Replacement for Tena Slip Maxi (in USA), Betterdry Day? NS AirPremium?

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I'm trying to figure out a replacement for the Tena Slip Maxi in the USA. It looks like all sources to buy this diaper have dried up across USA and Canada.
I loved how thin the Tena Slip Maxi was, how well it fit, how good it's odor control was, it was so comfortable when wet and dry. I'm mourning a bit :cry:

I guess its time to find a replacement and I need some help. Primarily, I'd say that thinness, odor control, and comfort are the most important. It would be awesome if it had Velcro tabs too.

After some thinking and a bit of looking around, I decided to get a bag of Betterdry Day and Northshore AirPremium to try out.
What do you all think about some good replacements that do what the Tena Slip Maxi was great at? How about the two I picked to try out, how would you say they are?
 
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I have a feeling they'll be back, eventually. The major issue right now is the massive shortage of shipping containers...you had 18+ months of everything shut down, to the point ships were losing hundreds of thousands of dollars/day because they couldn't get into port...LA had a backlog of days of ships WAITING to be off-loaded/reloaded.
A LOT of those shipping containers are still stuffed to the gills with whatever happened to be shipped in them and I guarantee that a bunch of those "cans" are considered "lost" even though they are in fact sitting somewhere on a dock. I heard that one used to be able to order an empty shipping container and generally have it in a day or so....now it can take weeks just to get ONE empty container. This is affecting ALL countries and ALL ports. There's literally trains, miles long loaded to the gills with container cars stacked to the max without a destination, with cargo that no one seems to know who owns, where it's supposed to go, who's merchandise is inside of it etc. Total logistics failure with the world shut down for Covid for over a full year! I've heard estimates from industry insiders that they NEED MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of empty containers. These containers physically exist, but have been misplaced, mislogged or not logged into a computer and it might take 2-5 years before this industry gets back to the efficiency it was working at pre 2020.
The ports were severely overloaded, workers that continued to show up were only a percentage of a full shift workforce, ships sailed to alternate ports in the hopes of being able to get unloaded/loaded quicker than they could have say, in LA. This is a complete and total global breakdown. Add n Russia waging war, China rattling sabers insisting they're going to take Taiwan and this might actually get worse. The biggest issue with China is the same issue Russia is facing right now....they very well might be able to take over the territory, but they "can't" have it as the only way they can take it over is to completely and utterly destroy it. The instant Taiwan gets invaded by China OR Russia expands their war into Moldova, Poland etc. forget it, shipping containers will be dumped of their contents and either instantly confiscated by the military for military use only and without a doubt many of them will be deemed to be SCRAP to be melted down for armaments. I don't believe people are taking this issue as serious as it really is as the likelihood of WWIII having ALREADY begun is actually better than a 50/50 proposition. People also fail to realize that this isn't something that's just beginning, it began to ramp up in earnest in 2017. You do the math.
I'd seriously buy what you can now because IF war breaks out in the S China sea, 95% of the ABDL diapers will be gone in an instant and there won't be any replacements until long after the war ends, the countries can rebuild their infrastructure, skilled employees are trained and taught how to do a totally different job than what they ever intended on doing for a living.....It's going to be horrific if this does in fact occur.

The above is an "educated" opinion who has friends in industry, friends in the military (several who are now high ranking individuals) and is a veteran himself. I do indeed hope I'm wrong and diplomacy either stalls the march to war or prevents it by some small miracle. I ask one favor... PLEASE do NOT make this political!!! I hate politics in general and especially hate the vile divisive opinions that have permeated American society in the past few years. I have friends on the right and left (I'm financially conservative yet socially liberal and have voted for both major party candidates as well as many independents) and when I hear my right wing friends make statements that "this country NEEDS a civil war" I snap and flip on them as they obviously fail to realize the disaster that would occur, the fact they'd be fighting their brothers, sons/daughters, some of their best friends and NO ONE wins, except the money men who produce the armaments AND finance all of the deals.....and you can GUARANTEE that NONE OF THEM will ever be involved in the fighting.

