Sitchin graduated from the London School of Economics, University of London, majoring in economic history. Doesn't sound very much like an archeologist to me.
He was a scientist, but I don't remember him ever saying anything about hieroglyphs and ancient technology.
Cayce was a mystic, and did no research and was in no way a scientist.
As near as I can find, this guy doesn't seem to have any sort of formal education at all.
Michael Tsarion Threatens to Kick Chris White?s Ass for Exposing Him | Outlaw News
Hancock graduated from Durham University in 1973, receiving a First Class Honours degree in Sociology. He only learned how to dive recently, and is not a Oceanographer. (He learned to dive to examine some alleged ruins off Japan.)
None of these people have any formal training in archeology.
Jordan Maxwell: ???????????? you never mentioned him
Sitchin: is defiantly archeologist's don't know were u got that information, hes
on the history channel, discovery channel and lots of other tv shows. I doubt they would lie that hes archeologist's they would get sued in a second for misinformation like that.
Carl Sagan: Yes he only talked about it once on a episode on the cosmos but
defiantly seemed open minded to this stuff.
Edygar Cayce: Yes i know hes not a researcher or scientists but the topics he wrote about had alot of truth to them but ill leave him out of this discussion
Graham Hancock: U might be right about him not being oceangrapher but he is defiantly accepted as a scientists and i would recommend u looking at the pictures of the ruins of coast of Japan on his website and judge for yourself. And its not just Japan its ruins off the coast of china too.
Micheal Tsarion: That link u gave me is total bull shit especially chris white hes a chrstain extremist and brings up nothing that proves Tsarion wrong. The guy who wrote the article even admitted after chris white was an extremist after the comments posted by the other people. Heres the quate from the author "Andre".
"Andre Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 11:05 am Quote
Yes, Chris White is a complete joke. I suppose I should have known more about him before supporting him, but I still do believe he pointed out a number of mistakes in Tsarion’s work. He is not well read, and is a Christian extremist with a terribly violent and irrational agenda.
He did a whole show claiming that Alan Watt was a secret agent because he is not a Christian. He posted it on our message board and was refuted to the point where he ran away, refusing to discuss the issue further:
Outlaw Forum :: View topic - Sorry guys but Watt had it coming
Also, his thing with Sitchin is totally stupid - Sitchin has been proven to be complete tripe by all of the other people who understand how to read the Sumerian tablets, it is a fact, these people will not even speak with the man, he is considered to be so ridiculous. He has also been exposed as a high Freemason. Instead of simply speaking on these issues, Chris decides to make up some silly thing about Sitchin faking a sketch of a relief - get this - based on the fact that he can’t find the original image on Google.
Anyway, Chris is a nice guy, and I don’t think he deserved to be threatened, but I feel the need to publicly distance myself from him, as he is a violent extremist on a Christian Crusade - and I do not support that."
And this comment from Precarious333 pretty much explains why this Chris White Guy is an idiot
"Precarious333 Says:
December 25th, 2007 at 9:53 am Quote
Andre, what are you doing falling in with religious zealots? God knows I love ya, but where is your head? If you are taking the lead from people who believe in the literal resurrection of a magical man who turned water to wine and walked on water?!? Hahaha! What the hell are you thinking? Have you been shacking up with Natasha? (… that’s a joke, laugh it up.)
If Tsarion is evil and guilty for dealing with Rosicrucians, etc., then I suppose you are guilty by association for all the crimes of Christianity. Deny being Christian, but what’s the difference? Guilt by association in most cases is complete bullshit, and cheap and easy COINTELPRO! We could all be accused of all manner of nonsense just by our associations with others here on MySpace. Where does that get us? This is the tactic of those self-defeating conspiracy enthusiasts who see the devil in every shadow as they clutch their Holy Bible to their racing hearts.
The fascist tactic of rudely accusing others and expecting them to prove their innocence in not very becoming. Nice move. Wrong direction.
Tsarion has done allot to teach others the meaning of symbols that have remained hidden throughout history. I’m not here to defend him. He’s a big boy. He can defend himself or choose to call his accusers out if he so chooses. I don’t believe all he promotes, but there again I can’t think of anyone I agree with 100%. That’s the beauty of having a free and thinking mind.
