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Okay, I'll admit this is a bit of a rant, but hoping it can be a productive one at that.

With the prevalence of tablets, smart phones, and so on, it seems that people have gotten lazier and lazier in using at least somewhat proper English and spelling. Quite frankly it gets really annoying when you see posts, which consist of:
u in place of you, r in place of are, major spelling errors, cutting off ending (e.g. hangin, likin, lovin, etc.), and "txt speak"

I'm not saying people need to be perfect, and certainly I know I'm not close to it, but it is nice when people at least show they are willing to try. Most browsers I've used have a spell checker, as do smart phones, and if you are on a laptop or computer you can always make a post in Microsoft Word (or Open Office) and use that spell checker.

To the thread title and the hope of turning this into something productive, here is why it is important (in my opinion): When people post in "txt speak" and are throwing major spelling errors all over the place, using U and R, and so on, it gives me the impression that they are either lazy or more likely stupid. In other words it gives off a bad impression compared to people who seem to make an attempt at typing correctly.

You can say it is wrong, but it is just the truth. We don't know everyone, and your persona on here can establish peoples thoughts about you. One of the big things, again my opinion, that effects that is how you post. If you are posting like someone sending a text message (which by the way, typing R instead of are on a phone does not take more time. I type on my phone like I do on here and it doesn't take anymore time then shortening every other word) then it is going to look like you are lazy, or worse stupid, don't care, etc. Just like if you are running around yelling at everyone and calling them jerks is going to make you look..well stupid too and mean/cruel, what have you.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I know peoples post have definitely created an image of them in my head. Maybe they are completely different in real life, but I don't know them there and so what I've collected from their posts is what "they are," so to speak, to me. I wouldn't be shocked if others are the same either.

So to tie back into what I'm saying, you aren't really saving any time talkin like u r ina rush, you are just creating a negative impression to anyone who evens even a little bit of a shit about spelling and grammar. No expects people here to be as good as an English major, or follow the letter of the er..language law by the book, but at least look like you are trying. Yes, there are people who have disabilities which make it difficult. I think though most members understand that and do give plenty of leeway in their errors because they aren't their fault. If you are just too lazy to spell check or type out "you," I feel you shouldn't be given the leeway most give on here already. But it isn't my place, and I think it hurts opinions enough anyways.

Basically, don't be lazy, don't post like you are sending a text to a buddy (and even when you are sending a text to a buddy, it is a good idea to use English there too, just saying) and try to show you kind of care.
 

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While i do agree with you on this we live in a world where text style has taken over and i myself don't spell all my words the way they should be spelled but what does annoy me is the text talk that you cant understand lol
 

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Okay, I'll admit this is a bit of a rant, but hoping it can be a productive one at that.

With the prevalence of tablets, smart phones, and so on, it seems that people have gotten lazier and lazier in using at least somewhat proper English and spelling. Quite frankly it gets really annoying when you see posts, which consist of:
u in place of you, r in place of are, major spelling errors, cutting off ending (e.g. hangin, likin, lovin, etc.), and "txt speak"

I'm not saying people need to be perfect, and certainly I know I'm not close to it, but it is nice when people at least show they are willing to try. Most browsers I've used have a spell checker, as do smart phones, and if you are on a laptop or computer you can always make a post in Microsoft Word (or Open Office) and use that spell checker.

To the thread title and the hope of turning this into something productive, here is why it is important (in my opinion): When people post in "txt speak" and are throwing major spelling errors all over the place, using U and R, and so on, it gives me the impression that they are either lazy or more likely stupid. In other words it gives off a bad impression compared to people who seem to make an attempt at typing correctly.

You can say it is wrong, but it is just the truth. We don't know everyone, and your persona on here can establish peoples thoughts about you. One of the big things, again my opinion, that effects that is how you post. If you are posting like someone sending a text message (which by the way, typing R instead of are on a phone does not take more time. I type on my phone like I do on here and it doesn't take anymore time then shortening every other word) then it is going to look like you are lazy, or worse stupid, don't care, etc. Just like if you are running around yelling at everyone and calling them jerks is going to make you look..well stupid too and mean/cruel, what have you.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I know peoples post have definitely created an image of them in my head. Maybe they are completely different in real life, but I don't know them there and so what I've collected from their posts is what "they are," so to speak, to me. I wouldn't be shocked if others are the same either.

So to tie back into what I'm saying, you aren't really saving any time talkin like u r ina rush, you are just creating a negative impression to anyone who evens even a little bit of a shit about spelling and grammar. No expects people here to be as good as an English major, or follow the letter of the er..language law by the book, but at least look like you are trying. Yes, there are people who have disabilities which make it difficult. I think though most members understand that and do give plenty of leeway in their errors because they aren't their fault. If you are just too lazy to spell check or type out "you," I feel you shouldn't be given the leeway most give on here already. But it isn't my place, and I think it hurts opinions enough anyways.