My apologies for this response kind of going off track...I've bee in indescribable pain for over a week, am sleep deprived and got into a heated argument over this exact subject tonight with one of my lifelong best friends as he sincerely feels a civil war in the US will somehow "magically" solve all problems AND make the country think like he does. The shame of this is that he too is a combat veteran though he didn't see any major action but was there and saw people die (Marines who died when a Scud missile hit their barracks in the 1st Gulf War)........ The truth is that all of these issues are intrinsically connected and directly related. What happens next is al dependent on our leaders (like them or not) being able to navigate these stormy seas without resorting to war although IF China OR Russia does the unthinkable, our hands will be tied and there will be but one possible response.

I pray what I wrote turns out to be way off base.
 
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^ Well sure enough that wasn't the type of reply I was expecting but it is a well thought out insight into the current state of worldly affairs. I'm not going to add anything to that discussion since I'd really like to stay on topic though. Wishing your pain subsides soon and you can get some good sleep in.
 
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I am sorry for that....my main point is that I believe the Tena ACtive Fit slip maxi WILL return again, just not anytime soon. Unless Tena suddenly dropped them from their line up, I can't see them not returning.

Again, I am sorry. I tend to lose myself in writing once an idea enters my mind, especially when badly sleep deprived and in indescribable pain. I'm truly ready to SNAP! I've been on OxyContin & Hydromorphone for nearly 20 years, with never a single negative, never ran out early, never any issues with urine or blood tests but thanks to the political "OPIATE CRUSADERS" Dr's are being pressured to no end to get everyone off of these pain meds, regardless of how well they've worked (prior to the addition of OxyContin & Dilaudid (oral on both) I went from spending roughly 150-160+ days/hospitalized per year to less than 20.

They're now trying me on Methadone......I had hopes it would work but 9 days in and I'm miserable, can't sleep and it's not doing much, if anything for my pain. THANK GOD they allowed me to continue to take the Dilaudid (only medication that remotely phases my indescribable, non retractable headaches. I've seen the BEST headache specialists in the US including spending 45 days total hospitalized @ Jefferson Headache Ctr and even they have no clue WTF the cause is or how to treat them. To date I have failed close to 200 various headache, migraine meds, psychotropics, and pretty much every single medication once or twice used to treat non retractable headaches on someone somewhere. OxyContin will not remotely phase my headache either but it has been doing a fantastic job with my indescribable lower spinal pain. I have significant lower spinal destruction from L2-L5/S1 (the damage is likely responsible for my urinary IC issues due to substantial nerve damage. I have such arthritic destruction in my lower spine that the holes that are naturally in ones' Coccyx do not exist on my Coccyx, they're calcified over which requires 4 minor surgeries per year (2 Radio Frequency Ablations & 2 Epidural steroid injections into the Coccyx joints...normally they can go through the holes in the Coccyx but due to mine being one solid, fused bone I had to find a dedicated, world class pain management physician who is the first and ONLY Dr willing to take this on in all of my years and I've been hospitalized in such renowned hospitals such as University of Penn, Jefferson & Jefferson headache Center (truly WORLD CLASS even though they can come up with no cause or solution) , Hershey Medical Ctr, Johns Hopkins (by far the MOST OVER RATED place I've ever been with a gaping asshole of a Dr who was disciplined after seeing me, they offered to fly me down (I had to drive just shy of 300 miles to see that gaping asshole and was supposed to be admitted, because my medical records never came through he took it out on me, broke my balls claiming I was doing a bad acting job of not being able to stand unassisted, broke my balls about needing to wear diapers & generally treated me like shit to the point I had him by the throat. I got home over 5 hours later to a message to call them, they offered to fly me down, all expenses paid etc but I was in agony (wound up hospitalized locally that evening) and I never went back all due to a GAPING asshole who had a bad day but took it out on me including berating me for every litle thing he could imagine. I was proud that I have such fantastic hand strength that his throat was black & blue from me squeezing it for all I had with the one free hand I had! I was informed days later he was no longer employed there! I have also been to 3 high quality local hospitals, UPMC and one of the bigger hospitals near NYC but I was out of it and can not remember much of that entire 10 days stay....but they came up empty as well.

