We all need to be cured of infantilism.

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ilostthesheriff

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Just came across this.

Jerry Springer 10/12/1992 - Adults Who Act Like Babies (Stephanie/Tommy/Heidi ABDL FULL EPISODE) - YouTube

It's an early Springer show on adults who like to act like babies.

As many of you, I often wonder about what the general public perception would be on ABDL'ism or infantilism. This vid is of an early show when it was more tame.

The first female guest is very intelligent, well spoken, knowledgeable and steadfast. She ends up with two other adult babies on the show and the shrink who goes on to declare that ABDL's suffer from a disease and seek a cure.

I wonder how much of the general population would still react in this way even with the advancement of the internet where they could have become exposed to the like and formed an opinion either way.

As a post disclaimer I am not advocating hitting the public streets wearing nothing but a diaper and a t-shirt but rather was musing about the callous misconceptions about the world of ABDL.

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What I never really get about those shows (I know it's more about creating a sensationalist tv entertainment at the cost of the "Protagonists" than anything else, but still) is this:

WHY do the participants have to be fully dressed up like that.
I'm no AB - but have been around the block of kink long enough to have seen more than my fair share in terms of people and their fetishes.
But it is one thing to be fully dressed up at a kink-meeting, fetish party, kink-event, AB-event or whatever OR AT HOME and it's an entirely different matter to present yourself in such an attire to a global audience.
The later never really will go well - and I personally have some dislike for it too. Whilst I really respect "personal choices & personal freedom" - even if it's stuff I don't understand - I always think that public exposure doesn't really help anyone.

Just imagine the same show - but the women (whilst maybe wearing a diaper) being fully clothed... or The other two guy not going in full AB Mode but just wearing regular stuff, but having the same discussion.
I think it would indeed go over much better, as it would look less extreme.

And sorry to say, but the "shrink" on that show is an absolute joke from a modern psychological point of view.

So I'd say if a shows would be made with the characters normally clothed (with or without diapers beneath) and they would actually hire a proper psychologist with a modern understanding of kinks and stuff... the show would be far more educational, but alas I guess it's sensationalist shock-value would be entirely eradicated
 

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the context of the year is very important from that clip. If I'm not mistaken it's either 1993 or 1994. It was an extremely different world back then. I really don't think that you would get the same reaction especially from the therapist if you present those questions today. Maybe was some that are still on the outside, but I think that a majority of intelligent people will see things differently than you saw in that show.
Keep in mind that in that day gays and lesbians were taboo. Transsexual's for all intents and purposes did not exist to the public. So it's a very different time I would expect an extremely different reaction
 

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Yea I agree the video said it was from 1992 from the date on the clip I was only 4 months old at the time. The way people look at stuff has changed a lot.
 

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It's the jerry springer everything on that show is done for shock value.Maybe if they were to go opera or dr phil in more recent years it would be diffrerent.
 

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...But still, if there was a cure, I'd take it. A sort of "silver bullet" if you will.
 

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I wouldn't take the cure if they had one. I have always felt the way I do its how I am, I think if I took that part of me away my personality would be different and I would be a compleatly different person.
 
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Making a cure for AB/DL is like accepting society's cure for different.
 
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Maxx

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You have to wonder how he found them. Pre-internet, I had no idea there was anyone else like that, and I am one.
 

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Making a cure for AB/DL is like accepting society's cure for different.

That's a good way of putting it, so I need to share some of my thoughts about the topic. I'm a furry, and I have heard peoples' attitude about furries being weird and are therefore wrong. I know don't like the idea that I'm somehow a problem because I like to be different from what is considered normal. That being said, I also believe that people shouldn't overdo things regardless of what you're into. There is nothing wrong with being a bit on the unusual side, as long as what you're doing doesn't cause harm to others.
 

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trying to find a cure is the same as never wanting to be a kid and just like"i dont want to be a kid. I want to be a adult"
Same thing and that was hella defferent back then, i wasnt exposed to the DL world untill like 2001 during when i was staying at the apartments

And besides, your inner child is a reason you stay young...lose that and you age really fast and show it too.
 

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People thought homosexuality was a disease that could be cured.

Let us be, mainstream media. It's shows like this that paint a bad image to the general public. At least that Jerry Springer episode was over 20 years old now. That recent Channel 4 documentary was much more impartial, but I still think the less exposure the better. Even after 50 shades, you still don't see a ton of TV shows covering BDSM or feet fetishes - people know it goes on behind closed doors and carry on with their lives.
 

