Molicare vs abena m4

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So which one is better I haven't used molicare in a long time. I use the abena m4 all the time. I love these diaper for something inexpensive. And also is Tranquility ATN any good any more. The last time I used them they leaked. Maybe I've gotten used to the more absorbent diapers. Thanks
 
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So I haven't used Molicare in a few yrs but had some that used to clump and a reason I switched to Abena it wasn't main reason but I made original switch when Molicare were purple but tried them again to be they were blue. For my needs I found the Abena not only fit better but I didn't have as many issues. As side note being paralyzed fit has always been an issue with most diapers when I took over care fulltime, when I had aids or in healthcare facility they had no issue getting them to fit properly. So like Molicare, Tena & Tranquility (few others) always seem tight fit when I put them on but when someone else did it(not a fantasy nor something I looked forward to but part of being disabled) they had no issues and they always fit.

As for the Tranquility ATN for me it's a solid daytime choice I tend to have heavier voids so it's like a 2-4 hr diaper for me. But what I truly like about Tranquility as a company though they have made improvements over the yrs if you took out an ATN from 2010 & 2022 it would be hard to spot the differences. They make a consistent product not many companies keep the same products even if they sell well yes Tranquility has introduced some breathable products but like the Slimline and ATN is widely used so still have plastic backed in most sizes(think youth and small are cloth like). I personally though have often switched diapers over the yrs I always have used Tranquility Booster and occasionally the peach color matting is more orange or different shades the ones I get today are same ones I got 8+yrs ago and I did find some at an estate sale from like 2012 and worked the same as ones I use now.
 
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I always liked ATNs. I'm not one to stay in a wet diaper past two wettings, so I don't need a 7000cc capacity. The M4 is probably max I'll ever need.
 
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ParaRomeo said:
So I haven't used Molicare in a few yrs but had some that used to clump and a reason I switched to Abena it wasn't main reason but I made original switch when Molicare were purple but tried them again to be they were blue. For my needs I found the Abena not only fit better but I didn't have as many issues. As side note being paralyzed fit has always been an issue with most diapers when I took over care fulltime, when I had aids or in healthcare facility they had no issue getting them to fit properly. So like Molicare, Tena & Tranquility (few others) always seem tight fit when I put them on but when someone else did it(not a fantasy nor something I looked forward to but part of being disabled) they had no issues and they always fit.

As for the Tranquility ATN for me it's a solid daytime choice I tend to have heavier voids so it's like a 2-4 hr diaper for me. But what I truly like about Tranquility as a company though they have made improvements over the yrs if you took out an ATN from 2010 & 2022 it would be hard to spot the differences. They make a consistent product not many companies keep the same products even if they sell well yes Tranquility has introduced some breathable products but like the Slimline and ATN is widely used so still have plastic backed in most sizes(think youth and small are cloth like). I personally though have often switched diapers over the yrs I always have used Tranquility Booster and occasionally the peach color matting is more orange or different shades the ones I get today are same ones I got 8+yrs ago and I did find some at an estate sale from like 2012 and worked the same as ones I use now.
Thanks for that.
 

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@ParaRomeo can I ask a personal question? You don't have to answer if not. What's it like being disabled?
 

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pdiapered said:
What's it like being disabled?
I'll give my 2¢ worth. There are three aspects to being disabled:
  1. It makes day to day life more complicated. What can you handle versus what do you need assistance with? What ongoing preparations need to be made for normal everyday occurrences (meds & supplies). Is a particular social engagement too much to handle?
  2. Interaction (mostly frustrating) with a bureaucracy that most never encounter: SSD, VA, Medicaid, social workers, specialists, physical therapists, durable medical, home healthcare, etc.
  3. Dealing with the pity or annoyance of the public
Nothing like being cut off by someone for a disabled parking space, only to find out they are not disabled (not even a borrowed placard). And when you ask them why they would do that, they get aggressive and tell you that they're only going to be 15 minutes. Laws may be passed to protect and assist the disabled, but that doesn't mean the laws are followed.

Last thing... I spend a lot of time at home because I don't have the physical strength to go out. That's what it's like to be disabled.
 
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I tried Molicare just once or twice, and didn't like it much. I think M4s are great, not the best out there, but they're reliable and cheap enough (at least, they used to be).
 