Basically, don't be lazy, don't post like you are sending a text to a buddy (and even when you are sending a text to a buddy, it is a good idea to use English there too, just saying) and try to show you kind of care.

I totally agree with you on spelling. I'm totally old old school. All we had when I started school was pencil's, paper, and our books. Allbeit spelling,english, arithmatic,geography, and history. We started with fountain pens.
Then along came ball point pens. I still have trouble reading and trying to understand this type of writing in text or whatever else is used these days.
 
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Man, I totally agree with this! I try to do well with my grammar, but I know I am sadly lacking. But that was very well said, I must agree. I would post the same thing if I had thought to make a post about it :} Sadly, most people do only use text talk now a days, and it's almost no use trying to fix it.

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Spellin an typin sux! We are here to discuss diapers not the finer points of the English language. Now that I've finally gotten a XP capable computer and Google Chrome My spelling is corrected I'm less ashamed of my posts but still the topic is diapers not English class.
 

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Okay, I'll admit this is a bit of a rant, but hoping it can be a productive one at that.

With the prevalence of tablets, smart phones, and so on, it seems that people have gotten lazier and lazier in using at least somewhat proper English and spelling. Quite frankly it gets really annoying when you see posts, which consist of:
u in place of you, r in place of are, major spelling errors, cutting off ending (e.g. hangin, likin, lovin, etc.), and "txt speak"

*Snip*

I'm with you all the way on this one. It's even worse when I see stories online that contain the aforementioned mistakes. (Plus several dozen more that are pointed out in my writing guides :p )

However, if I may be nit-picky here, in regards to cutting off the ending, sometimes I encourage it. Now hear me out first... I'm speaking more as a writer on this stance, and thinking that the post in question may be a story post (hypothetically speaking) and cutting the ending of a word may be how the character speaks, especially if he/she is from the lower forty-eight where it's common to do it. Yet in this case I prefer to see the following: Lovin' Hangin' Diggin' Howlin' etc. Notice the apostrophe at the ends of the words.
 

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However, if I may be nit-picky here, in regards to cutting off the ending, sometimes I encourage it. Now hear me out first... I'm speaking more as a writer on this stance, and thinking that the post in question may be a story post (hypothetically speaking) and cutting the ending of a word may be how the character speaks, especially if he/she is from the lower forty-eight where it's common to do it. Yet in this case I prefer to see the following: Lovin' Hangin' Diggin' Howlin' etc. Notice the apostrophe at the ends of the words.

Story wise I think it makes sense though, as people do have a habit of cutting off endings sometimes (be it unaware or not). Agree it should be with an apostrophe at the end, been the way I tend to see it usually. In non-stories over the internet, I still stand by what I said =p.
 

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Regardless (not 'irregardless') of how infuriating it is to use a phone to type out proper English, spelling punctuation and all, I make an effort to make sure each of my posts, be they on Facebook, ADISC, or elsewhere, are as perfect as I can make 'em. I simply cannot tolerate common mistakes on my posts. It just bothers me. Though there are times when I get too lazy to change there simple mistakes on a phone and hope most others don't take notice. X3
I'm with you all the way on this one. It's even worse when I see stories online that contain the aforementioned mistakes. (Plus several dozen more that are pointed out in my writing guides :p )

However, if I may be nit-picky here, in regards to cutting off the ending, sometimes I encourage it. Now hear me out first... I'm speaking more as a writer on this stance, and thinking that the post in question may be a story post (hypothetically speaking) and cutting the ending of a word may be how the character speaks, especially if he/she is from the lower forty-eight where it's common to do it. Yet in this case I prefer to see the following: Lovin' Hangin' Diggin' Howlin' etc. Notice the apostrophe at the ends of the words.

I'm with this 100%. For various dialects, it works. I'm also in agreement regarding usage of typing a word in such a way as to convey that you yourself are speaking to other users in a your own dialect, such as the well-known Southern English dialect. I have even been known to use this dialect when I type online. But with proper punctuation, of course. :3
 

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Spellin an typin sux! We are here to discuss diapers not the finer points of the English language. Now that I've finally gotten a XP capable computer and Google Chrome My spelling is corrected I'm less ashamed of my posts but still the topic is diapers not English class.
You're wrong on all counts, I'm afraid.
This is the 'off-topic' section of the forums (i.e. specifically not for diaper discussions) and this is a spelling topic.
The very valid point that the original poster is putting, is that people should make an effort to ensure that their various writing are at least easily comprehensible. We realise that people have differing standards of grammar and spelling, not least because of the differences between American English and British English used within this forum, but the standards are there so that people can communicate effectively. Stray too far from these and communication breaks down.
The following is taken from a Facebook friend's timeline. The only thing I have altered is the name referred to. Some of her posts are so bad I have read them three or four times just to work out what she is trying to say.

