What is this world coming to.

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Ok I had to wait a day or two before I could really post on this because it hit me so hard. The other day I was driving to work, and was passing a school that was letting out. This was a High school and all of the students seem to park down the street at the BJ's so not to have to pay me suppose. The point is there was a group of over 50 students walking down the street. I was going slowly because many of them were crossing the street with no care to the traffic. Though out of the corner of my eye I saw that one other the students was holding something under his oversized shirt.

From here it all seems like a movie, moving in slow motion. I had an idea what it was though saw the teen walking by his friends and giving the "hey watch this' motion. Only to pull out a hand gun and point it "gangster style" at a boy walking in front of him.:frown:

He fired twice at the boy. Once was in the leg and the boy fell to the ground. The second was at the fallen boys back, though I do not know were because by this point the teens are all running in and across the street to get away. I am doing my best to stay calm and not hit anyone. The gunner then ran across the street and into an apartment complex.

As if this was not bad enough I, the shooting of one student by another, I pull into the parking lot that all the kids are pulling out of very quickly. I am trying to call 911 once I do so I wait for the police and Medic. The thing that made me angry is that There were other cars around me, and 3 school busses pulling out of the school. All saw what happened, though I was the only one of the 60+ people that was there to call 911.

Kids around here are even able to have Cell phones in High School though I was the only person that thought that this event needed to be reported.

The next day I was told that the boy that was shot was going to be ok, though they have not caught the shooter.
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We all need a cool head in such situations, and I'm glad you are one :)

I hope I will be one too when such a situation arises.
 

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Thats why they need concealed carry permits is so people would be able to protect themselves in this screwed uip world
 
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Holy ****ing Shit. You hear about it all the time, but never in your wildest dreams do you expect to witness such a thing with your own eyes. I sure hope they catch that little bastard and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. Other than that, it just makes me incredibly glad that I live in country where there is insanely strict gun control. Even nowadays I feel confident that I can walk down the street and not get gunned down.

But I'm certainly not going to point the finger here. Surely the media will get their grubby hands on it and spin it out of proportion, but I tend not to listen to that anymore. All I can say is, and I've felt this for a long time now, but if kids can get their hands on firearms and as a result there's been many incidents, then shouldn't there be a review of gun safety and regulation? That just seems like common sense and the logical thing to do. Put patriotism aside for a moment and consider your own damn well-being. Do you really trust other people that much?
 

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Well gun controle asside, I have my own issues with that topic and I have pointed it out a number of times in other threads.

I find the worst part of it that I was the only one that seemed to care, not the news only has a 30 sec blurb about it Once time at the 11 oclock news. I watched for 2 hours hoping to see somthing about it, they were far more interested in the rain and wearher of the day. THough I will be honest we did have flooding, though you would think a shooting just off school grounds of one student by another would at least be worth pointing out. Yet it seems we are all so worried about our selves that once people knew they were no longer in danger they went about their day.....
 

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No one wants to 'get involved'. I'm glad I live in an area that is still small enough that people 'stop to help'.

A couple years ago a small child (about 2 yrs) was bitten on the face/head by the family dog while his grandma was putting groceries in the back of the van. The grandma screamed and screamed...a man stopped his car in the middle of the roadway (into the shopping centre)...turned on his four-ways...leaped out of the car, grabbed the baby...screamed "CALL 911" and ran into the pharmacy section of the store. I gave another woman who I'd been talking to...my cell phone (I didn't know how to call 911....I guess I was in shock)

I never did hear how things turned out for the lil boy. I hope he didn't have any permanent scarring.

Thats why they need concealed carry permits is so people would be able to protect themselves in this screwed uip world
THAT is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. What they NEED is metal detectors in schools so kids can't bring in guns/knives/etc!

If every other kid had a gun, there would have been more blood shed...mass chaos...and people would have ended up DEAD!
 

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I think there's something seriously f*cked up going on there. No one should consider it "cool" when their "friends" bring a gun to school and show it around. It should make everyone jump and run for help before that "friend" could do any harm. The same applies to any other weapons.

But I think society as a whole is heading the in the direction of "see if I care?"...and pretty fast!
Last year, two young adults beat up an old man in the Munich subway because he asked them to stop smoking (smoking is obviously not allowed). A few weeks ago they got sentenced to 15 and 8 years in prison, respectively, and they'll face eviction from this country once they get out. However, beats me what goes through people's head to try to kill someone because he dared to remind you of the no smoking rule.
With the easy availability of guns, problems like that will probably be taken to the next level in the U.S., resulting in gun shooting rather than a fist fight. But as someone pointed out - this isn't the time to argue about guns.

