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I bet there is something you are very good at. That why I think schools should help in hance a person talents instead of putting everyone in a round hole or square one .SmolYui said:
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hmm, i wouldn't say there's a particular thing i'm good at, and i don't really have that specific interest most do, i just sort of jump between stuff.foxkits said:
I think my problems lie more in my anxiety than anything else, cause I can't even order in a restaurant, or use a store without self checkout, or even use a taxi, at the moment, let alone think about getting a job _-_.
but yeah, school isn't really something that can be done the same for everyone, because everyone learns differently, and works in different ways, it's not really designed to hone talents, just get a wide spread of knowledge. mhm
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I can’t believe that I was new job interview at children’s hospital for housekeeping last April 2016. After my mom was meeting with my job specialist and my bureau vocational rehabilitation consular about me in age three and that’s insurance don’t accept for neurological services including physiological, mental health, or neurology. I was formerly my first doctor of neurophysiological to diagnosed me to found autistic. I was age 7 because I am exited due improper diagnosis. I don’t know that odd! Sorry about English grammar are scrambling.
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Yes. That describes me. Even when I was very young, I didn't have the mental wherewithal to stop what I was doing and find a bathroom. That's still true today sometimes.chiaochai said:
As far as it being a disability, yes. There are times I fail to respond to people's questions, even though I know they're talking to me. There are times I can't get my brain and body to coordinate long enough to "do the thing". And crowded, noisy environments are a great recipe for getting me to lock up (which can sometimes lead to wetting myself if I was in the middle of trying to find a bathroom when I got overwhelmed by stimulus).
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Hey I have same grammar stuffTasmaniandevilpadded said:
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That's okay... we understand you.Tasmaniandevilpadded said:
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Autism is only not a disability if you manage to also get the mental capacity to adjust by using sheer cognitive power, reasoning your way through life and using most of your cognitive ability during school life to build this huge internal encyclopedia of human social behavior so you can quickly apply the best "reaction" in all situations. I can tell you this is pretty mentally taxing in the long run, not to even mention the countless failures in the beginning and the willpower required to keep up the motivation to even attempt this level of "social adjustment". It also can make one fairly angry at the universe once they realize that is what they have been doing all along, and that the "others" just got all that "for free" and could concentrate on the more important things, like learning useful skills, science, etc.
Of course as a result of this encyclopedia I've become interested in, and well versed in psychology and can, as an adult, offer all sorts of advice in all sorts of situations to normal people as I have analyzed both the good, the bad, the worse and the excellent responses to social situations along with a lot of hidden meanings and motivations for certain actions. Just purely "academically" which apparently is the unusual part as I've never had the ability to do it spontaneously on the spot. Every time there was a situation where I felt like someone's response was somehow not in-line with the good intentions I usually have, or I accidentally caused damage with some "blunt" idea or response, I would analyze the whole situation and try to figure out everything, then come up with a more "appropriate" response instead, which I would try next time. Also learning when someone is trying to use you, or is lying to you is something I've learned the hard way. The initial realization that people almost always have ulterior motives when engaging in social communication, and that it's not "raw" idea coming out helped get me started. This was a big breakthrough for me once upon a time... Over time all this adds up.
This is probably mostly applicable to what used to be called Asperger's or "autistic traits, behavior and social blindness in individuals with normal to gifted intelligence". You could say you get two curses: the autism to make you different from others, and the mental tools to worry about it and at least try to adjust. It's probably a bit easier if you don't even get the idea of wanting to adjust, unlike most Aspies who usually do want to at least try some social things one on one or in small groups(max. 5 people). I have always had this dream of living alone far away from civilization by myself due to the absolute hell called the educational system, but can almost completely "mask" the fact in work life. I do still occasionally run into "novel" situations and then it might come as a shock to people around me if I suddenly become "completely lost". "I always thought you were so social and intelligent."
One recent example of a novel situation I've had was that after my health issues started and I had some "woopsies" done by doctors at the hospital, I learned that normally people can't handle talking about death or disability, even when it's not happening to them. Also that it's assumed almost universally that such experiences cause some sort of trauma if happening to an individual. Another thing being that I now know that I have no idea how a normal person "presents" to a doctor, because there is something pretty obviously wrong with me but I am unable to communicate it. The good doctors have at least realized that I truly am just happpily matter-of-fact style listing some stuff that might cause anxiety in a normal person while in great pain and I'm not "just crazy". I just didn't know that you're "allowed" to not be happy or positive when in enough pain to put down any grown man or having sudden loss of mobility due to illness causing almost complete confinement to bed or wheelchair, among other things.