To be forced off of pain meds that have worked as well as pain meds can for well over 17 years all because politicians are pressuring Dr's to get everyone off of OxyContin etc (even though my Dr agrees with me as what I've been on has been consistent and stable for years, he would not change but the VA bosses are forcing his hand. I did get in writing that IF the Methadone fails (they have a month, I'm 10 or 11 days in, can't honestly recall right now) that they will resume prescribing the OxyContin & Hydromorphone/oral Dilaudid although I am still on the oral Dilaudid as nothing else will remotely phase my indescribable, non retractable 24/7/365 x 20 year old headache. These meds brought me from averaging over 150 days hospitalized per year to under 20! I know I have to endure this but it doesn't make it any easier at all.....can't sleep, can't stand, can hardly walk with a cane and had to use my walker today for the 1st time in 18 mos (last time I had a badly herniated disc) and even sitting is excruciating.

What sets me off is that the only reasons I have to endure this nightmare is because politicians all of a sudden "care" because it's no longer just low income drug users dying from ODs but wealthy white kids. The part that sucks C**K (and certainly not mine!) is the fact that 99.9% of these junkies did not get their start from a legitimate prescription and they are not dying from prescription medications. They're dying because Cartels flooded the country with Fentanyl and Cara fentanyl..with the last one a single spec of that stuff is a lethal dose!

So now all chronic pain patients are in a world of hurt. My non VA PCP also does drug counseling 3 nights/week....he's had several dozen SENIOR CITIZENS who were forced off of the pain meds they'd been on for decades (worst is a Vietnam Vet who lost one leg, one full arm, half his other arm, an eye, a kidney etc in a booby trap with grenades who had been on morphine since the late 60's was forced off of all opiates and discovered heroin and self medicating!!! He has 4 seniors who got into METH!!!! Not one ever had a single issue with prescription Opiates but now 2 are dead and he has over a dozen seniors in his drug counseling program!!!

All because politicians get free air time on the news, radio and newspaper by campaigning against the EVIL opiate pain meds!!! The fact that they're actually BEING ALLOWED to play Dr (without a single hour of actual medical training....all of my Dr's are IRATE when they have to listen to these cocksuckers!) and apply ungodly pressure to the bosses at the VA to MAKE every Dr force their chronic pain patients off of opiates....yet the substitute, Methadone is a god damn OPIATE!!! Better yet, the instant a Dr in an ER who doesn't know me sees Methadone on my prescription list and I'll bet $10000 with 10:1 odds the FIRST thought they'll have is that I'm an addict in recovery as Methadone is the main drug used to trat Heroin addicts!!!! Honestly, I wouldn't give a shit IF it worked.....but since I began I have not been able to sleep more than 30-45 minutes at a clip. I'm BEYOND exhausted!!!! IF I didn't still have the Hydromorphone I honestly would consider "saying goodbye". It's THAT BAD!

I apologize. I know this is not the forum nor the crowd to bitch too....but I just feel I need to be heard! I'm also hoping someone reads this and has experience with this and maybe has some advice for me. I honestly have no idea how in hell I'm going to make it another almost 3 weeks before they'll represcribe me what I'd been on since at least late 2006/early 2007!!!

I do thank you for listening/reading and responding though. I'm kind of grasping at straws right now!!!

Have a good night. Sorry for being a downer.
 
Tena super and tena ultra are good substitutes
 
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Magicalgirl101 said:
Tena super and tena ultra are good substitutes
Tenas I’m the USA don’t even have standing leak guards. They’re disqualified.
 
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I thought the Tena Slip Maxi's were discontinued several years ago?

