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LittleJess

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I got rejected from 20 jobs today, I applied for over 20 mcdonalds stores in my area, (all the way upto port adelaide)

Guess what I get rejected, but get this, one of my mates who I used to be mates with is a meth addict (well I would of said crack but he uses meth more obviously as he is poor) guess what he gets an interview for the job :wallbash: and gets the job in the area I got rejected in.

I also got rejected from a ton of no experience jobs, such as a bakery, aldi etc.

All I can say is WTF, this is so unfair, so there willing to hire someone who does meth and hasn't held a job longer than a couple weeks, but won't hire me what is the world coming too.

The economy is so screwed, I have no hope honestly.

Hello Binary (changed to not identify me) got this 20 times in my inbox.

Thank you very much for your online application for a crew position with Macca’s.

Unfortunately, on this occasion, your application has not been successful.

Thanks again for your interest in McDonald’s and we wish you all the very best with your future endeavours.

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You just have to keep applying. Doesn't matter how many times, just keep doing it. I would say at least apply once a month to each place. Sadly the issue is, if they are not hiring or they choose a different applicant, there isn't much you can do about it, but the more you apply the more your application is going to stick out and the more likely you will be picked.

Trust me when I say, I know how hard it is. I have gotten rejected so many times for jobs, it's sort of just part of the process.

Also, I would advise you to stop comparing yourself to others who do happen to get hired. Don't worry about what they do, only worry about what you are doing. If you think it's unfair and you know this person isn't going to last, keep apply for that job. That is all you can do.
 

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You just have to keep applying. Doesn't matter how many times, just keep doing it. I would say at least apply once a month to each place. Sadly the issue is, if they are not hiring or they choose a different applicant, there isn't much you can do about it, but the more you apply the more your application is going to stick out and the more likely you will be picked.

Trust me when I say, I know how hard it is. I have gotten rejected so many times for jobs, it's sort of just part of the process.

Also, I would advise you to stop comparing yourself to others who do happen to get hired. Don't worry about what they do, only worry about what you are doing. If you think it's unfair and you know this person isn't going to last, keep apply for that job. That is all you can do.
Yeah I should stop letting things get to my head, causes so much issues later on :p
 

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You're actually a bit lucky to even get a reply. I've applied to lots of jobs recently (since I hate mine) and just get nothing. I never hear back at all.
 

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Story of my life. My last application didn't even get a reply either, I realise they probably have a lot of people to sort through but not even bothering to reply is just pathetic.
 

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Story of my life. My last application didn't even get a reply either, I realise they probably have a lot of people to sort through but not even bothering to reply is just pathetic.
Yep. Like Metallica said, "It's not who you are, it's who you know." I definitely believe that by now.
 

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I'm coming up on 300 applications in the past 3 years. Only 2 interviews which didn't go further than the first meeting.

McDonalds has rejected me quite a few times. Walmart too (Applied to most positions) and many other low-income jobs. I've tried for jobs in my field of study.

I know the feeling. :(
 
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Online applications must be one of the toughest ways to apply for a job. Everything is based on a short resume without knowing anything about the person. And no doubt employers are going through them quickly and not giving them much more than a quick glance. The resume really needs to stand out, and I would also suggest submitting it with a good cover letter telling them why you are the best person for the job, relating all your skills, attributes, and motivation to what is required of the position. The resume doesn't get you the job, but you should look at it as a marketing tool you need to get your foot in the door.

Keep the resume short and focus it on your best work, otherwise it gets watered down with the more mediocre content. Longer resumes do not make a good impression since employers go through them quickly and will likely miss the key points you really want to them to consider. You also want to highlight your accomplishments throughout the years. A resume should not simply look like a summary job description, but rather, it should show what you did with the job to create a better and more effective workplace. It's also a good idea to look at the advertisement for the job and tailor your resume specifically to it.

Considering the number of resumes an employer will be looking at, a good cover letter is also essential. This should indicate how you found out about the position, why you want it, and how it fits in with your experience or values. If the company has a website, refer to it in the cover letter and relate it to your work experience. Refer to the advertisement and what the employer is looking for. You can give examples of your past experience in a cover letter that are directly related to the qualifications listed in the advertisement. It helps show the employer that you already have what they're looking for. Even if it's something like Mcdonald's, you can come up with something ss motivation. Use specifics and give examples of past work experience that demonstrate skills and abilities that are transferable to the position sought. List any projects where you were a major contributor.