Why can't people just say what they are thinking instead of going through hoops and loops to say or ask something very simple? Why do people judge others, what's the benefit? Why are people interested in what other people do and talk about it without involving that person? Why do people lie about things that aren't even that serious? Why do people need time to build up trust even though there has been no reason for distrust? Why do people seek to become part of a group? Why does he get to tell me what to do in the group? How does everyone else know when it's ok to talk or "break the rules"? Why do people break the rules in the first place? How did my classmates at school know that they are supposed to accept the authority of the teacher? Why had the teachers seemingly explained it to them, but I was asked for blind acceptance of authority without explanation? Why did they later get angry if I pointed out their blatant mistake or cognitive dissonance? Why did my classmates get angry at me when I was just answering truthfully to a teachers question? Isn't speaking the truth a positive trait and the rule? And lastly, how the hell do people know when it's time to scatter from a social gathering without a set end time???
I'm sorry if I offended someone, but this is just me without the masking. I also have ADHD inattentive type as a diagnosis, but the fairly obvious autistic traits were completely ignored at school and when going through evaluations I was most definitely too afraid to let anything show. I was clinically "within normal" but still in every sense all but normal. As a result I didn't get any support and was left to just fight for myself until changed schools and "won the lottery" so to speak as the new class and teacher created an environment where I didn't need any support. I was able to completely normal and any oddities were equal to or less than anyone else. ASD and ADHD are slightly overrepresented(but vastly underdiagnosed at the same time) in the population where I live, which probably made this possible. I then had to switch schools again for middle school, problems again, so switched again and again I "won the lottery". Then starting high school i had complete burnout and a year of sick leave at 16 as I just couldn't anymore. At 17 I took full control of my own life, moved out of home(no real issues there, very caring single mother) and found work, studied this and that on my own terms, traveled the world a bit. Lived in literal poverty in Asia out of my own choice and I was the happiest I had ever been. I learned that the cultural norms define many values and that they can be very different in different places. Asian cultures felt nice because I soon realized that EVERYONE is masking there, normal or not. This made social adjustment quite easy.
tl;dr Autism is both a gift and a curse, disability for some, key to success to others. It's an ability to observe things unobservable to the average person, but comes at huge cost in our socially centered world.
Of course as a result of this encyclopedia I've become interested in, and well versed in psychology and can, as an adult, offer all sorts of advice in all sorts of situations to normal people as I have analyzed both the good, the bad, the worse and the excellent responses to social situations along with a lot of hidden meanings and motivations for certain actions. Just purely "academically" which apparently is the unusual part as I've never had the ability to do it spontaneously on the spot. Every time there was a situation where I felt like someone's response was somehow not in-line with the good intentions I usually have, or I accidentally caused damage with some "blunt" idea or response, I would analyze the whole situation and try to figure out everything, then come up with a more "appropriate" response instead, which I would try next time. Also learning when someone is trying to use you, or is lying to you is something I've learned the hard way. The initial realization that people almost always have ulterior motives when engaging in social communication, and that it's not "raw" idea coming out helped get me started. This was a big breakthrough for me once upon a time... Over time all this adds up.
This is probably mostly applicable to what used to be called Asperger's or "autistic traits, behavior and social blindness in individuals with normal to gifted intelligence". You could say you get two curses: the autism to make you different from others, and the mental tools to worry about it and at least try to adjust. It's probably a bit easier if you don't even get the idea of wanting to adjust, unlike most Aspies who usually do want to at least try some social things one on one or in small groups(max. 5 people). I have always had this dream of living alone far away from civilization by myself due to the absolute hell called the educational system, but can almost completely "mask" the fact in work life. I do still occasionally run into "novel" situations and then it might come as a shock to people around me if I suddenly become "completely lost". "I always thought you were so social and intelligent."
