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I wouldn't be that sure...SparkyDog said:passing a DL / AB is virtually nill
I wouldn't be that sure...SparkyDog said:passing a DL / AB is virtually nill
Me too.babyjoe698 said:I always wonder the same thing
You're making many assumptioms based on your own experience. So I'll make my own now: I've met lots of AB/DLs, not unknown people, but actual friends or family. So it may not be as uncommon as we think. But we need actual data to say that or the contrary, or else we're just speculating.Honeywell6180 said:Keep in mind that many customers of ABUniverse, Bambino, and Tykables are special needs individuals who are require maximum absorbency. Sensory Processing Disorder may be another contributing factor to the level of incontinence experienced by some, particularly those who are on the autism spectrum. So, I would assume that ABDLs are actually a very small percentage of the total number of purchasers of ABDL products. In reality, I would speculate that in a city with a population of 150,000, maybe two or three individuals could be considered as ABDL while the rest will most likely have disabilities that require diapers to be worn.
So my suburb of a big city has about 150k and I know for certain of 4. I don’t go looking for these people but they’re either on fetlife or selling diapers online that I’ve traded with. I’d easily triple that number as most people don’t want any trace of their thing visible. Even if we simplify to 15 then that’s 1/10000. Thus Canada at ~ 40m we be 4000 abdl’sHoneywell6180 said:Keep in mind that many customers of ABUniverse, Bambino, and Tykables are special needs individuals who are require maximum absorbency. Sensory Processing Disorder may be another contributing factor to the level of incontinence experienced by some, particularly those who are on the autism spectrum. So, I would assume that ABDLs are actually a very small percentage of the total number of purchasers of ABDL products. In reality, I would speculate that in a city with a population of 150,000, maybe two or three individuals could be considered as ABDL while the rest will most likely have disabilities that require diapers to be worn.
I would agree. Whether IC people are using pads, shields or full-on diapers, you would be surprised about so many different places. People have to work, purchase for food and other items (including IC products) and simply trying to live as any other human. We are here and everywhere. It's not just IC seniors, ill or the disabled. I'm a teacher (and guidance counselor). I'm teaching your young people. Your friends. Colleagues. All over the world.Edgewater said:I will say that you are likely coming in contact with or passing by even more individuals that are IC as we represent the largest number of individuals buy medical diapers and wear every day regardless of where we are going. Whether a small town or a large city, the local grocery and drug stores all have adult diapers.
dogboy: I agree that there are probably more ABDLs than we can see but, still, that number is probably rather small. In addition, there is a certain percentage of ABDLs who know who & what they are but will never come out to anyone else, nor ever join something like ADISC, not even anonymously. For whatever reason, unknown and unknowable to us, they simply are not interested in meeting others. We can guess that some of these are largely something like asexual or loners. They're happy in their diapers, and that's all they want.dogboy said:I've always thought there are more of us than we think. Some may not act on it but the desire might be there. When I was a kid, I had two friends who were into it as well as myself.
Quite true. Even though it's 2023 and we think people are more accepting of alternative lifestyles, many people are still very judgemental. As a college student, I lived an exclusively gay life, having a college boyfriend. This was in the late '60s so being out as gay was dangerous as you could be arrested or put into a mental facility against your will. When my mom found my makeshift diapers and gay porn, she sent me to one of those facilities where I had to discuss all of this with a psychiatrist. As you suggested, I had no interest in going to a gay bar or mixing with a lot of gay people because I was a quiet gay. I also had career goals in mind and being out or outed would have ruined those goals.xy47402 said:dogboy: I agree that there are probably more ABDLs than we can see but, still, that number is probably rather small. In addition, there is a certain percentage of ABDLs who know who & what they are but will never come out to anyone else, nor ever join something like ADISC, not even anonymously. For whatever reason, unknown and unknowable to us, they simply are not interested in meeting others. We can guess that some of these are largely something like asexual or loners. They're happy in their diapers, and that's all they want.
Likewise, I've dealt with gay men who are out to themselves (and their partners, if they have them) but no one else. They will never enter a gay bar, sign a petition, attend a pride march, or allow themselves to enter any kind of alliance or liaison with what some are wont to call "the gay community." They don't feel thet they have anything in common with other gay men and won't even acknowledge them on the street, if they can help it.
I suspect that there are many ABDLs like this. I wonder if it has to do with internalized shame.
Some people simply are not joiners.
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