Have they been available again? What is going on? lol
 
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diapeybabybrian said:
I thought the Tena Slip Maxi's were discontinued several years ago?

Have they been available again? What is going on? lol
They’ve been unavailable in the USA through Tena vendors but were manually imported and resold by a small handful of companies. The Canadian stock was the last one to dry up.
 
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I'm so glad in Europe Tena Slips are easy to get. My fav nappy. Made in Sweden.

Betterdry made in Germany,

Europe has the best IC nappies.
 
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I have a feeling they'll be back, eventually. The major issue right now is the massive shortage of shipping containers...you had 18+ months of everything shut down, to the point ships were losing hundreds of thousands of dollars/day because they couldn't get into port...LA had a backlog of days of ships WAITING to be off-loaded/reloaded.
A LOT of those shipping containers are still stuffed to the gills with whatever happened to be shipped in them and I guarantee that a bunch of those "cans" are considered "lost" even though they are in fact sitting somewhere on a dock. I heard that one used to be able to order an empty shipping container and generally have it in a day or so....now it can take weeks just to get ONE empty container. This is affecting ALL countries and ALL ports. There's literally trains, miles long loaded to the gills with container cars stacked to the max without a destination, with cargo that no one seems to know who owns, where it's supposed to go, who's merchandise is inside of it etc. Total logistics failure with the world shut down for Covid for over a full year! I've heard estimates from industry insiders that they NEED MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of empty containers. These containers physically exist, but have been misplaced, mislogged or not logged into a computer and it might take 2-5 years before this industry gets back to the efficiency it was working at pre 2020.
The ports were severely overloaded, workers that continued to show up were only a percentage of a full shift workforce, ships sailed to alternate ports in the hopes of being able to get unloaded/loaded quicker than they could have say, in LA. This is a complete and total global breakdown. Add n Russia waging war, China rattling sabers insisting they're going to take Taiwan and this might actually get worse. The biggest issue with China is the same issue Russia is facing right now....they very well might be able to take over the territory, but they "can't" have it as the only way they can take it over is to completely and utterly destroy it. The instant Taiwan gets invaded by China OR Russia expands their war into Moldova, Poland etc. forget it, shipping containers will be dumped of their contents and either instantly confiscated by the military for military use only and without a doubt many of them will be deemed to be SCRAP to be melted down for armaments. I don't believe people are taking this issue as serious as it really is as the likelihood of WWIII having ALREADY begun is actually better than a 50/50 proposition. People also fail to realize that this isn't something that's just beginning, it began to ramp up in earnest in 2017. You do the math.
I'd seriously buy what you can now because IF war breaks out in the S China sea, 95% of the ABDL diapers will be gone in an instant and there won't be any replacements until long after the war ends, the countries can rebuild their infrastructure, skilled employees are trained and taught how to do a totally different job than what they ever intended on doing for a living.....It's going to be horrific if this does in fact occur.

The above is an "educated" opinion who has friends in industry, friends in the military (several who are now high ranking individuals) and is a veteran himself. I do indeed hope I'm wrong and diplomacy either stalls the march to war or prevents it by some small miracle. I ask one favor... PLEASE do NOT make this political!!! I hate politics in general and especially hate the vile divisive opinions that have permeated American society in the past few years. I have friends on the right and left (I'm financially conservative yet socially liberal and have voted for both major party candidates as well as many independents) and when I hear my right wing friends make statements that "this country NEEDS a civil war" I snap and flip on them as they obviously fail to realize the disaster that would occur, the fact they'd be fighting their brothers, sons/daughters, some of their best friends and NO ONE wins, except the money men who produce the armaments AND finance all of the deals.....and you can GUARANTEE that NONE OF THEM will ever be involved in the fighting.

