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Windows XP Support Ending Soon Will You Be Upgrading Or Sticking With Old Reliable?


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Support for Windows XP will be ending April 8th, 2014. Will you guys be sticking with "old reliable" Windows XP or will you be upgrading to Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 or some other OS like Linux or Ubuntu?
 

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At home / office I have a Mac (latest OS).

At the shop I have both a mac and a windows pc - as well as a Linux Server.

I've ditched windows XP the moment Win7 was released... and happily upgraded to 8 / 8.1.

Vista surely sucked bad... probably the most epic OS Fail in history of Windows.
7 was far better than XP ever was. 8.1 is quite quite good.

But I for one am happy that XP is as dead as dead can be.

Back in its hay-day it wasn't bad. But it was pestered from start by the old dos-core. more security holes than swiss cheese has holes (and in swiss cheese, the holes actually belong). Was an unstable, slowly self-destructing (getting more bloated and slower and slower), virus loving piece of junk.
Basically it was XP that made me at the time almost exclusively use Mac.
IT was like a patchwork os (XP) that was like with SP3 (or was it SP 6591 ;) ) became slightly more stable / security aware... but by that time it was already bast it's shelf life and was seriously lacking.
But I guess if Vista hadn't failed so badly on its own, XP would have been killed off much sooner.
Due to the fuck up with Vista I guess many folks kept operating XP far longer than healthy, and were naturally weary of upgrading to Win7.

But honestly, Win8.1 is probably the best windows version released to this day, it's a pretty modern system. But still has a lot of "jokes" attached like a graphics hogging aero interface (that gladly can be shut off).


So mark my words XP: DIE... please do us all the favor and finally DIE... you - XP - are like one of those freak-monsters from a bad B-Movie... killed off twenty times and yet still popping up half-alive and murderous around the next corner.
So have the grace to finally die, for good this time. Thank you.
 

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My mate has xp on his desktop.
I think he will stick with that.
We both have Win7 on our laptops.

If we get a new laptop we may buy Win7 to replace 8.
Tho I would take xp over 8 any day.
 

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I think I will stick with 7 for now - I upgraded to 7 shortly after it came out, and have been mostly pleased with it. 8's performance is stunning, but it's interface is garbage. I forgot how cheesy and annoying hot corners were (After Dark screen savers on Win 3.1?!) until I used 8 on my partner's laptop. I'm not entirely certain how one gets work done using the Modern interface, and what the rationale behind forcing its loading as the first interface you see before 8.1 came out. When 9 comes out, I hope they provide some further options to tailor the interface to our individual needs. When we start seeing Microsoft Visual Studio in an immersive Modern interface - and people actually use it - I will be totally sold on the concept. Until then, Microsoft is admitting that their OS is undeniably schizo.

As for a Linux distro, I pledge to go this route when:
1. Firaxis releases the current or next version of Civilization for this platform
2. Netflix switches to a cross platform HTML5 player (that supports browsers in Linux without hacks)
3. Steam has 600 games available for this platform - based on their current pace, I expect this will be the first of my conditions met, and soon!
 

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I had a Vista desk top machine that just kept getting worse and worse, until it could no longer recognize the internet. I ditched it when my son-in-law gave me his four year old Windows 7 machine. It runs very well and so I'm happy with it. Vista always had problems hooking up to my wifi.
 

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Tho I would take xp over 8 any day.

Why on earth would you do this?

Fancy more security holes?
Fancy a far more unstable system?
How about all those nice neat processes running in shared memory space without any security attached?
Nice old 32 Bit on what must be these days mostly 64Bit systems...
FAT32? really or even FAT16 joke file systems?
Outdated in EVERY aspect for at least 5 years now?
User "Security" that is basically non-existent?
A highly outdated interface?

Tell me, what exactly is it that makes WinXP your choice?
 

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Tell me, what exactly is it that makes WinXP your choice?

not for him, but for me, it's the ease of use (although i do find 7 not bad; but i don't like it's picture viewer) and the pre-installed software on my edition.
and i don't intend to pay Microsoft for any upgrade. to my mind, the US government (or possibly, internationally) should force Microsoft to maintain XP, and it's other OS's, for the simple reason that it knowingly sold defective products. a car manufacturer wouldn't get away with it.
 

