Hey! We’re slightly better than peeing on each other!

[Cottontail]

So the sample size was 2044, and it looks like somewhere between 7% and 14% (= approximately 140 to 280 people) indicated some level of interest in pedophilia. I'm... huh. That's pretty shocking, and makes me wonder whether the poll results are at all trustworthy.

 

[KaleidoscopeKitty]

So the sample size was 2044, and it looks like somewhere between 7% and 14% (= approximately 140 to 280 people) indicated some level of interest in pedophilia. I'm... huh. That's pretty shocking, and makes me wonder whether the poll results are at all trustworthy.

I agree that the stats look a bit unlikely. For example it looks like almost 40% indicated they have an interest in rape play - that would mean more than 1 in every 3 people. And 10% of people into bestiality? Obviously this was not a representative sample of the general population (and indeed almost 3x as many men responded as adults). I wonder if the people polled were largely those who already admitted to having kinks - it looks like the responses were largely found through a Twitter & Tumblr account so we’re likely only seen by the account’s followers. If those accounts are already fetish-focused then that might explain the high level of interest in some of the more taboo areas - in reality I imagine the percentages for many of these would be much, much lower in the general population.

 

[TheRainbowPrincess]

Yeah how is vore so much more acceptable than scat? Who made this chart?

 

[KaleidoscopeKitty]

It seems strange that ‘creepy crawlies’ would be so taboo as well, assuming that just means bugs? I get not many people would be into that but I don’t see what about spiders/ cockroaches etc would be taboo - yes, kind of weird and niche and probably a lot of people would squirm at the idea, but if someone told me they were into the idea of spiders crawling on them during sex I’d find that easier to get my head around than vore/ insest etc and would have thought most people would be the same. It’s maybe a little weird but I don’t see how it’s that socially unacceptable that it’s down between vore and scat (unless I’m misunderstanding the fetish - admit I’ve never heard of it before and just assume it’s to do with having bugs crawl on you during sex!).

 

[ej24]

... We simply can't extend ANY sympathy towards pedophilia, because pedophiles have shown they'll take full advantage of it and that's how we get people arguing that "minor-attracted people" should be included within the LGBTQIA+ community (which I know is a very small minority opposed by the very vast majority of LGBTQIA+, but it shouldn't even be a discussion).

I can't imagine how difficult that would be to work with abused/disabled kids.
And the "minor attracted people", I had no idea that was a thing people were pushing to normalize. That's not something you can rationalize, I just don't get it how that'd possibly be acceptable.
To be clear I was not apologizing for or trying to normalize them or their affliction. In no way should it be. And I agree we have to maintain a strong distance from that if we're to keep our community, that is ab/dl, safe and intact. Because sadly quite a number of people assume ab/dl = pedophile, which is entirely false.

Sorry didn't mean to totally derail the thread here.

 

[ej24]

I'm surprised by how far down this chart we are makes me sad. But also feel very lucky my fiancée is accepting. Or would pure DLism fall under inanimate objects? Borderline latex (for a lot of dl's it's a texture/sensation thing with plastic)? Honestly as everyone here can probably appreciate we know none of us falls into such discreet bins. We exist on a spectrum. Also yeah, idk how much we can extrapolate from this relatively small sample size supposedly accounting for so many sexual behaviors.

Also I looked up 'sounding' ... To each their own I suppose. I'm certainly not one to cast stones

 

[Astro]

There seems to be a bit of misconceptions and misinformation about paedophilia, when a lot of you are chastising and voicing outrage at paedophiles what you really should be saying is you despise child molesters and so you should. Child molestation and peadophilia and not synonymous and in fact the vast majority of individuals who are caught committing acts against children tend to not be peadophiles and are usually getting off on a power and control trip and also tend to be a family member or family friend.
Peadophilia is a physical attraction to a prepubescent body type on the chronophila spectrum and is a mental state that cannot be changed there is no "treatment" for it.
Making the assumption that all peadophiles are child molesters is like making the same assumption that all teleiophiles are rapists which is simply not true. Teleiophilia is the attraction to adult body types and again is a mental state which I'm sure most of us fall into.
It is of course true that you can have someone who has paedophilia and is guilty of offenses against children it is reasonable to assume that they would be in a similar proportion to teleiophiles who are rapists and since we know the vast majority of us go about our lives without going and raping people it would not be unreasonable to also assume that the majority of peadophiles out there would be unknown because for most people attraction does not equal molestation.

 

[PurplePup89]

Yeah how is vore so much more acceptable than scat? Who made this chart?

