I ordered my first pack of abena m4s yesterday. It just shipped today. I should have then by Friday. They were shipped and sold by Amazon so I'm hoping the packaging is discreet.
I to started with Abena diapers when I had to wear taped diapers for an OAB issue, they are a great diaper but I have found that dry 24/7's are a better choice for me.
I always felt a bit wet when using the Abena air plus m4's and the diaper always felt damp to the touch sice it is a cloth backed diaper.
The Abena m4's were also my *1st "real diaper" I still wear them today.
The plastic backed version is a diaper staple in my supply, I always have M4's on hand, they do a great job.
When I 1st got them those diapers were only worn at night or in the confines of my house, they seemed super thick on me. Now after years of wearing and many other diaper brands the Abena m4 is my primary day time diaper, nothing has changed on them, other diaper just got better.