Personally, I think parents need to show more responsibility for their children and teach them morals. No metal detector or gun control law will stop anyone from being aggressive and hurting others if that person assigns to value to other people's lives or opinion. Respect doesn't fall from the sky - it has to be taught, and preferably right from birth, with constant reminders.

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This is absolutly discusting; I'm happy the boy that was shot is ok. I blame two things on this. 1) Rap music and 2) the paretns. All I ever see now are rappers talking about shooting people and having sex, something really needs to be done. Then there's the parents, parents arn't watching there kids close enough. A good example of that is what I saw a few days ago.

There was a story on the news a few days ago about a 16 yr old at an alternitive high school to give kids somewhat of a second chance and the boy planned to use a firedrill as a blueprint to acomplish something that would rival Calumbind. He even put a message on his MySpace page saying "I really really hate everyone at school and i'm going to do something about it but for real this time." Thankfuly students found out and the boy was arested before any of that could take place.

When police looked through this house they found 28, yes 28 guns! When his parents were questioned they had no idea! I am just thankful that those kids told someone and stopped that from happening. It scares me that i'm seeing this now because its only going to get worse if something doesn't change and weather your a teen now or your an adult on here with kids they will end up paying the price.

That is why when i'm a parent in the years to come I will be involved with my kids and will be sure to watch them but i'm not going to hang over their sholder all the time. I will raise them so they know what to do if an issue like this comes up.
 

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That is not a pleasant story. It is truly sad that teenage violence has become quite the norm as of late and killings by teens are almost normal. It is simply horrible. I am glad to hear that you had the decency to stop and help, because that's decency that most of humanity seems to lack, especially when fear comes into play.
 
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THOUGHTS OF MR ALEX:

This world is made of fail, this is why it has no reason to exist any more. If you murder/shoot someone to be cool, you my friend, need to be killed, and removed from society.

The kid that did the shooting was clearly an idiot, I believe we have established that. Personally, I think, I'm not sure, but I hope, in that situation, I would try to stop the person with the gun, I hate this life a bit, for some reason I can't seem to be motivated to do well in school, I can't seem to get any sexins, and I don't really know if I will ever make some sort of impact on society. Therefore, my life, doesn't really matter that much to me, I'm sure the ****tard with the gun had NO IDEA about it and didn't know much about it, and could probably be snuck up on and have the gun ripped out of his hands, I'm surprised everyone was too much of a pussy to do anything about it. After all aren't there more halfway suicidal people that want to do something with their life like me? Someone should have ripped his gun away from him and killed him instead. Poor kid that got shot, he was probably a cool guy. If you do a school shooting, you can't just kill everyone, just select people that you hate, innocent people that you don't hate have no reason to get bulleted.
 

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This is absolutly discusting; I'm happy the boy that was shot is ok. I blame two things on this. 1) Rap music and 2) the paretns. All I ever see now are rappers talking about shooting people and having sex, something really needs to be done. Then there's the parents, parents arn't watching there kids close enough.

I don't know if I should really get into a conversation about the causes of something like this, since it's such a sensitive subject.

But...while I agree with you about parents being at fault, if you're going to blame rap music, then you might as well blame violent movies and video games as well. Violent rap has been around since at least the early 90's, probably some in the 80's. If a rap song is going to influence violence among kids, then I think GTA games where they can actually emulate criminal acts would influence them just as easily.

But I still think it boils down to parents more than anything else. There are plenty of people who have watched violent movies, played violent video games, and listened to rap music since they were little kids who think this is just as horrible as anyone else.
 

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This is absolutly discusting; I'm happy the boy that was shot is ok. I blame two things on this. 1) Rap music and 2) the paretns. All I ever see now are rappers talking about shooting people and having sex, something really needs to be done. Then there's the parents, parents arn't watching there kids close enough.
I can't blame the parent yet because even though you have the nicest, caring parent in the world, the kid might still grew up doing this type of stuff...As for blames rap music on this, how do you know that the kid listen to rap music? It seem these days that people are using music, video game, t.v., movies, etc. as a scapegoats for the problem in the world. Back during the columbine shooting, they were blaming Marilyn Manson music for shooting...I listen to rock, rap, etc. music and I never went to my school and shoot someone, hell I got out of school early then everyone else because I have enough credits and I also graduated from my school as well.