I'm assuming it's because vore is simply a fantasy which can't be carried out in the real world; vore isn't really the same thing as cannibalism, the near-entirety of the internet's plentiful vore artwork depicts physically impossible scenarios of being consumed, almost always whole. There's nothing realistic about vore, which is why I have to (hopefully) assume that people into vore aren't going around actually eating people. Scat, however, is very real, and that's clearly where the big line is drawn for a lot of people: fantasy vs. reality.

 

[PurplePup89]

I can't imagine how difficult that would be to work with abused/disabled kids.
And the "minor attracted people", I had no idea that was a thing people were pushing to normalize. That's not something you can rationalize, I just don't get it how that'd possibly be acceptable.
To be clear I was not apologizing for or trying to normalize them or their affliction. In no way should it be. And I agree we have to maintain a strong distance from that if we're to keep our community, that is ab/dl, safe and intact. Because sadly quite a number of people assume ab/dl = pedophile, which is entirely false.

To be clear, I wasn't pointing fingers at or insinuating anything about anyone in this thread; it's just that the topic was brought up and I chose to go on a mini-rant about it.

 

[FudgedInLuvs]

I just have a general question, why is there a taboo with girls being dominant and guys being submissive, why is the other was around acceptable/expected? I grew up with a pretty bad male figure in my life, and the only way he would be dominant with anyone was with verbal/emotional/psychological abuse, so being dominant with girls is not something I do, it just doesn't feel right to me just having witnesses bad power/control dynamics. Is there any way to get over this?

 

[Drifter]

How the heck is rape play slightly less taboo than age play?

It's nearly impossible to eliminate some kind of fantasizing when indulging in sex for pleasure. Heterosexual rape play, as long as it is actually fantasy play between consenting adults, is so close to what most people would consider 'normal' sex that it should be up there with alternative positions as far as being less taboo goes.

 

[Drifter]

Homosexuality is seen as abnormal, therefore taboo, to a number of people. I suppose homosexuality wasn't included in the list because some people don't see it as a "fetish", but looking at these things from a homosexual perspective would definitely change how some those things are perceived. Go down the list and check it out for yourself.

 

[DocBrown]

I just have a general question, why is there a taboo with girls being dominant and guys being submissive, why is the other was around acceptable/expected? I grew up with a pretty bad male figure in my life, and the only way he would be dominant with anyone was with verbal/emotional/psychological abuse, so being dominant with girls is not something I do, it just doesn't feel right to me just having witnesses bad power/control dynamics. Is there any way to get over this?

The human brain can be rewired, but core processing systems are way resistant to change. The question becomes, "Is a life without my "now natural" way of interacting with women so attractive that I will now choose to commit much or most of my efforts into taking a chance that is (insert "more" or "less") likely than my shedding my diaper desires".

You are who you are and you only have this one life. You might disagree but I think building on yourself, being and becoming the best you is way better than taking a decade or two (DO NOT FOOL YOURSELF) attempting what few accomplish.

You are you. And I don't know you so maybe none of this applies.

In any case, good luck

 

[CaterpillarSick]

So the sample size was 2044, and it looks like somewhere between 7% and 14% (= approximately 140 to 280 people) indicated some level of interest in pedophilia. I'm... huh. That's pretty shocking, and makes me wonder whether the poll results are at all trustworthy.

I wouldn’t consider it trustworthy. The weird results on pedophilia is one of the first red flags. That number shouldn’t be greater than about 5%. It says in the footnote that each group was explained, but I can’t find the original questionnaire to verify how well the explanations were. That’s a huge red flag when it comes to scientific polling. There’s also the unsettling issue that the poll was conducted by someone with no experience in polling or statistics. That’s not a deal breaker, but it doesn’t help the polls credibility. The other massive red flag is that the sample wasn’t a random slice of the population. The poll was hosted on their website instead of being sent to volunteers through a polling platform like SurveryMonkey. This means you have to take into consideration what kind of people are taking your survey. For example, almost no one on ADISC would find ageplay that taboo.

Who made this chart?

That is a bizarre rabbit hole involving drugs and porn. (You’ll understand if you look into it.)