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Windows 7 would be my first choice, mainly for compatibility and user-friendliness. I've been working with Linux Mint and a couple different flavors of Ubuntu lately, the progress they're making on them is great but Linux just isn't that practical for me to use. I still have to occasionally deal with Windows XP on some of the PCs that I have to troubleshoot at work, and the more I have to deal with it, the more I'm glad that Microsoft is finally pulling the plug on it for good.
 

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not for him, but for me, it's the ease of use (although i do find 7 not bad; but i don't like it's picture viewer) and the pre-installed software on my edition.
and i don't intend to pay Microsoft for any upgrade. to my mind, the US government (or possibly, internationally) should force Microsoft to maintain XP, and it's other OS's, for the simple reason that it knowingly sold defective products. a car manufacturer wouldn't get away with it.

?! Whilst I am really not a defender of what microsft does with releasing "beta" (final) releases as a selling version... I really don't support your logic here.

We would have NO advancement at all if what you want would be true (that they should be held accountable to that degree) because only a limited number of business owners would be even willing to take those risks involved.
Also your logic is flawed: if my car suddenly stops mid-highway going 120mph and I die and cause a massive traffic accident, well it is undoubtly on a very very different scale than what microsoft ever did bad with releasing buggy software.

Also no one forces you to use MS Stuff - so you have choices (with their own set of advantages and problems).

And forcing them - even in theory - to continue to support a product that is truly outdated in any aspect compared to modern operating systems would be just ridiculous.

also not paying for upgrades? why not? I mean, you don't have to do every jump, but for exampel now that win 8.1 is released it's rather stable and works well...
Don't buy it the moment the first release hits the shelves - the same was true with XP.
Win 2000 and NT3.51 befor that were MUCH more stable than XP ever was, especially after its initial release. Sorry, but before SP1 XP had more holes than a pasta sieve.

And every two or three years about a 100 quid for an OS isn't that bad - upgrading your hardware is much more pricey.

and if you want FREE: go linux

If you want more reasonable pricing schemes on the software side: OS X.
 

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?! Whilst I am really not a defender of what microsft does with releasing "beta" (final) releases as a selling version... I really don't support your logic here.

We would have NO advancement at all if what you want would be true (that they should be held accountable to that degree) because only a limited number of business owners would be even willing to take those risks involved.
Also your logic is flawed: if my car suddenly stops mid-highway going 120mph and I die and cause a massive traffic accident, well it is undoubtly on a very very different scale than what microsoft ever did bad with releasing buggy software.

Also no one forces you to use MS Stuff - so you have choices (with their own set of advantages and problems).

And forcing them - even in theory - to continue to support a product that is truly outdated in any aspect compared to modern operating systems would be just ridiculous.

also not paying for upgrades? why not? I mean, you don't have to do every jump, but for exampel now that win 8.1 is released it's rather stable and works well...
Don't buy it the moment the first release hits the shelves - the same was true with XP.
Win 2000 and NT3.51 befor that were MUCH more stable than XP ever was, especially after its initial release. Sorry, but before SP1 XP had more holes than a pasta sieve.

And every two or three years about a 100 quid for an OS isn't that bad - upgrading your hardware is much more pricey.

and if you want FREE: go linux

If you want more reasonable pricing schemes on the software side: OS X.

Agree with all of this. Creating a law forcing Microsoft to continue to support Windows XP (or ME, or 2000, or 98, or 95, or 3.1, because they can't just pick and choose, right?) not only puts another unnecessary law in the books, it makes zero sense. I can't buy a car that was manufactured in the 80s, take it to a dealership, and expect them to drop brand new parts in it. Why? Because the company that made my car doesn't have the time or money to continue to support outdated products. Let's face it: Windows XP is a 13 year old operating system. Thirteen years is an eternity in IT. People throw away fully functioning computers that are half that old. If you like XP, cool, continue to use it. Just don't expect Microsoft to continue to expend resources into supporting it when their resources would be better used on developing the current version or laying a foundation for the next version.
 