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Whether infantilism / diaper loving is a disease or not, I WANT to be cured. I want to be normal and have normal relationships. It's rendered me effectively asexual; I have almost no sexual attraction to people at all. I wish I had a choice in this, I really do. I'm not saying I'd force a cure on anyone, but if there were a way to be normal, I'd take it.
 
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If they had a cure for this, I wouldn't take it. Just like if there was a cure for autism. I feel like this is part of who I am, my personality if you will. You can't just cure someone's personality. It'd just be so weird because seeing as this part of me, I feel like I'd change as a person if I was cured of being 'infantile'.
 

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A cure? Ew, keep it away. To quote the great sailor, "I yam who I yam." It took me a long time to accept that but I like me and my Daddy likes me, ain't no way I'm going back to normal. I also have to say that I don't mind exposure but I wish they would stop treating everything so much like a freak show.
 

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Well when it comes to a "cure" I would honestly have to say that the "cure" is worse then the disease at least in theory. Personally I believe that being AB,DL or something similiar is a part of who and what you are. Someone should NEVER (sorry something is wrong with my PC. whenever I capitalize something I am really trying to italicize it instead for emphasis not emotion) destroy a part of themselves like that because I suspect your potentially going to stop being human at that point. The only way doing this to yourself could be "justified" would be if you where to have some sort of compulsive suicidal tendency that absolutely was going to get you killed then gambling with your humanity is better then going with a dead very dead certainty at least in theory.

Personally if I hear someone call me a "freak" in a hypothetical situation where they knew I was a AB/DL then I would just think of that mentality as the disease caused by society because to even think of me as a "freak" one would have to think I am somehow less then human. In the end we are all humans no matter how truly sick,decrepit,or evil a individual may be they are all still human. I do see society as inherently sick and HEALTHY discussion is the cure to that disease. Unfortunately I am not by any means perfect at doing this which is why we all need friends because a team is more powerful then any one individual usually.

I also would like to see people stop treating this as a freak show too. it's more because of ignorance and people not knowing what they are doing that makes people so cruel because they simply do not know any better and actually usually have altruistic though misguided intentions. I would like to see more HEALTHY exposure personally but I wish I knew how to MAKE healthy public exposure and there are ways but I don't KNOW those ways and so it would be foolish of me to even try at least at this time because all I would accomplish is to make things worse.
 

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Well, that was in 1992, even the "cure the gays" movement hadn't been discredited for the stupidity it is yet. I mean, I got into the ABDL scene when I got the internet because it was the only place or group I'd encountered that didn't treat diapers as something to be ashamed of. Even mainstream Incontinence Groups treat it like something you should really be ashamed of, and try to manage in any other way(all tending to be more trouble than they're worth).

Just embracing the baby of diaper dependency is much more enjoyable and I haven't regretted it since. :)
 

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yeah, I do see that, seen the Springer episode, was unimpressed then
quite frankly, My first exposure was out of a Hustler magazine in the mid '80s, at which point, I realized then that 'I'm not the only one!'. Keep in mind, pre-internet, things still got around, just a bit slower. there seemed to be a hell of alot of print mags that catered to just about every desire back in the days. I've actually had several print mag subscriptions die midway through the subscription in the 90s, with the net taking over.

As far as a cure, at my age, is likely worse than the disease. not worth the 'Fix'. To someone in their teens pondering this issue, maybe, possibly worth it. I dunno.
 

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The Springer show was scripted, admitted by Springer himself from the Springer movie. My guess is that the adult baby participants had to wear their full regalia.

Society will always find groups of people to hate. That too is part of our human nature. That's what should be cured, and the cure is education. This is why the internet can be a good thing. It demonstrates to the public that there are plenty of us, some who are young and beautiful. I see them on Tumblr all the time. I'm sure the acceptance of homosexuality got wings because of the exchange of information via the internet.
 
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...and, don't even get me started on Jerry Springer...or the freaking masses that kept it in business!! To use the degradation of life, as an entertainment venue...oh, let us count the ways that this is so wrong!!

Fortunately, I don't have much of an opinion on the matter... ;-)

-Marka

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Whether infantilism / diaper loving is a disease or not, I WANT to be cured. I want to be normal and have normal relationships. It's rendered me effectively asexual; I have almost no sexual attraction to people at all. I wish I had a choice in this, I really do. I'm not saying I'd force a cure on anyone, but if there were a way to be normal, I'd take it.

Well, in my opinion...you are quite normal...the "normal relationships" ,and "effectively asexual"...need not be the curse it seems to you now! I think of all the trouble, danger, and hardships that can accompany these things... and by what seems to be a combination of social constructs, and unfettered animal instinctual behavior...we are not perhaps...simply animals...are we??

I would say to you...don't worry so much about it my friend...

-Marka
 
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