One recent example of a novel situation I've had was that after my health issues started and I had some "woopsies" done by doctors at the hospital, I learned that normally people can't handle talking about death or disability, even when it's not happening to them. Also that it's assumed almost universally that such experiences cause some sort of trauma if happening to an individual. Another thing being that I now know that I have no idea how a normal person "presents" to a doctor, because there is something pretty obviously wrong with me but I am unable to communicate it. The good doctors have at least realized that I truly am just happpily matter-of-fact style listing some stuff that might cause anxiety in a normal person while in great pain and I'm not "just crazy". I just didn't know that you're "allowed" to not be happy or positive when in enough pain to put down any grown man or having sudden loss of mobility due to illness causing almost complete confinement to bed or wheelchair, among other things.
Why can't people just say what they are thinking instead of going through hoops and loops to say or ask something very simple? Why do people judge others, what's the benefit? Why are people interested in what other people do and talk about it without involving that person? Why do people lie about things that aren't even that serious? Why do people need time to build up trust even though there has been no reason for distrust? Why do people seek to become part of a group? Why does he get to tell me what to do in the group? How does everyone else know when it's ok to talk or "break the rules"? Why do people break the rules in the first place? How did my classmates at school know that they are supposed to accept the authority of the teacher? Why had the teachers seemingly explained it to them, but I was asked for blind acceptance of authority without explanation? Why did they later get angry if I pointed out their blatant mistake or cognitive dissonance? Why did my classmates get angry at me when I was just answering truthfully to a teachers question? Isn't speaking the truth a positive trait and the rule? And lastly, how the hell do people know when it's time to scatter from a social gathering without a set end time???
I'm sorry if I offended someone, but this is just me without the masking. I also have ADHD inattentive type as a diagnosis, but the fairly obvious autistic traits were completely ignored at school and when going through evaluations I was most definitely too afraid to let anything show. I was clinically "within normal" but still in every sense all but normal. As a result I didn't get any support and was left to just fight for myself until changed schools and "won the lottery" so to speak as the new class and teacher created an environment where I didn't need any support. I was able to completely normal and any oddities were equal to or less than anyone else. ASD and ADHD are slightly overrepresented(but vastly underdiagnosed at the same time) in the population where I live, which probably made this possible. I then had to switch schools again for middle school, problems again, so switched again and again I "won the lottery". Then starting high school i had complete burnout and a year of sick leave at 16 as I just couldn't anymore. At 17 I took full control of my own life, moved out of home(no real issues there, very caring single mother) and found work, studied this and that on my own terms, traveled the world a bit. Lived in literal poverty in Asia out of my own choice and I was the happiest I had ever been. I learned that the cultural norms define many values and that they can be very different in different places. Asian cultures felt nice because I soon realized that EVERYONE is masking there, normal or not. This made social adjustment quite easy.
tl;dr Autism is both a gift and a curse, disability for some, key to success to others. It's an ability to observe things unobservable to the average person, but comes at huge cost in our socially centered world.
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Well shit ( I mean shoot bad baby
) I self diagnosed myself a long time ago because my brother was servery mentally handicapped.
These days I can say I'm definitely I have autism. I struggle to find a sentence not because I'm slow it's just I process things faster than my brain goes. I'm very gifted at art , golf , and alot of visuals.
Unfortunately I fall into the category of non verbal communication at times. Lately it's been like that because I feel better and learn better being quiet. When I start the mumbling and babbling it never stops that's definitely me being that I have autism.
Being that I definitely have it there are challenges along the way I prefer.
I need time to think about what I'm going to say before I speak it because yes , something's might be absolutely funny to some people but I'm also very capable of just hurting someones feelings just ad easy & it has happened before. Anyways.
) I self diagnosed myself a long time ago because my brother was servery mentally handicapped.These days I can say I'm definitely I have autism. I struggle to find a sentence not because I'm slow it's just I process things faster than my brain goes. I'm very gifted at art , golf , and alot of visuals.
Unfortunately I fall into the category of non verbal communication at times. Lately it's been like that because I feel better and learn better being quiet. When I start the mumbling and babbling it never stops that's definitely me being that I have autism.
Being that I definitely have it there are challenges along the way I prefer.
I need time to think about what I'm going to say before I speak it because yes , something's might be absolutely funny to some people but I'm also very capable of just hurting someones feelings just ad easy & it has happened before. Anyways.
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can anyone recommend books or reasouces for adults with autism?