My apologies for this response kind of going off track...I've bee in indescribable pain for over a week, am sleep deprived and got into a heated argument over this exact subject tonight with one of my lifelong best friends as he sincerely feels a civil war in the US will somehow "magically" solve all problems AND make the country think like he does. The shame of this is that he too is a combat veteran though he didn't see any major action but was there and saw people die (Marines who died when a Scud missile hit their barracks in the 1st Gulf War)........ The truth is that all of these issues are intrinsically connected and directly related. What happens next is al dependent on our leaders (like them or not) being able to navigate these stormy seas without resorting to war although IF China OR Russia does the unthinkable, our hands will be tied and there will be but one possible response.

I pray what I wrote turns out to be way off base.
All we can do is hope cooler heads prevail. I dont talk about it on here much, but I've been preparing for the worst as best I can. Hate to derail anything discussed here, so I'll leave it at that.

LePew, the airpremiums are decent but unfortunately they rely on adhesive to stay in place and I've told NS before that it would be a far better choice if they used a hook n loop system. Because those diapers tend to loosen over time if you wear them. I hope you find a worthwhile alternative. I really miss the old slip maxi myself, hopefully they return to market in the future. But the future definitely isn't looking the brightest, but again hopefully cooler heads prevail.
 
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When I lived in the UK, I wore Tena Slip Maxi almost exclusively. I really missed them when I returned to the States.

I have to say: BetterDry Day is the closest thing I've found to the Tena product. I've tried most of the Northshore offerings, but I don't think you'll find a better Tena substitute than the BetterDry product.

As others have noted, any cloth-backed product tends to loosen over time. I've never had that problem with BetterDry; they stay taped and the tapes are quite good. Capacity is good as well, and the diaper is very discreet. In all, I think it's a good Tena placeholder. Maybe things will change at some point in the future and the Slip Maxi will again be widely available. Until then, my best option is BetterDry.
 
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When I lived in the UK, I wore Tena Slip Maxi almost exclusively. I really missed them when I returned to the States.

I have to say: BetterDry Day is the closest thing I've found to the Tena product. I've tried most of the Northshore offerings, but I don't think you'll find a better Tena substitute than the BetterDry product.

As others have noted, any cloth-backed product tends to loosen over time. I've never had that problem with BetterDry; they stay taped and the tapes are quite good. Capacity is good as well, and the diaper is very discreet. In all, I think it's a good Tena placeholder. Maybe things will change at some point in the future and the Slip Maxi will again be widely available. Until then, my best option is BetterDry.

Oh interesting, I actually read a bit more feedback on the BetterDry Day and canceled my order before it shipped. I read that it has a lot of pulp and not much sap, really bad press-out, low capacity.

I'm not a fan of cloth backed diapers but I'm willing to give them a shot from a company that makes good diapers. The stretching thing sucks but can be easily fixed by wearing elastic boxers (fixing pants) over the diaper. The velcro tabs are a big plus since I want to have the option to dry-wear it and use the bathroom in some situations.
 