Even though I done some dumbass stuff before like stealing from a store or smoking pot, I don't blame the music that I listen to or anything. It my fault that I did that stuff not my parent or anything. Just in this case, it was the kid fault that he shoot that other kid, no one told him to do it or anything.
 

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I can't blame the parent yet because even though you have the nicest, caring parent in the world, the kid might still grew up doing this type of stuff...

Even though I done some dumbass stuff before like stealing from a store or smoking pot, I don't blame the music that I listen to or anything. It my fault that I did that stuff not my parent or anything. Just in this case, it was the kid fault that he shoot that other kid, no one told him to do it or anything.
I agree with you in some ways and in some ways I don't.

First of all, I do agree that lots of kids from "good" families do things like drink, smoke pot, and maybe even minor theft and things of that nature.

I also agree that it is possible for kids from "bad" families can turn out to be wonderful people, just like kids from "good" families can end up doing things like this.

But...that is the exception. It is much more likely for a kid to do something like this if he/she has parents who have gotten too caught up in work or other things instead of truly getting to know their kids and spend time with them.

I'm not saying parenting is an easy job. I don't have kids, and I know that as of right now I'm not ready to.

But...when you do decide to have kids, that is a responsibility, and to at least some degree you are responsible for what they do. In general, the more parents truly love their children, spend time with them, and teach them the right things, the more likely it is that the kids will turn out okay (not perfect, but okay).
 

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I'm really glad that you were smart enough to call 911, I myself probably would have paniced and tried to get as far away from the shooter as possible
 

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Accolades to you, LuvsGurl, for doing the right thing. :thumbsup: I can understand your having to get yourself together emotionally before you could even post what happened. It had to be an absolute shock to witness something horrible like a shooting.:frown: It's a distant memory now, but I remember when school students were armed with nothing more than pens, pencils, and rulers, with which to attack their academic subjects. You were really considered to be "bad" if you carried a miniature pocket knife!

You're right about the lack of info in the media. We're only two states away and didn't hear a thing on the news. Usually school shootings are well publicized. Sad to say, but I guess there wasn't enough students injured or killed to get the news reporter's and network's attention off other things going on.:frown:

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Well I supose that the reson it was not in the news that much is that it was not realy a school shooting. It was just of school grounds, across the street were all the students park at the store so not to pay for a parking tag.

Though to those that are talking about the rap I will put in this. I will blame a lot of violence on Rap and such things and here is why. In todays sosity we are all about image. Girls think they have to look like supermodels to be "normal" "sexy" or any thing that will make them popular, Boys are told from birth that they have to be tough, play football, not cry..... and when you are a young black male those people you see mostly making it to the top and being called "men" are rappers, Thug looking and always in trouble. It is not only about being Cool but about Being a "MAN". I know this, though it never makes you feel better to know about it.
 

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The thing that made me angry is that There were other cars around me, and 3 school busses pulling out of the school. All saw what happened, though I was the only one of the 60+ people that was there to call 911.

Kids around here are even able to have Cell phones in High School though I was the only person that thought that this event needed to be reported.
Human psychology at work. A person could be murdered near a large crowd, and because there are so many people around, no one will do anything. It's been proven in tests, and it has happened in real life situations. It's the "Oh, someone else will do something else about it" mentality. It's not your problem, why should you have to worry about it?

That said, there are the few individuals out there who will go against the norm and help these people.
 
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........Wow i would have freaked the **** out. But good thing you was calm. We have lots of that but with out guns. i dont get it.
 
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What kind of tests? how could you simulate that, barring matrix style virtual reality.... (?)
 

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What kind of tests? how could you simulate that, barring matrix style virtual reality.... (?)
Bystander effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The bystander effect (also known as bystander apathy, Genovese syndrome, diffused responsibility or bystander intervention) is a psychological phenomenon in which someone is less likely to intervene in an emergency situation when other people are present and able to help than when he or she is alone.
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A 1968 study by John Darley, now a professor at Princeton University's Department of Psychology, and Bibb Latane first demonstrated the bystander effect in the laboratory. They ran some simple studies such as the following: A participant is placed alone in a room and is told he can communicate with other participants through an intercom. In reality, he is just listening to an audio recording and is told his microphone will be off until it is his turn to speak. During the recording, one participant suddenly pretends he is having a seizure. The study found that how long the participant waits before alerting the experimenter varies directly with the perceived number of other participants. In some cases, the participant never told the experimenter.
Basicly, when you are the only person around to help, you feel 100% responsible for what happens. But when you are with 9 other people, you (and everyone else) only feel 10% responsible.
 
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