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Wife and I had to get a new PC a while back. The PC we bought has Windows 8 on it. It took me a while to learn the dual home screen set up. BUt once I figured that out, it was pretty easy to navigate. I like how a lot the programs and process are upgraded in 8.
 

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Tho I would take xp over 8 any day.

Im in the Same Boat as you XP is much better than 8

Why on earth would you do this?

Fancy more security holes?
Fancy a far more unstable system?
How about all those nice neat processes running in shared memory space without any security attached?
Nice old 32 Bit on what must be these days mostly 64Bit systems...
FAT32? really or even FAT16 joke file systems?
Outdated in EVERY aspect for at least 5 years now?
User "Security" that is basically non-existent?
A highly outdated interface?

Tell me, what exactly is it that makes WinXP your choice?

my version of XP was HEAVILY hacked and modified. between me and my father we closed more loopholes than microsoft even knew existed. my version of windows XP runs smoother and more user friendly than windows 7. i also ditched windows defender in liu of a more reliable customisable third party Firewall, and loaded up on High Dollar Avast anti virus and never had a problem out of it. my 2 year old laptop was my first windows 7 PC and to be honest with 6GB ram and i5 dual core it ran slower and more choppy than my 2GB ram and Core 2 Duo win XP desktop. I only Decided i liked Win 7 better after i paired it with a 4.6GHZ 8 core, 16GB ram, and a sizable GPU because i finally had enough Horse power to run windows 7 as fast as my Custom XP. i still have it as a Dual Boot on my Gaming PC for use with my older games like the original sims and Vampire the Masqurade.
 

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I've been on Windows 7 since Just Cause 2 came out. going back to XP would be like going back to windows ME/2000 from XP.

Sadly microshit wanted to make Windows 8 more like mac OS. Though when I get a SSD I'll likely go for windows 8 on it, more so if microsoft does offer 8.1 for free.
 

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But honestly, Win8.1 is probably the best windows version released to this day, it's a pretty modern system. But still has a lot of "jokes" attached like a graphics hogging aero interface (that gladly can be shut off).

that matter is up for debate, i have toyed with it extensivly. everything about it is flipping annoying, i have yet to find a way to hack the system so i can modify it to my specs.

my opinion is actually the opposite of yours windows 8.1 is in my opinion the WORST OS they have made. i will stick with Windows 7 untill they either realise that Xbox dashboard needs to stay on xbox and go back to a desktop, or Valve finally gets universal Support for Steam OS.
 

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I have XP running on an old HP Business Class laptop. That thing couldn't handle anything more gutsy, so I'll leave it be. I hardly ever use it anyway, and even then it's mostly for the bigger screen. I'm running Windows 7 on a 2-year old netbook as my main computer, although I might wipe it and put Ubuntu on it instead.
 

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At home I have Vista on my desktop and Windows 7 on my laptop. At work however, every computer uses XP and that is because of the way our network was originally setup...or mangled together if you ask me. I plan on mentioning that support for the operating system is going to be stopping, but the management is older and barely understands how to use Word let alone anything else so it will most likely fall on deaf ears.
 

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My current laptop is Windows 8.1; I got an upgrade from Microsoft late last year and I have had no problems with it as I am an easy adaptor to things. I started out on Windows 3.1 twenty one years ago and I have used virtually all versions since. I will admit Windows 95 was a favorite of mine and one I used a lot back in the day... once you get used to things it's not that bad... on my netbook, my backup computer I still have XP but need to find something that I can use. The netbook is not powerful enough to run anything other than XP as it was designed for XP.

I got lucky in 2012 to be given for Christmas a new laptop computer and was really surprised in November when Microsoft gave me a FREE upgrade to 8.1! Thing I like about 8.1 is the fact I can go directly to my desktop rather than have to deal with the tiles on start-up.

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that matter is up for debate, i have toyed with it extensivly. everything about it is flipping annoying, i have yet to find a way to hack the system so i can modify it to my specs.

my opinion is actually the opposite of yours windows 8.1 is in my opinion the WORST OS they have made. i will stick with Windows 7 untill they either realise that Xbox dashboard needs to stay on xbox and go back to a desktop, or Valve finally gets universal Support for Steam OS.