loadedpamperman said:
I have a feeling they'll be back, eventually. The major issue right now is the massive shortage of shipping containers...you had 18+ months of everything shut down, to the point ships were losing hundreds of thousands of dollars/day because they couldn't get into port...LA had a backlog of days of ships WAITING to be off-loaded/reloaded.
A LOT of those shipping containers are still stuffed to the gills with whatever happened to be shipped in them and I guarantee that a bunch of those "cans" are considered "lost" even though they are in fact sitting somewhere on a dock. I heard that one used to be able to order an empty shipping container and generally have it in a day or so....now it can take weeks just to get ONE empty container. This is affecting ALL countries and ALL ports. There's literally trains, miles long loaded to the gills with container cars stacked to the max without a destination, with cargo that no one seems to know who owns, where it's supposed to go, who's merchandise is inside of it etc. Total logistics failure with the world shut down for Covid for over a full year! I've heard estimates from industry insiders that they NEED MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of empty containers. These containers physically exist, but have been misplaced, mislogged or not logged into a computer and it might take 2-5 years before this industry gets back to the efficiency it was working at pre 2020.
The ports were severely overloaded, workers that continued to show up were only a percentage of a full shift workforce, ships sailed to alternate ports in the hopes of being able to get unloaded/loaded quicker than they could have say, in LA. This is a complete and total global breakdown. Add n Russia waging war, China rattling sabers insisting they're going to take Taiwan and this might actually get worse. The biggest issue with China is the same issue Russia is facing right now....they very well might be able to take over the territory, but they "can't" have it as the only way they can take it over is to completely and utterly destroy it. The instant Taiwan gets invaded by China OR Russia expands their war into Moldova, Poland etc. forget it, shipping containers will be dumped of their contents and either instantly confiscated by the military for military use only and without a doubt many of them will be deemed to be SCRAP to be melted down for armaments. I don't believe people are taking this issue as serious as it really is as the likelihood of WWIII having ALREADY begun is actually better than a 50/50 proposition. People also fail to realize that this isn't something that's just beginning, it began to ramp up in earnest in 2017. You do the math.
I'd seriously buy what you can now because IF war breaks out in the S China sea, 95% of the ABDL diapers will be gone in an instant and there won't be any replacements until long after the war ends, the countries can rebuild their infrastructure, skilled employees are trained and taught how to do a totally different job than what they ever intended on doing for a living.....It's going to be horrific if this does in fact occur.

The above is an "educated" opinion who has friends in industry, friends in the military (several who are now high ranking individuals) and is a veteran himself. I do indeed hope I'm wrong and diplomacy either stalls the march to war or prevents it by some small miracle. I ask one favor... PLEASE do NOT make this political!!! I hate politics in general and especially hate the vile divisive opinions that have permeated American society in the past few years. I have friends on the right and left (I'm financially conservative yet socially liberal and have voted for both major party candidates as well as many independents) and when I hear my right wing friends make statements that "this country NEEDS a civil war" I snap and flip on them as they obviously fail to realize the disaster that would occur, the fact they'd be fighting their brothers, sons/daughters, some of their best friends and NO ONE wins, except the money men who produce the armaments AND finance all of the deals.....and you can GUARANTEE that NONE OF THEM will ever be involved in the fighting.

My apologies for this response kind of going off track...I've bee in indescribable pain for over a week, am sleep deprived and got into a heated argument over this exact subject tonight with one of my lifelong best friends as he sincerely feels a civil war in the US will somehow "magically" solve all problems AND make the country think like he does. The shame of this is that he too is a combat veteran though he didn't see any major action but was there and saw people die (Marines who died when a Scud missile hit their barracks in the 1st Gulf War)........ The truth is that all of these issues are intrinsically connected and directly related. What happens next is al dependent on our leaders (like them or not) being able to navigate these stormy seas without resorting to war although IF China OR Russia does the unthinkable, our hands will be tied and there will be but one possible response.

I pray what I wrote turns out to be way off base.
You didn't quite manage to avoid the politics there 😂
 
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You didn't quite manage to avoid the politics there 😂
I truly am sorry. I hate politics (and 99% of politicians) and I honestly had no intention of "hijacking" your post. I'm sincerely not thinking clearly now at all due to no sleep and far more completely unnecessary pain than I've experienced in some time. If my usage of the word "C**KSUCKER" offended anyone please know that word is NOT directed at anyone here...it's just a derogatory word I use to describe people who are gaping assholes. I honest to GOD have absolutely NOTHING against homosexuals and maybe I'm ignorant, but that word works for so many different uses and not one of them represents "homosexual" in my mind. Just like the word "GAY" doesn't have anything to do with anyone's sexuality in the way most people use that word. I honestly don't have ANY derogatory words that I use that are directed at homosexuals at all. I have far too many friends who are bi or homosexual to care even a little bit what makes anyone else happy! I truly believe the heart wants what the heart wants, and we don't get to choose. At least that's from my point of view but again, IF the use of any words I wrote offended anyone, I truly am sorry and apologize profusely!