"Wat a morning every way poss t school grid lockt wiv traffic so turnd round t come bk ome t walk t school only just got bk in Donna late but still smiling as a piggy bkt her part of the way oley moley "
 

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I don’t give a rat’s behind about spelling and grammar. The primary purpose of language is communication, and as long you’re understandable, you’re doing it right. English is an abstract, and it’s prone to change. Which is okay. I don’t see why we should shun people who warp the current language norms as if they have leprosy.
 

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Exemplia Gratia:
tts ths pcise wat im say priods n vwls n wle wrd r lk tot pid n dmb n1 nds thse thgs
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icouldtotallystealapagefromtheromansandleavenospacesbetweenwordssothatunlessyoureallyknowwhatimtryingtosaytheresnowaytoknowwherethewordbreaksare

There is a difference between linguistic evolution and being too lazy to create understandable text.
 
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There is a difference between linguistic evolution and being too lazy to create understandable text.
That sums it all up rather nicely right there.

If you want to be understood, you must communicate in a way that the person or object on the other end of the conversation can understand you. If not, then all you have is an incoherent transmission. Incoherent by definition means: lacking normal clarity or intelligibility in speech or thought. Now, If people can understand you when you type 'txt' style, then you are communicating. However, if people can not understand you, your communication is not as effective. It's pretty simple really.

I agree with the OP in that an attempt at proper English on a forum that is predominately written in English would be a smart thing to do if you want to maximize the effectiveness of your communication.

just my :twocents:
 

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The primary purpose of language is communication, and as long you’re understandable, you’re doing it right.

Yes but I'd rather not have to sit there and work out what that person was trying to actually convey from their post, I can read and understand a properly typed post immediately but if you start abbreviating every word that you use I have to work out what each word is and it takes three times as long to work out, what should be, a very simple post.
 

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I don’t give a rat’s behind about spelling and grammar. The primary purpose of language is communication, and as long you’re understandable, you’re doing it right. English is an abstract, and it’s prone to change. Which is okay. I don’t see why we should shun people who warp the current language norms as if they have leprosy.
Thank you! If you do not like what you see do not read it.
How hard it that.
 
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If you do not like what you see do not read it.
How hard it that.

True, but if the person would ever wonder why they aren't getting as much feedback as they'd like, this cause could be why. I'm not a spelling or grammar nazi, but if it's too unreadable, I'll do just as your said and skip it, and more than likely subsequent posts by the same person. Reason being is that I would assume that subsequent posts would be just a difficult to decipher and read.
 

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I try my best to spell and use grammer well. But I feel like since I was 15 it was like whatever words I learned to spell by then has been kept and I haven't learned much new since :p. And my grammer is terrible, english was one of my worst subjects when I was in school. Math was my best lol
 
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yea, spelling is very impotent....

and so too is make allowances cultural differences in verbiage and how that translates out into english... not just for different far-flung parts of the world, but the subtle differences between the english spoken in the UK, Canada and the US... Oh, and lets not forget about or be intolerant of, how very differently english is spoken in different parts of the US.... having all over this land and Canada, i have experienced this first hand (if that makes any difference).

when i read the different posts, i try to remember that with each avatar comes a locality that is not likely to be were i live... and because of that; the person behind that avatar is not likely to think or talk the way that i think and talk... this could be as simple as me having been born and living most of my life out here on the left-coast in the Puget Sound area.... and reading some fellow from Missouri.... have you ever been back there? those folks don't exactly sound like left-coasters... and i can hear it in their writings at times. i have an ear for such things...

Ok, so now lets add autism into this picture, shall we. that can have all sorts of effects on folks writings. from making them horribly literal to uncomfortably honest.... it can also effect their spelling and their use of complicated things such as "homonyms"..... i am terribly autistic and stuff like that messes me up all the bloody time.

we also have the few folks that i don't think speak english at all, and must use a translator program... those are very easy to spot... at lest for me....

i am not saying that reading all the different styles of writing on ADISC is a walk-in-the-park for me... is most certainly isn't. but i give it a good old Navy try! i know that my writing isn't very good either. but if i want to be understood, then i try to understand others... that is the best i can do.

i would hope that those one letter words would not get used at all, but it's not for me to judge another persons lack of writing skill or the effort they put into their writing... maybe that style is the wave of the future, who knows.... all i know is i will still do my best to be understood.... and understand those around me....

lodge wrecker...

PS... spell-checkers are wonderful, but even they screw-up when a person is autistic... (big grin)
 

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My saying is that if you say plz because it is shorter than please, I will say no, because it is shorter than yes.
 

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My saying is that if you say plz because it is shorter than please, I will say no, because it is shorter than yes.

classic!

as a defender of freedom of expression, i have to say, "be careful what you wish for", for written words are the visual manifestation of thought.
in an era in which many are educated beyond their abilities, isn't there already enough well-written rubbish to sift through?

at least if something looks like rubbish, you can be reasonably assured that it is rubbish.
 
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