Well you certainly are not the standard user,...

I've been into computer stuff for like 25 odd years - am able to write software in a few languages, done some web stuff and have no trouble assembling my own hardware.
Back at school when I had plenty time ;) - it was kind of fun too... but these days I need my PCs & Macs for WORK mostly and some private internet & photo-editing use.
But I simply have neither the time nor the interest to "hack" the OS to any degree or tinker with the hardware.
I buy my stuff - maybe components if I need that extra "omph" - but I'm certainly not going to bother with modding an operating system.
(mind you I've made my own Linux Kernels years ago - I've got an idea of how that works - but simply lack the interest and time)

And the average user certainly isn't willing or capable to modify any OS to the point where you say you've taken XP.
And despite all the mods, XP Stays a sad 32bit implementation (16 in some) based on MS-DOS heavily with a horrible FAT16 (or32) File-System, rights management, memory management, etc.
And no hack in the world is going to change any of that to a point where its truly implemented.

I believe you, that you've managed to get XP running "stable"... but "off the shelve" XP is just plain outdated crap.
 
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Microsoft is in the business of making money. Without new products, and new revenue streams, they're done. Its not reasonable for them to support a dwindling user base of old products forever. Once they've stopped support, you really don't dare use an XP box on the internet, so its time to move on. That said, I've never been much of a Microsoft fan, so I look for opportunities to avoid contributing to their revenue stream. I've always been suspicious about the proportions of revenue stream vs. actual improvement in their new releases. Even if there were significant changes in behind-the-scenes workings, I was annoyed by the changes in menu structure that seemed to be there only to give technically illiterate users the impression they were getting something new. As for 8 ..... touchscreens are for toddlers. Great when you've figured out how to control an index finger but not much else. Should be a big hit here.

I had to make a similar decision a while back with my Windows '98 machine when support was discontinued. No virus protection, no internet. I cleaned up Junior's old XP desktop and started using that, although the Windows '98 machine is still useable and used offline for a few things. XP spared me the decision by going belly up a couple years ago. Without recovery disks (God only knows what Junior did with those), the machine became a doorstop. It was too dated to support a newer Windows OS, or even justify the cost. On a lark, I tried installing Ubuntu. Its been working great ever since. In fact, I'm typing this on it now. There's limitations to be sure, mostly due to hardware, but for general purpose office functions, web surfing, and as a repository for my music collection (with the addition of a larger hard drive), it works just dandy. It seems to think and work like I do much better than any of the Windows versions I've dealt with.

I've also got a Vista desktop that I bought when the XP machine initially went belly up. I wasn't sure at that point if it was hardware or OS problems, and I needed something ASAP for business reasons. Unfortunately, that was mere weeks before Windows 7 released and I couldn't wait. Vista is no picnic, but it does what I need to do well enough that the cost of upgrade isn't justified. At this point, the hardware is old enough that I'd be better off going to a new OS with a new machine. That will probably happen when 32bit becomes officially obsolete.
 

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Well you certainly are not the standard user,...

I've been into computer stuff for like 25 odd years - am able to write software in a few languages, done some web stuff and have no trouble assembling my own hardware.
Back at school when I had plenty time ;) - it was kind of fun too... but these days I need my PCs & Macs for WORK mostly and some private internet & photo-editing use.
But I simply have neither the time nor the interest to "hack" the OS to any degree or tinker with the hardware.
I buy my stuff - maybe components if I need that extra "omph" - but I'm certainly not going to bother with modding an operating system.
(mind you I've made my own Linux Kernels years ago - I've got an idea of how that works - but simply lack the interest and time)

And the average user certainly isn't willing or capable to modify any OS to the point where you say you've taken XP.
And despite all the mods, XP Stays a sad 32bit implementation (16 in some) based on MS-DOS heavily with a horrible FAT16 (or32) File-System, rights management, memory management, etc.
And no hack in the world is going to change any of that to a point where its truly implemented.

I believe you, that you've managed to get XP running "stable"... but "off the shelve" XP is just plain outdated crap.

true i am not the standard user. and ill agree that off the shelf XP was horrible.
 
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