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Like normal the Cat beat me to it and had a great explanation

One big things for me and I do have a head injury but it seems like I do loose concept for time and how long it actually takes to do things. Like something I challenged people to is if you have free time try getting dressed but the trick is you have to do it laying down and you can't use your legs at all like no bridges (picking but off ground) and in this case try do all that and getting diapered it's challenging and can be frustrating more so when things happen like other day lay everything out fortunately I have a changing table but was like 90% ready depending on need usually I change last so I have max time before next change but that day had tapes rip yes I had another one within reach but the time it took mad me angry. So there is frustration at times with daily tasks , like we all have overslept or run late but for me because I stopped getting in home help(there is ups and downs) simply getting ready can take 25-90mims and that's a negative of not getting help where when I had an aid think there slowest time was 25mins all said & done but often you had to work on their schedule so like say I had a doc appt at 1pm and they came at 7am I was still kind of screwed a little because I needed to change in-between than.

There are some positives though like I do find I do alot more or pre-pandemic I was active in alot of disabled sports and activities

Also usually with people I don't know I have to tell them let me show you what I can do vs assuming what I can't because I have had people treat me like I was delayed because I am in a wheelchair.

Lastly I think one of the hardest parts for me was pride and embarrassment so being disabled alone you need help with a lot of things but being incont as well many times where you just have to stare at the ceiling and drema your somewhere else. When though little more comfortable with it it's like going to the doctors it's so much quicker for them if they need to do anything below my waist just to do it and for me it's embarrassing because I am an adult and I feel weird and like independence being taken away they don't treat me any different and inside I know the docs and the nurses like when I had aids they can strip me down do what's need and redress me way quicker but it's still a hard pill to swallow and this is meant as disrespectful but I am not into any of the abdl stuff & many have fantasies about being diapered in a hospital setting but honestly there is no enjoyment more so at my age most times besides a doc it's usually younger women but I was always the one helping and now I am helpless like my docs are great and do nothing to embarrass me and it's not done often maybe few times a yr but you need to check your pride but still feel helpless.

Like any situation it has goods and bads and at times it's what you make of it but like CCat mentioned there are some things that jast frustrating like parking so like last night place we went to the bartenders park on the handicap spots being private property if owners don't want to fix it yes I could stop going or I park like an ahole and say F it because it's like incont just because I wear and use diapers doesn't mean I have to stop doing things and if my friends go out it's sometimes not as easy as stop going there because parking or bathroom issue happens everywhere and that's another thing for me because I can't stand most if not all of my changes take place on a bathroom floor which is degrading and even with a changing pad I feel dirty unlike UK there are only 10 states in last few yrs that have adult changing table laws but even than it's not really perfect it's mainly for new construction so unlike when baby ones needed to be put in men's bathrooms that law included current places so I don't get how we mandate unisex bathrooms but changing tables which isn't new is hard to get.

Lastly x2 lol you see the world in a different way so even though I have friends with special needs kids and volunteered I didn't know some crap they deal with like parking yea when I worked a certain job I did enforce it but it's like throwing shit on a wall and it's like current employer the cops enforced handicap parking after i stated and people complained & the cops were told to stop handing out monetary fines or towing vehicles so it went from compliance to wild west because no one cares about a waring that won't be enforced or it's like most of my close circle even if i am not there now look to see if places are accessible and at times places that weren't have been guilted into making it accessible because the paralyzed guy squirming up n down stairs and people carrying my chair isn't the best look.
 
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CheshireCat said:
I'll give my 2¢ worth. There are three aspects to being disabled:
  1. It makes day to day life more complicated. What can you handle versus what do you need assistance with? What ongoing preparations need to be made for normal everyday occurrences (meds & supplies). Is a particular social engagement too much to handle?
  2. Interaction (mostly frustrating) with a bureaucracy that most never encounter: SSD, VA, Medicaid, social workers, specialists, physical therapists, durable medical, home healthcare, etc.
  3. Dealing with the pity or annoyance of the public
Nothing like being cut off by someone for a disabled parking space, only to find out they are not disabled (not even a borrowed placard). And when you ask them why they would do that, they get aggressive and tell you that they're only going to be 15 minutes. Laws may be passed to protect and assist the disabled, but that doesn't mean the laws are followed.

Last thing... I spend a lot of time at home because I don't have the physical strength to go out. That's what it's like to be disabled.
That would suck. So I yelled at a customer once for parking in a handicap. They were college kids.
 
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Parking in a handicap spot without a placard is a ticketable offense in most places. Take a pic of the license plate, the handicapped spot, and if possible, get your watch in the frame too. Send all that to your local PD and let them deal with it. It's almost no work at all for them to send out the ticket when you give them evidence like that, and the jackass will be on average $450 lighter in the wallet.
 
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