 

[CaterpillarSick]

There seems to be a bit of misconceptions and misinformation about paedophilia, when a lot of you are chastising and voicing outrage at paedophiles what you really should be saying is you despise child molesters and so you should. Child molestation and peadophilia and not synonymous and in fact the vast majority of individuals who are caught committing acts against children tend to not be peadophiles and are usually getting off on a power and control trip and also tend to be a family member or family friend.
Peadophilia is a physical attraction to a prepubescent body type on the chronophila spectrum and is a mental state that cannot be changed there is no "treatment" for it.
Making the assumption that all peadophiles are child molesters is like making the same assumption that all teleiophiles are rapists which is simply not true. Teleiophilia is the attraction to adult body types and again is a mental state which I'm sure most of us fall into.
It is of course true that you can have someone who has paedophilia and is guilty of offenses against children it is reasonable to assume that they would be in a similar proportion to teleiophiles who are rapists and since we know the vast majority of us go about our lives without going and raping people it would not be unreasonable to also assume that the majority of peadophiles out there would be unknown because for most people attraction does not equal molestation.

Stop.

I know your trying to clear things up, but there’s a time and place and this isn’t it. I understand that pedophilia and child sexual assault are separate things, but they are inextricable linked. Continuing with posts like this can and will get you into serious trouble with the moderators.

 

[SillyLiam]

Rapeplay is tied with ageplay? tf... You've got to be joking

 

[TeddyBearCowboy]

Problem here is... that Paraphilic Infantilism isn’t LwYs a sexual fetish. Some of the god-complex psychologists seem to think they know it all and understand things they have never experienced for themselves.

Can being ABDL be a sexual fetish? Yes.
Can being a Diaper Lover be a sexual fetish? Yes.

Is this always so? Absolutely not!!!!

Forgive Teddy for going on a tangent here, but it is bullshit to characterize being ABDL or DL as just a sexual fetish. For many it may have nothing to do with sex. Others it may do from time to time, and others it is something that most always might be.

But being taboo is horse shit. Sure for some it is. They think it is weird or perverted.

But then really what is the definition of taboo is anyhow?

Wikipedia definition of taboo...


A taboo is an implicit prohibition on something (usually against an utterance or behavior) based on a cultural sense that it is excessively repulsive or, perhaps, too sacred for ordinary people.[1][2] Such prohibitions are present in virtually all societies.[1]On a comparative basis, taboos, for example related to food items, seem to make no sense at all, as what may be declared unfit for one group by custom or religion may be perfectly acceptable to another.

Well, not wearing masks can be figured by many right now as being taboo. Or vice versus. Voting for Donald Trump might be considered taboo by some, but likewise to most all of his party and his supporters anything other than supporting him is taboo.

My point here is that it is all about perception. It isn’t about right or wrong. So what if some people think it is taboo? They have their right to think what they want, but in measuring anything such as the study referenced here, it is all about measuring a certain population or demographics. It’s not a true picture of a thing, just a sampling of whatever the given population sampled might think.

In Nazi, Germany in WWII, it would have been taboo to reject the ideals of the third reich. But as that present time passed, history and manning has proven that what the Germans thought was taboo, is really the total opposite. What they did and the very thinking of such things is now in most common circumstances thought as the real taboo.

Hence, I’m not going to lose sleep if someone thinks being ABDL is taboo, or if it is simply a sexual fetish. Knowledge is power and wisdom is even greater. Until someone truly understands what being ABDL is, they are an outsider and entitled to their opinions, but lacking knowledge, or wisdom about it, their thinking is flawed and hence the wandering ignorance of an idiot or arrogant.

 

[WaddleKitten]

So the sample size was 2044, and it looks like somewhere between 7% and 14% (= approximately 140 to 280 people) indicated some level of interest in pedophilia. I'm... huh. That's pretty shocking, and makes me wonder whether the poll results are at all trustworthy.

What really makes me question it is that pedo is higher on the taboo scale than necro............................................ that must be a lack of awareness issue

 

[ChocChip]

What really makes me question it is that pedo is higher on the taboo scale than necro............................................ that must be a lack of awareness issue

Well, trying to compare those at the extreme end of the scale is probably pointless, but surely nothing is more taboo than the (potential) abuse of an innocent child?

 

[PurplePup89]

What really makes me question it is that pedo is higher on the taboo scale than necro............................................ that must be a lack of awareness issue

I can't emphasize enough that both acts are utterly detestable and reprehensible, but I absolutely see why pedophilia is higher, and I agree with that. Child molestation can destroy the life of the child or children involved; it can severely traumatize them at a young age and therefore subjects them to a lifetime of psychological and emotional challenges. Conversely, as perverse as the act of necrophilia is, the same can not be said of a corpse. While necrophilia is still a crime and should be treated as such, I would say pedophilia carries far worse consequences for its living victims.