Who do you want to vote for and why, for the next president of 2020 (United States)

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Please note anyone can edit Wikipedia post. All they ask is permission. So they could edit so CutePrincess was part of the Uranium one Controversy. Thats if the person good at doing it. That including Democrats or Republicans.
 

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Well first of all it goes to my first post, but I can detail a bit more I guess.

One single person is not going to have all the answers, that is a huge flag from the get go that trump thinks he does. This is why I had a reply to someone on "propose a better system" It is one thing to say a system is messed up, and another to figure out a better working one.

So where does this leave us? We need someone willing to work with people and lead. This is where trump falls short on and not really giving us a benefit. It is always blame dems for this, blame dems for that.. he is not LEADING. We need a leader that can shrink the political divide and unite people, so we can have reasonable, civil discussions. We will not be able to have free carry what ever we want for guns, but same time flat out banning them will also not work with our diversity with open land for hunting and such. What works in the open rural areas is not going to work in a dense populated urban area. We may not have full banning abortions, but we can curb the need for it, set up abortion subsidization and such... cuz I will say this now, flat out banning abortions will just lead people trying to do it on their own and harming themselves in the process.

You are not going to get anywhere with both sides tinfoiling each other! You need to work out issues based what other representatives and the population has to say so we can figure out the best solutions. For example:
"Selling uranium to russia " that is spun out of control by the right/ alt right. At the time with what was going on, Hilary did nothing wrong.
look at the references here on who made it an issue, the ALT RIGHT! Breitbart News is fake alt right nonsense and should be ignored whenever used as a reference.

I did more research on that and I forget the details now but there was trade regulations and other things that at the time of that deal was not in effect and perfectly normal.

You are not going to get anywhere having 2 extreme viewpoints making up conspiracy theories on each other.
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when is this thread gonna just die already...Haven't people had enough of the senseless bickering?
 

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when is this thread gonna just die already...Haven't people had enough of the senseless bickering?
Some if use are actually open minded and havin good conversation, with out attacking others
 

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when is this thread gonna just die already...Haven't people had enough of the senseless bickering?
That's your opinion, but wouldn't it be best to let the thread die a natural death when no one wants to offer any more opinions?
 

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They absolutely all suck...

Bernie / Elizabeth will rob you blind while telling you they are giving you free education/healthcare. Nothing is free, its just redistributing who/how it is paid. Anyone buying this story needs to have their head examined. Yeah, Europe has free healthcare. It also has a 40%+ tax rate to pay for it and you wait months to see a doctor. No thanks.

Trump never was right in the head, but he truly has lost his marbles at this point. A terrible role model who constantly lies and bullies people. How he emerged as the forerunner of the primaries is sad. The weak excuse for a human being is shallow and truly only concerned for himself. I have no question of a doubt he would throw his own children under a bus to save his butt.

Biden just presents himself as a dull and tired. I doubt he would be able to energize people enough to get anything accomplished.

Democrats are dangerously moving to a socialist party, but while they want all the benefits, they don’t want to pay the burden. It doesn’t work. Republicans only care about making themselves rich and are socially way too conservative with topics like abortion, guns, equality, etc.

I imagine the vast majority of the country would prefer to vote for an independent that is not bound to party, financially conservative (i.e. no big government expenses/projects), and socially liberal. The do what makes you happy as long as you aren’t hurting others model. You know where as an adult you are ultimately responsible for surviving in the world. The problem is no one would vote for said candidate because it would be taking away a vote against the Republican or Democrat that they hate more.

And even though it hurts my own party to suggest this, we should abolish the EC. Candidates only care about a few swing states as a result of it and it discourages individuals like myself from voting as we know our state is already solid one way or another.
Tax rate in UK is 25%
 

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Please note anyone can edit Wikipedia post. All they ask is permission. So they could edit so CutePrincess was part of the Uranium one Controversy. Thats if the person good at doing it. That including Democrats or Republicans.
But if you do not supply sources the admins delete sharpish
 

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Not voting for anyone! The game is clearly rigged and it's time for another revolution to restore the orginal foundation! The parasites must be arrested and removed by the military and that goes for both parties! Especially if any of these creeps were involved with pedophile and Jeffrey Epstein! We've had plenty evidence to put alot them away for a very long time!

Many of us like myself have printed physical copies of the wikileak emails and filed them! The problem is they ignore the evidence cause lots judges, prosecuters, police are also bought off and corrupt.
 

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Tax rate in UK is 25%
Ha... that’s funny, You think they can do free healthcare at 25%? Not even close. It’s 40% if you make £50k ($63k) or more. And it’s 46% if you make £150k or more. In addition to income tax, they also have consumption/VAT tax which is similar to sales tax, but unlike 6% where I live, its 20%. So yeah, definitely 40%+.

It is impossible to offer all the promises of the democrat party without a significant tax increase.

 

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I cannot fathom why people hate politics
I guess because of all the lies, the hate, and the fact that they often seem to be all as bad as each other.

People saying politics is boring puzzles me, though, as it’s about issues that affect everyone’s lives.
 

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Maybe I am just too intellectually inferior to understand
I wouldn’t necessarily go as far as to suggest that. However, it is important that one realizes whether its messaging from the a Democratic or a Republican they all have a secret agenda. I for one believe people should have to take a bipartisanship quiz or something before being allowed to vote. Would make for very interesting results.
 
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But if you do not supply sources the admins delete sharpish
Not true. It says “source needed”. Besides a source could be another wiki article or just a random Wordpress blog.
 

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Not true. It says “source needed”. Besides a source could be another wiki article or just a random Wordpress blog.
Blogs are not considered reputable sources on Wikipedia unless the blog is from a expert in field
 

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Unfortunatly we have people out there trying to use Politics to create Anarchy and Lawlessness.
I guess you mean Sanders and Warren, I swear Americans do not understand the difference between democratic socialism and Communism
 
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