turned me into a loner and very introverted most of my life which is the main reason why I never married or had a family of my own. This is also why I mainly went to Professionals to explore my kinks/sexuality etc as I couldn't form 'normal' intimate relationships through normal socialising. I'm much better nowadays but still have some of these behaviours to some extent.

Unfortunately kids, teenagers and even college students can be very cruel and evil and quite often don't care about the damage they are doing to their victims which is why there are a lot of laws and regulations nowadays etc that try to deal with this devastating behaviour in youngsters. People in general are more mature about this kind of thing as they get older and don't tend to behave this badly except perhaps online and sometimes in the workplace as well. Older adults know the damage that bullying can do to people and tend to not behave this way at all but even then some evil ones will still do it deliberately because of the harm they know it can do to their victims.
I have such tremendous sympathy for you two, and others with similar experiences. Young people are so senselessly cruel. You are OBVIOUSLY highly intelligent people. You express yourselves in writing better than the vast majority of people. I am so sorry that you had these experiences.

I'm reminded of the line from a song: "We don't like what we don't understand, in fact it frightens us...." and that's from "Kill the Beast." Young people often have the Gaston response to things that make them uncomfortable; let's destroy it. As killing bodies has immediate and well-understood repercussions, they usually resort to more subtle and devious methods of destruction, but those methods often destroy lives as surely as lethal force, and with greater suffering. I'm glad efforts are being made to address the problem, but the sad reality is that unless or until young people are taught to honor and value their fellow man as something inherently valuable, not merely as a tool to use for their own enjoyment, the problem will remain, and, I fear, worsen. It is a heart problem.
 
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I have such tremendous sympathy for you two, and others with similar experiences. Young people are so senselessly cruel. You are OBVIOUSLY highly intelligent people. You express yourselves in writing better than the vast majority of people. I am so sorry that you had these experiences.

I'm reminded of the line from a song: "We don't like what we don't understand, in fact it frightens us...." and that's from "Kill the Beast." Young people often have the Gaston response to things that make them uncomfortable; let's destroy it. As killing bodies has immediate and well-understood repercussions, they usually resort to more subtle and devious methods of destruction, but those methods often destroy lives as surely as lethal force, and with greater suffering. I'm glad efforts are being made to address the problem, but the sad reality is that unless or until young people are taught to honor and value their fellow man as something inherently valuable, not merely as a tool to use for their own enjoyment, the problem will remain, and, I fear, worsen. It is a heart problem.
Thank you for this. It is much appreciated.

Sadly this behaviour isn't being addressed properly in schools even in this day and age as the discipline system is too lenient on the worst offenders. Perhaps there isn't any sure fire way of dealing with them that is permitted within the law in schools and colleges. Sadly kids don't always have a sense of empathy or compassion for others as this is usually taught by their parents and other responsible adults around them and through learned experiences. However bullies don't often have this teaching from the adults around them who are often just as bad themselves if not worse.

Even back in the old days when corporal punishment was in use in schools it still didn't really help this type of bullying mentality in kids etc. In fact they saw it as a badge of honour in their own twisted minds and actually even enjoyed it to some extent. It had no effect on them just as torture of any kind has always proven ineffective through the centuries in stopping offending behaviour altogether which is the reason we have our current justice system of imprisonment instead of capital punishment involving executions mostly.

Unfortunately even prisons don't really help that much as the concentration of evil just makes most people worse not better. In some cases some are 'rehabilitated' and never offend again but this is usually because they couldn't cope in jail and were traumatised by their experiences. Therefore they would never want to return to that hell ever again.

Sadly I don't think evil will ever be defeated or removed completely from society but who knows it might one day if it doesn't destroy everything and everyone first.
 
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I have such tremendous sympathy for you two, and others with similar experiences. Young people are so senselessly cruel. You are OBVIOUSLY highly intelligent people. You express yourselves in writing better than the vast majority of people. I am so sorry that you had these experiences.

I'm reminded of the line from a song: "We don't like what we don't understand, in fact it frightens us...." and that's from "Kill the Beast." Young people often have the Gaston response to things that make them uncomfortable; let's destroy it. As killing bodies has immediate and well-understood repercussions, they usually resort to more subtle and devious methods of destruction, but those methods often destroy lives as surely as lethal force, and with greater suffering. I'm glad efforts are being made to address the problem, but the sad reality is that unless or until young people are taught to honor and value their fellow man as something inherently valuable, not merely as a tool to use for their own enjoyment, the problem will remain, and, I fear, worsen. It is a heart problem.