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One possibility is:
I have not read this one myself but I noticed this title nine pages into the Amazon Kindle store titles when I searched for Autism and sorted by Featured and it seems to have good reviews. It also has some mediocre to bad reviews. Also, it only appears to be compatible with the Windows version of the Kindle App. If you decide to buy this book the following link to the paperback version may be better:
I have not read this one myself but I noticed this title nine pages into the Amazon Kindle store titles when I searched for Autism and sorted by Featured and it seems to have good reviews. It also has some mediocre to bad reviews. Also, it only appears to be compatible with the Windows version of the Kindle App. If you decide to buy this book the following link to the paperback version may be better:
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I read so long because my brain was full capacity. I decided that long description are enough. I’m aspie as like. Ok
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Your TRUE SELF never changes.You are not only human. The force will be with you always. Your point of view changes whether you want it to or not. Anything is possible with love. Not everything is permissible(allowed). Good is rewarded while bad is punished. I quote from the new testament, "Lean not on your own understanding" which i translate to, In God we trust. further translation to, let sacred knowledge be your strength. You don't have to go to church every sunday to realize what that means to you.
just because you have autism doesn't mean you are slow or dumb. real smart is knowing yourself and encouraging others to be truthful about their life and stress from the real world. The right people will come into your life and lend a shoulder for you to lean on when needed. Trust that you are never alone even when you are home alone or work alone. be kind to bullies and stand up for what is right with your friends and family.
from KyleXY with real, sacred, true, and unconditional love
just because you have autism doesn't mean you are slow or dumb. real smart is knowing yourself and encouraging others to be truthful about their life and stress from the real world. The right people will come into your life and lend a shoulder for you to lean on when needed. Trust that you are never alone even when you are home alone or work alone. be kind to bullies and stand up for what is right with your friends and family.
from KyleXY with real, sacred, true, and unconditional love
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My intellect helped me cope with being autistic when young, but the ageing process and burnout in middle age dropped my functioning level down.
I keep going, but it is hard to function and remain independent.
Less verbal.
LOts of now out in the open autistic stimming and behaviors.
I will be 65 next month.
I keep going, but it is hard to function and remain independent.
Less verbal.
LOts of now out in the open autistic stimming and behaviors.
I will be 65 next month.
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So sick of the one size "autism isn't a disability" because this invalidates many people on it who will need full time care and can't hold down employment and I wish autism was just a personality quirk because if it was, then we could just stop having the traits and hold it in. It's the whole point of a diagnoses because it impairs you and affects how you function. I'm happy to see users here disagreeing that this isn't a disability.
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For me, Autism is disabling.Calico said:
I tried holding down jobs, but could not.
My autistic traits/behaviors just sunk my employment, employer after employer, despite having a degree in Engineering.
I thought of myself as:
"Engineer Shithead".
I can not handle the social functioning demands of employmment.
Never could, really, looking back decades to when I graduated from High School.
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i mean to say about autism is that people with high functioning autism can function in the real world however i can't speak for all people with autism. they will probably need like you said full time care and I just need a little nudge in the right direction. anyone like me with light autism can take care of themselves with a little help along the way.Calico said:
please don't take my point of view as speaking for all people with autism. i am sorry if i mislead you.
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I have autism. Autism doesn't have me. i am not defined by my disorder or disease
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Autism spectrum disorder is a neurological disorder, does not have a disease. Specific disorders are like autism, autistic, and Asperger’s syndrome which was younger age and plus children with autism. I have autistic of Asperger’s syndrome because I have neurological issues.KyleXY said:
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An apology for going pee on myself earlier.
I am not "Engineer Shithead".
But quite the opposite.
I ended-up working for shitheads who refused to listen to me, when I told them their product had a fucking flaw that would sink the company.
Another employer ordered me to be "SUPERMAN", which was unrealistic.
At that company, I caught my boss in his office with an open edition of HUSTLER Magazine sitting with his pants down with his fucking cock in his hands and cum being expelled.
Instead of him getting fired, I did, because he hated the shit out of disabled people.
I am not "Engineer Shithead".
But quite the opposite.
I ended-up working for shitheads who refused to listen to me, when I told them their product had a fucking flaw that would sink the company.
Another employer ordered me to be "SUPERMAN", which was unrealistic.
At that company, I caught my boss in his office with an open edition of HUSTLER Magazine sitting with his pants down with his fucking cock in his hands and cum being expelled.
Instead of him getting fired, I did, because he hated the shit out of disabled people.
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I can’t believe that your boss was masturbation in public. Rude employers and did you stole an oscilloscope brought to your home?caitianx said: