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Warning very long three part review ahead 1st post contains the summary...
Threaded Armor protective briefs
Review
Threaded Armor protective briefs
Review
This review will be split into three parts to make it easier to organise the information and find what you need.
- Description of the product, company review and a summary of findings.
- Controlled testing, showing effectiveness of the inserts under ideal conditions.
- Real world usage, showing effectiveness overall in every day life.
Part One
Description
Description
Here is the link to the Threaded Armor website, the company also produce Super Undies which are the childrens and teens equivalent. The super undies site currently has Threaded Armor adult products but apparently from January they will be removing that from the page so that the adult stuff is only listed on the Threaded Armor website.
I will include images as best I can but to kick things off here is the video Laura Woj at Threaded Armor made to introduce their Protective Briefs.
This is their flagship product for adults though they also offer:
- A snap on version which is basically the same but with snaps on each side at the front, the waist is stretchy and could be pulled on and off with the snaps functioning as an easy access option.
- The Lounge briefs which are the same but with the waistband elastic encased in leece to match the legs for comfort.
- The Basic briefs/training pants, these differ slightly in that they do have 2 layers of built in absorbency and are still compatible with the step up inserts if more is needed.
They also have a wide range of colour choices and a collection of fun and cute prints which changes over time as stocks of a print allow, if you enjoy that.
When you buy them each Protective brief comes with an insert set that consists of 1 Hero insert and 1 Step up insert.
- They can currently be bought individually for $64 (£55, 60 Euro).
- Super Undies used to do packs of 3 (which come with free exra soaker bombs) for $179 (£149, 168 Euro) but I don't know if this will carry over to the Threaded Armor website when they move.
- In sets of 5 (which come with free extra soaker bombs) for $317 (£263, 298 Euro). With the packs you can choose colours or select masculine/feminine and let them choose for you,
- You can also join a monthly subscription service where each month they send you a new brief (different colours each time). This also gets you early access to new prints. and a few other features.
They use their own insert system which comes as 3 different types.
- The larger Hero insert which has the snaps to connect it to the briefs, 3 layers of microfiber terry and a top layer of athletic mesh for wicking and dry feel, the mesh is only sewn to the terry layers along the sides not the ends allowing you to feed the step up booster or soaker bomb inside to keep it all together and prevent bunching/twisting and to prepare changes ahead of time so you are not messing around with multiple inserts when you need to.
- A smaller Step up Booster with 2 layers of microfiber and the same athletic mesh on one side, these are sewn all round and fit into the Hero insert, multiple Step ups can be used in one Hero to reach the absorbency level you need (up to about 4 comfortably).
- The Soaker Bomb is a small rectangle with 3 layers of microfiber, these can easily be placed inside the hero for more absorbency and are a little smaller then the shaped Step up booster.
Now for some pics.
Front: The large size briefs measure approx 52cm at the hips, and 34cm waist to crotch, the leg cuffs are surrounded in a nice soft fleece and the wide (4cm) boxer style waistband is quite comfortable, no irritation or marks left by it yet. Both the central blue and the white side wings are waterproof PUL.
Back: Has a larger coloured or patterned piece and same measurements.
Inside: Front (left) showing the surrounding gussets and leak guards (turned in on these pictures to get it flatter). Back (right) has a larger gusset.
The gussets front and back go all the way to the waistband and hide the snaps on little ribbons, they are also made of PUL to keep any moisture trapped in where the inserts sit.
Additional.
(left) The insides of the side PUL wings are lined with fleece like the leg cuffs. (center) The boxer style waistband. (right) Inside the back gusset to show the snaps.
Inserts will be shown in the testing section as there is a 10 file maximum.
Company
The staff at the company are usually pretty quick to answer any questions and are very polite and helpful with any questions. They have a reward point system to get discounts and a few ways to earn them besides purchases. Delivery was quite quick considering it was international and close to christmas (with postal strikes over here). They have a newsletter that goes out with regular discount codes. Overall I was happy with the service, there were two issues I had after the briefs arrived but these were well resolved through emails.
- The first was that the box had the invoice on the outside with the full list of what I had purchased, prices, company name and my contact details.
After speaking with their rep about this I learned that this is due to the oversea's shipping system, nationally that invoice is not needed so can be delivered more discreetly, but to ship internationally it has to be there, when they send it out they put it face down with nothing visible but as it goes through customs the operators there may not have the same concern for discretion when replacing it.
They offered me an apology and a decent discount on the next purchase and listened to my suggestions to add a note to this effect on the international delivery info on the FAQ's page. I can understand this not being their fault but a lack of courtesy from couriers and customs officers. - The second point was that on one of the briefs one of the snaps on the ribbon broke off after the first use, now this is not a problem for me as I make my own stuff and have spare snaps and pliers, This is not a fault of their construction but something that can happen to plastic Kam snaps sometimes. They offered a return and replace (which would have been quite costly) but when I said I had fixed it myself offered another discount code as appology and said they would look into it to see if there is a way to improve the fastening.
Summary
Overall I have been very impressed with these protective briefs, The construction quality is excellent and the design is well thought out. With a few layers of inserts you can definitely feel a little bulk between the legs but this is not too bad, they also cover well under trousers with no obvious bulges or bumps. If they do happen to peak out from a waistband it would not be immediately obvious what you are wearing as they look mostly like normal underwear, They are also very quiet with little to no audible rustle and are built with a quality that feels very durable and long lasting materials.They are remarkably easy to change the inserts out, normally with a pull up you would need to remove trousers to take off and replace a pull up, with these you can simply pull them down, unsnap and remove the insert, put a new one in place, snap it in then pull them up and go. This is easiest to do sat on a chair or the toilet. If the briefs are wet inside because the insert was saturated it's easy to just wipe out before replacing. It takes a little getting used to getting them centered in the gussets this way but not much.
The briefs themselves can be used multiple times before needing to be washed as long as you change often enough that they don't wick onto the outside (can happen with not enough layers of inserts) when washing the outer briefs you can also use a fabric softener as there is no built in absorbency to worry about, this means you can throw them in with a regular clothing wash and do the inserts (which you can't use softener on) seperately, they dry very fast as do the inserts.
I have not tried and am not sure I would want to try messing in these as I can imagine they'd be a pain to clean out because of the gussets however I could also imagine them being very effective at keeping it contained due to that reason.
The athletic mesh on the inserts is excellent, normally in a diaper I would use microfleece as a staydry layer which I have found can get a little itchy after a longer time being wet, the athletic mesh does not have the same itchyness even after 8+ hours and does feel very good against the skin, enough so that I have bought some to replace my current liners with.
I would highly recommend these for people with mild to moderate incontinence for daytime wear, for heavier incontinence they should still be good if you can work out how many inserts you would need. For nocturnal enuresis I'm not so sure, they may work great for some people but not for others. For the AB's and DL's out there who don't expect a diaper to hold 6 gallons these are also very good, lots of color choice/prints, comfy and effective if you manage how much you release in one go or change sensibly. They would also make good training pants for "older littles" who can use the toilet but may need a little backup for accidents or for those who like the feel of a diaper but don't really use them much.
For those looking to try cloth instead of disposables they are also a good 1st step, being easy to change the smaller insert system is also faster and easier to wash and dry than other full cloth diapers. They also take up much less storage space as the briefs fold quite thin and the inserts are smaller than an average AIO/AI2 or adult flat/prefold.
I would like to see them offer Bamboo alternatives on the inserts especially after my first round of testing, as these are better at holding moisture when compressed.
They are also not exactly a cheap option but you do pay for high quality and with even the tiniest bit of skill and access to a sewing machine (or better yet a serger/overlocker) you can easily and cheaply make your own inserts, (I made 4 for £70, $84, using a more expensive bamboo terry and with fabric left over which works out about 2/3 their sales price).
At the end of the day the main questions are:
- Would I buy them again?
Yes I would but only if they open a store here or find a UK retailer. £58 for shipping plus a £60 import fee was more than half the product cost. - Would I recommend them to others?
Yes, maybe not to everyone (if you are looking for a super soaker 9000 they are not for you) but for a lot of people they would be a good investment. The money you spend on them up front may be saved over time with not buying disposables. - Do they do the intended job?
Yes, they are aimed at inconinent users who need a reliable product and are sensible about managing their changes and don't plan to spend all day in the same diaper until they might as well go swimming. But they would still be a good product for a DL or AB who just wants something they can use sensibly. - Are they good for bedwetters?
Probably not, the company claims they are good for it but from my experience they are best suited to active day wear. - Will they work for you?
That depends on your individual needs and wants, hopefully this review will help answer that but they are very customizable for each user and have something to offer for a lot of people.
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