Aquabtm
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What diaper is that? It is not a Rearz diaper I am familiar with.Aquabtm said:This is what a completely soaked diaper and 1 stuffer looks like. View attachment 107782
Your statement is inaccurate. We haven't falsely inflated our numbers; rather, we've adjusted our measurement method to align more accurately with industry standards. Previously, we utilized third-party lab testing to gauge capacity, but we've transitioned to the method commonly employed by other ABDL brands. This change enables customers to make more informed comparisons between our products and others in the market.PaddedRebel said:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Rearz changed the way they measure capacity. I don’t know the exact specifics behind it, but they changed their process or rating system in order to falsely inflate these numbers. The reality is Rearz diapers are no more absorbent than any other brand.
Yet it’s a fairly well known fact that a number of your diapers share a lot in common with a number of Tykables products, including a few basically being the same construction with a different print. That doesn’t justify the difference in capacity ratings. There’s a reason why I don’t use your products anymore.RearzJacob said:Your statement is inaccurate. We haven't falsely inflated our numbers; rather, we've adjusted our measurement method to align more accurately with industry standards. Previously, we utilized third-party lab testing to gauge capacity, but we've transitioned to the method commonly employed by other ABDL brands. This change enables customers to make more informed comparisons between our products and others in the market.
We have written a blog post on this subject you can read here - https://rearz.ca/blog/update-capacity-numbers/
We base our ISO on the amount of SAP placed in the medium diaper and do not account for any additional fills. This ensures a clean and straightforward approach that is easy to understand and somewhat under rates what a "dunk test" would be.RearzJacob said:Your statement is inaccurate. We haven't falsely inflated our numbers; rather, we've adjusted our measurement method to align more accurately with industry standards. Previously, we utilized third-party lab testing to gauge capacity, but we've transitioned to the method commonly employed by other ABDL brands. This change enables customers to make more informed comparisons between our products and others in the market.
We have written a blog post on this subject you can read here - https://rearz.ca/blog/update-capacity-numbers/
Rearz did change the way they measure the capacity, which bumped up the numbers, but the capacity was increased before that happened. I'm not sure about the exact numbers but I believe the capacity of Rearz Safari went from 4981 mL to 8500 mL, according to the old measurement method. There was actually a significant increase. Then with the new measurement method the rating was changed to 11000 mL, but the diapers were not physically changed a second time. There was a capacity change and a measurement method change pretty close together, which is where some of the confusion comes from.PaddedRebel said:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Rearz changed the way they measure capacity. I don’t know the exact specifics behind it, but they changed their process or rating system in order to falsely inflate these numbers. The reality is Rearz diapers are no more absorbent than any other brand.
It would be great to hear from each company how they come up with their capacity ratings, have it listed on their websites or something so we can get a fuller picture when we compare the numbers between brands. It seems some of the brands don't explicitly say how their capacities are calculated, which leads to this confusion and accusations.todaler said:We base our ISO on the amount of SAP placed in the medium diaper and do not account for any additional fills. This ensures a clean and straightforward approach that is easy to understand and somewhat under rates what a "dunk test" would be.
Can you please be more specific in which brands you are referring to and a detailed method that you/they use? Please be as detailed as possible.
I know not everyone has the time place and opportunity to do so but I change every 4 to 6 hours just like a toddler would. I very rarely sit around in a soggy wet diaper for hours on end and as a result, now leaks, smells, or diaper rash. I even use baby power and my skin stays soft as a baby’s bottom so to speak. It’s important to maintain healthy skin when wearing diapers and it starts with changing frequently and using good quality diapers.BobbiSueEllen said:I agree that thicker is better...and on-scale with baby diapers. We adult babies do like our diapers thick...for both aesthetics and good absorbency.
The problem I have is that they're carrying the capacity issue too far because it's unrealistic. Diapers have two jobs: absorb and prevent leaks. They got the absorption issue mostly down, just gotta improve wicking in places; they're just not paying enough attention to leak prevention, if any. It's hard to understand why they just don't care about that. If they'd just widen the diaper's crotch by 2 or 3 inches and leave the padding width as it is, the plastic could rise up from the diaper crotch padding and seal the gaps where the inner thighs and perineum meet, the big source of diaper leaks. It's only a little bit of extra plastic added to each diaper, plastic that presently gets wasted in current production...plus space the outer leg elastics & inner leak guards out to match. I understand somewhat why it's not getting done now because the diaper's leg cut-outs are stamp-cut by rotating drums on each side: as the diaper rolls through, so do the drums with the sharp razor cutters in their current profile...and I know those drums are not cheap to make.
Question is: when can a new set of cutting drums be practically made and for how much?
Bingo. Real toddlers get changed 4 to 6 times per day and still get diaper rash sometimes. We're no different. I just don't see the logic for advertising a diaper that lasts for impractical lengths of time. But they'll say anything to make a sale, and hang the naysayers or those who know what it'll take to make a more leak-resistant diaper that actually works. I guess better leak protection isn't a moneymaker in their eyes, even when we do use their diapers for their intended purpose.
As someone who is incontinent and needs a high capacity diaper, your statement is entirely false.PaddedRebel said:The reality is Rearz diapers are no more absorbent than any other brand.
I’ve worn some of their most recent products. They’re no more absorbent to a comparable Tykables or ABU product in my experience.mayhem said:As someone who is incontinent and needs a high capacity diaper, your statement is entirely false.
Can we stop with the Rearz bashing and actually look at the tested numbers? The old barnyard elite—not even a mega—tested out at almost exactly the same absorbency as ABU and Tykables. That was not a “mega” version. The mega versions of their product have significantly more SAP, so we can expect a bump up is actually testing.PaddedRebel said:I’ve worn some of their most recent products. They’re no more absorbent to a comparable Tykables or ABU product in my experience.
I'm not comfortable responding to your comments as last time you reported me. I do not feel confident you will not try and do that again.todaler said:We base our ISO on the amount of SAP placed in the medium diaper and do not account for any additional fills. This ensures a clean and straightforward approach that is easy to understand and somewhat under rates what a "dunk test" would be.
Can you please be more specific in which brands you are referring to and a detailed method that you/they use? Please be as detailed as possible.
Hello Jacob, huge fan of the Mega diapers from Rearz. Thanks for making an amazing diaper. Can't get enough of them. The Inspire+ is my go to diaper day and night. Looking forward to trying the entire collection.RearzJacob said:I'm not comfortable responding to your comments as last time you reported me. I do not feel confident you will not try and do that again.
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