I love the movie "Beauty And The Beast". Always did. I was 16 when the movie came out. And the entire idea of "Kill The Beast" is the irony of the entire movie. In the end, it turns out that one who truly is the Beast is the arrogant pompous Gaston himself, not the actual Beast. After all, Gaston came to the castle with the intention of killing the Beast. After spending quite a bit of time with the Beast, Belle does see that the Beast is actually a tender and caring being. (The beginning of the movie where the enchantress [the witch in disguise] turned the Prince into a Beast never sat well with me. Come on, how many 11 year old princes or even normal 11 year olds would agree to let a homeless stranger spend the night??). And yes, people are always afraid of what they don't understand. Down Syndrome has been around quite a while longer than Autism, Autism is a relatively new thing in even the educational world (few teachers even knew what Autism was before the late 1990s). There are still, to this day, ignorant people who don't know what Autism even is. And also with Down Syndrome, they have the social skills that Autistic people frequently do not have, so that also wins more tolerance from society. You will be treated better if you have certain social skills. And also, Down Syndrome people are often "cute" and have an endearing personality. Most people with Autism that are adults aren't really "cute", unless they happen to be very small in stature, which is very unusual among Autistics. And being tall and acting like a child, even if you can't help yourself, annoys other people.

But in general, people don't like what they don't understand. Anything that is new is sneered at too. The Wright Brothers, Orville and Wilbur, were laughed at from coast to coast after they flew their first airplane. I wonder how many of those naysayers, and people who laughed at the Wright Brothers, later used the airplane the Wrights had created. It is also possible that The Wright Brothers may have had Autism Spectrum Disorder. It's likely that Albert Einstein was Autistic too, and he was called retarded by his parents, his teachers, and other students. Yet, he was one of the smartest people to ever walk the face of Earth.

I seriously have to wonder if some people with Autism are "adult babies" because they ended up regressing when they kept being bullied again and again. People poke the bear and then wonder why the bear hates them..... unreal.

As for Disney, some of their movies were very dark, like Pinocchio, but really don't make a truly valid point. When the little boys get turned into donkeys on Pleasure Island as a "punishment" for having fun on Pleasure Island and not going to school, it's clear the moral lesson is "If you don't go to school, play hooky, and don't study hard, you will end up being a donkey breaking your back doing hard work for your employer". This is only partly true though, because even if you do go to school, and study hard, and go to university, and graduate, you STILL end up like a donkey breaking your back working for your employer. You might get paid a bit more if you have a college education, but the fact IS that you are still being worked like a donkey, whether your employer is the federal government, state government, the university system (if you are a professor), or some high tech company. The moral ought to be "have fun in your childhood, don't obey your parents all the time, and play, because you won't be ever able to do that again".... 😁🤦 The poor little boys at Pleasure Island just wanted to have a little fun in their life. Is drinking root beer and playing pool really so bad? Or throwing things at a destruction derby? Or playing in an amusement park. I don't think any of them truly wanted to go away permanently away from their parents. The Coachman is a horribly evil person. Adorable Alexander, partly turned into a boy-donkey mix, who is really actually a good kid, pitifully cries that "I wanna go home to my Momma!". And the Coachman throws him headfirst into a wall saying "Take him back! He can still talk!". The Coachman should have been thrown in jail. By the way .... I don't know if you know this, but 14 year old Dickie Jones, did Pinocchio's voice in the movie, in 1940 - but he also did Alexander's voice!

Speaking of Pleasure Island, I must say that Pigeon Forge, Tennessee and the beloved amusement park there, Dollywood, totally reminds me of Pleasure Island from Pinocchio. Apparently searching on the internet, I am not the only person who thinks Pigeon Forge is like Pleasure Island. Good clean fun. Kiddie Las Vegas without alcohol, gambling, etc. Just driving past Pigeon Forge, you can see this reflected in the candy stores, the amusement rides on the Parkway (we're not even talking about the rides at Dollywood), the comedy clubs, the restaurants, and many other things. I'm slightly surprised that no little boys get turned into donkeys at Pigeon Forge... LOL. I wish I lived close to Pigeon Forge. I've been there once in 2016 while on vacation with my parents, but I live in the Western USA, so it's quite a distance to go to, although maybe not so much if I move to the Deep South.

- longallsboy
 
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That must have been in the 18

LOL, that was a mistake! Haha

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UrgentWees said:
My psychologist mentioned my bed wetting and incontinence issues in the history section of a report that she wrote for an unrelated diagnosis. I didn’t read the report fully and gave consent for it to be sent to my new GP (who I was yet to disclose to) and the student support team at my university. This made for an awkward conversation with my GP at my next visit and a slightly less awkward conversation with an academic advisor about adding bathroom breaks during exams into my access plan. Overall, this was a net positive experience as it meant that I received better healthcare and accommodations but was very embarrassing at the time as it happened back when I felt a lot more ashamed about these issues.
Glad that the outcome was a positive one but for sure and awkward situation.
 
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