The bottom line is the proof is in the pudding…
In terms your new Christian buddies can understand: “By their fruits shall Ye know them.” Matt 7:16
So what exactly has Tsarion promoted that is disinformation - rather than his personal opinion? Or what is it he has done that your Christian buddies identify as evil - aside from denying the obvious myths they take as history? What is stated in your commentary suggest he is an agent, which suggests he is pushing an agenda. So what is that agenda? If there is one, that would be important information to spread so others could shield themselves from it. I don’t see that. All I’m seeing is vague accusations of guilt by association.
What are we to defend ourselves from in regard to Mr. Tsarion? Please state this valuable information if you have it. Otherwise all you are doing is muddying the waters and generating fear within an already fracturing “truth community”. I’m sorry but stating that his mission is to “create mass confusion among our movement” is a cop out. Who is confused by what here? I don’t see any single leader or perspective within “our movement”. I don’t see everyone following Tsarion. I see allot of people using their own minds to decide whether or not information/ideas are believable on a point-by-point basis. None (of those I associate with anyway) take anyone at their word or believe all any other says as fact.
If the mission was to create a new religion he and all the others you consider agents would be pushing the same story, the same ideas, the same talking points. You need all the sheep in line to get them to the slaughter house. I don’t see that happening either. Aside from that, why would the agenda be to create a new religion unless one understands that religion is a very affective control mechanism? In which case, why can’t your Christian buddies see what they are a part of?
* * * THE OLD CONTROL SYSTEM * * *
In my humble opinion, I would suggest your Christian zealot friends direct their ire at those who openly corrupt what they hold sacred, such as Pat Robertson and his despicable ilk. Seems a little odd to be throwing negative energy at Tsarion when there are much more obvious and productive targets. But that’s just me. I tend to be logical and logic is not the strong suite of the Christian community.
As far the symbols used by the various organization shown in this blog
http://illusionsforum.net/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=998 :
You will always see a crossover of symbolism between diverse and even unrelated orders. For instance the Nazi’s use of the Buddhist Swastika, The Jewish acclimation of the “Star of David” from earlier occult symbols, the Christian use of innumerable so-called pagan symbols. Doesn’t mean there is a connection. It’s an expression of the universal appeal of symbols, which is exactly what Tsarion is trying to show in his ‘The Subversive Use of Sacred Symbolism in the Media’ video.
Symbols - like wisdom, like technology, like words - are neutral. They can be used for good or ill, to illuminate or occlude. They may be used in the light of truth or reversed in meaning. All depends on the context and application. Case in point: The Patriot Act. Not very patriotic at all but the symbol of patriotism is used to delude and misdirect. Is the ideal of patriotism somehow tainted by this misuse? No. Nor is the true meaning of the sun symbol of the swastika simply because the Nazis misused it.
What the blogger fails to take notice of is the most obvious symbol used in nearly all he’s posted. And that is the CROSS! Why is he not then accusing these organization of being Christian??? I mean, “Christian Rozenkruis” is an obvious reference to Christ, Christianity AND the cross. And the triangles could very well point to the Trinity, couldn’t they? If we follow his logic that should be the ultimate conclusion. Why is he not stating that?
Perhaps the particular brainwashing suffered by the author precludes accepting this connection which is most obvious to we who see the world without the blinders of Christianity?
My point is there will always be truths most easily and completely expressed as symbols and their geometric content and ratios. And those symbols will always be open to interpretation, misunderstanding and misuse. All religions and occult societies use them, as do corporations, sports teams and so on. They will always be around being used to represent different things depending on who is using them and for what purpose.
What’s more, the author of that blog obviously has ZERO understanding of any occult philosophies making his opinions next to worthless. He repeatedly states “wow more fancy stuff” when encountering ideas or words he doesn’t understand. Someone spouting half-assed ideas about things they don’t understand? THAT is disinformation, my friend.