To get back on topic, I don't know why some people have issues with Betterdry. I've been relying on these for my night time diaper (often with a Tranquility "Super Plus" contour booster pad as that combination will keep my underpads dry as a bone for upwards of 18-20 hours! The Betterdry DAY is incredibly comparable (favorably comparable at that) to the Tena ACTIVE Fit slip Maxi) while the standard Betterdry "10" is more absorbent than the Active fit slip Ultima! The comfort level is nearly identical...both have velvet soft plastic (no doubt the Tena is slightly more soft) but the Betterdry PE shell is far softer than say the Confidry - Dry 24/7! That PE shell is stiff and pretty unflex able whereas the Betterdry is buttery soft and due to that incredibly easy to conceal beneath a onesie and pair of jeans.....even sweat pants and shorts! I know. I've been needing to wear day and night for over 2 full years now and I am always very careful to ensure I am NOT advertising what type of "underwear" I have on and not once has anyone been able to tell, even when I told then I was in fact wearing.

I HIGHLY recommend the Betterdry although many places are awaiting their shipments as they're out of stock in many places. My supplier of choice is LLMedico followed by Northshore. I'd buy more from Northshore but even with the 10% vet discount I get from them they're still substantially more expensive than they are from LLMedico. I also get a veteran's discount from LL, but also earn "rewards" with every purchase (this amounts to just shy of 2 free cases of Betterdry per year for me) and they have the best prices, by a substantial margin! Both places offer top shelf customer service honestly, with it being impossible to rate one better than the other on the customer service front.

I highly recommend physically CALLING LLMedico to speak to them and if you're not certain Betterdry are for you simply order a sample pack (I think you get 2 for $5.95 or maybe a little more since sky high inflation kicked in. If you're into the ABDL prints, CRINKLZ are the same exact diaper except they're not plain white and have (I think) 8 different prints available. IF you do call LL you're almost certainly going to speaking to either Heather or Ashley, and both are caring, compassionate and non judgmental. You'd be hard pressed to speak to nicer people. I do ask that IF you call LLMedico, PLEASE tell them KIRK recommended them to you.

They all know me very well as I've been a customer of theirs for ever it seems. I get nothing extra for recommending them, but being they literally bent over backwards to help keep me in quality products overnight when I was at my lowest point (financially) and NO ONE ELSE would had cared or even tried to help me out. They did! I feel I owe them as many recommendations as I can offer and I like them to know I've recommended people that call...but that's all up to whoever calls doing me the favor of mentioning you heard about them, their service and products from me. Just my way of repaying those 8 months when I literally had to take on every possible job, despite several of them causing serios injuries to my already badly damaged lower spine, forcing me to spend many more days hospitalized.

THANK GOD I no longer am struggling just to make it another day thanks to FINALLY winning my 30+ year long war with the ARMY/VA as I received (was "awarded" full/permanent disability....HATE the way they worded that letter!) full disability in late '19 which more than quadrupled my income although I'm still the furthest thing from "rich" and will spend the next 10+ years paying off all of the debt my soon to be ex racked up behind my back while taking her numerous boyfriends on vacations, a cruise, renting an RV etc. etc. when I spent 2019 in TN making a substantial amount of desperately needed money helping my best friend get his gold mine of a business to turn significant profits compared to his losing money 3/4 previous years. I'm proud to say I succeeded far beyond any reasonable expectation on that front....I owned/operated my own business very successfully for over 20 years until disability forced me to sell. At least I am still good for something LOL.
 
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loadedpamperman said:
I highly recommend physically CALLING LLMedico to speak to them and if you're not certain Betterdry are for you simply order a sample pack
I never recommend anybody buy sample packs.

If you're going to try a new diaper, you should always order at least a Bag.

The sample packs tend to arrive "abused", wrinkled, and deformed.

Not to mention they're highly over priced.

Bags are pricey too, but at least they're vacuum sealed and you can actually get to know the diaper very well.

Two scrunched wrinkly sample diapers just doesn't quite allow you to really learn if a new diaper is right for you.
 
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