So this drivel is the inspiration for the hit piece? Seriously? What a joke. Very disappointing…
Well that was a fun rant…
Have a merry Christ-mass! Everyone go blow your Illuminati Eye-on-the-Pyramid dollars on useless shit from COMMUNIST Red China in the name of Baby Jesus!
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This theory is so boggling that I can't think up any way to rebut it! But alas, I must try, for the sake of the children.
So what you're saying is humans have developed technology that looks exactly like it does today, got kicked back to the Stone Age, then did it again? And we've done it multiple times? In what amount of time? Goood god, man, do you know the amount of time we've actualy been developing tools? The short span of 30 000 years. And major civilizations only came about 10 000 years ago.
If that were the case, wouldn't there be evidence of these old "advanced" technologies? Not just physical evidence, but writings and paintings? Sure, you've got your glyphs on the pyramids, but there should be a helluva lot more drawings and writings explaining these technologies. There should be ancient ruins of advanced power plants, solar farms. And what use would ancient man have for giant walls if their enemies could just fly in on a helicopter?
Archaeologists have found evidence of ancient batteries in Baghdad dating from thousands of years ago. These ancient batteries are quite primitive in nature, and couldn't provide much more elctricity than your average lemon. So why would a civilization more advanced than us use such primitive and useless batteries?
Think, my friend, before you voice your theories. This has been thought of before, and it is proven to be false by simple common sense.
This is because this is what you want to see. You want to see helicopters, so you see them. But the fact is, the ancient Egyptians didn't even carve what you see into that. It's a matter of erosion and recarving the glyphs that has changed them.
Our minds want to see patterns. This is why you see faces in rock and animals in clouds. It can be related to the whole "face on Mars! OMG!" fiasco, when NASA released images of what appeared to be a giant face carved into the surface of Mars. The picture was taken during the 70's though, so it was quite blurry. That, coupled with shadows, created a very convincing face. But what happened when NASA went back and took another picture of the same area with updated technology? The famous face was revealed to be nothing more than a boulder, and didn't actualy look like a face at all.
This isn't controversial. Abortion is controversial. This is just silly.
Nobody snuck in, they were paid to do it.
A lot of ancient civilizations placed much emphasis on stars and planets, and, as such, were quite advanced in astronomy. The Mayans had a calander that is even more accurate than our own. They studied the stars and were able to explain many things about how our planet moved in relation to the sun and other planets.
Because it's funny and unbelievable? Egyptians in helicopters? And they didn't conquer the world? Puh-leese!
Not everyone believes in the bible. Actually, the people who don't outnumber the people who do. And the people who interpret it figurtivly outnumber the people who interpret it literally. And there are many questions asked.
Maybe because it is impossible to disprove a universal negative, and thus impossible to disprove God. But through conjecture and reasoning, it's easy to see why ancient people did not have the same kind of technology we have today. You'd think that if they had nuclear weapons, we'd be able to find some of them. And if not, maybe some radiation?
You know, you'd probably make good friends with Erich von Däniken.
You bring up some good arguments but u are basing this off what media, news papers, and high school level books released to u. Just this year the author from Forbidden archeology has gathered up tons of cases and reports over a 100 years of when archeologist's studied these ancient sites and only 10% of the things they found on those sites were released to the public. They are releasing these forgotten cases to the public soon. When that comes out u will see how much bull shit regular scientist and archeologist's taught kids in school about human history and dating. Thats why most kids cant stand history and archeology because they cut so much of the interested and amazing things that happened that it bores the hell out of them. And I completely understand why kids don't take an interest to this stuff.
Also do u really think even if they did find evidence of technology do u really think they would release it to the regular dumbed down brainwashed American? It has to do with politics unfortunately and when it interferes with religion they have to censor it for the general public. Most people cant take this stuff because it would shatter their beliefs to pieces.
Also did u know in the 1930's when most of the discoveries of the pyramids were made there was tons of artifacts and technology thrown to the side because they couldn't understand them. Because it was supposedly mythology and therefore wasn't important. But these are not Mythologies these are actual events the ancients experienced and deserve being looked at by open minded people rather than some stubborn close minded British Ass hole.
Damn does anyone have anything positive to say for Christ sake i want to talk to the more open minded people here if there even is any here.