Formatting is also important. An attractive, easy-to-read resume will receive more attention than a cluttered, poorly laid out one. Keep it short, usually one to two pages max, and use features that will draw an employer's attention to the key points you want highlighted (bullets, spacing, bold type for headings, etc).

The other thing that's really important to remember is that many employers will check you out on the internet before considering you for an interview. This means they will be checking out your Facebook page, Twitter, YouTube, Pinterest, Google, or any professional circle where your name may show up. You want to ensure your online persona matches your resume statements. Social media plays a big part in hiring practices.

http://www.financialsamurai.com/examples-of-good-resumes/

There are a number of online jobsites where you can be looking for work and you can post your resume on them for free as well. They usually send out job alerts for whatever field you're interested in. Have you registered on any of those?

https://www.careercloud.com/news/2015/3/8/10-sites-you-should-be-posting-your-resume-on

Also, Sapphyre is correct in her observation that employers frequently hire someone known to them. If we have a vacant position in our office, we'll ask around the office and see if anyone knows of a well qualified individual prior to engaging in a lengthy search that may not yield the desired results. Let everyone know you're looking. A boss may hire someone based on an employees recommendation.

Also, keep your eyes open for any 'job fairs' where recruiters are looking for potential employees. These are opportunities to meet and make a good impression as well as network with influential people.

https://www.nationalcareerfairs.com/career-fairs/

Aside from that, hey my sympathies to you. We're all human and it always feel like we're being personally rejected. It's not the case, it's just the economy and the number of people looking for work. You're a bright, talented individual. It's only a matter of time before someone recognizes that.
 
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did you go into these places or contact them by phone after applying? I noticed you had said that these places all replied to your inbox, rather then saying anyone on the phone or in person told you these things.

http://www.adisc.org/forum/showthread.php/105971-My-mother-is-such-a-liar?p=1419666#post1419666


cant stress this first paragraph enough----^

If you are not taking measures to physically speak with someone, or over the phone do an interview, I am 90% sure your wasting your time.


Also, from my own past history with jobs, if its any consolation, the serious drug users don't tend to stay employed in their jobs for too long. too unwilling to come in everyday, or perform with clear minds.

You may look into graveyard or overnight shifts in your area, here in the U.S. there is almost always a vacancy for these jobs. At one point in my life I worked for two years on overnights for walmart.
 
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As everyone has said, physically go in there in person and ask about jobs. Cold applying to most jobs online, especially min wage type jobs that get swamped in applications is very unlikely to succeed.

I agree with Starrunner's advice in general, however for most min wage/high turnover type jobs they mainly just want to know that:

- You're going to show up on time.
- You'll be capable of doing the job.
- You're not be a pain in the ass to deal with.
- There's nothing about your legal status that is going to cause them a bunch of grief.

So I'd focus on that as much as possible. Showing up in person demonstrates that you can at least physically get to the location, and gives them an opportunity to gauge the rest to some degree, whereas with an online application they have much less to go on. It's also a lot quicker and easier to click the "reject" button on an HR management system then to tell someone no in person.

Also be sure to show up clean and well dressed, be respectful and polite, don't lie, etc.
 

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it's not "unfair". No one owes you a job. Figure out what YOU'RE DOING WRONG and fix it. Don't focus on why they hired the meth head. Obviously they don't know he's a meth head. They will soon enough when he starts stealing shit and ultimately gets fired. Focus on you, and no one else.

Start by applying in person. Get someone to help you with a resume. Sit down and figure out what skills you have and why someone should pay you for them. If you think job hunting is just filling out 20 random applications, then you have a lot more work to do. Start reading some job hunting blogs.
 

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Yep. Like Metallica said, "It's not who you are, it's who you know." I definitely believe that by now.
Indeed. This is officially admitted when people stress the importance of "networking". I have worked in places where higher ranking personnel owed their positions solely to workplace politics; they were woefully incompetent. Some former colleagues and I were also turned down in favor of people who got C's and D's at best in school simply because they had family members in a company that was paying high wages for skilled labor.

Applying for a job almost seems to be a full-time job in itself nowadays. You are going to have to keep moving with dozens of additional applications, Binary.
 

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Life is unfair is what my dad always told me.

I have also applied at many places and got rejected and only had a few interviews but one time I kept on getting phones calls about a job but had already started one and they would tell me good luck with my new job and thank me for applying. Life is a competition. You are competing against others ti get a job it's like who has the best application and who has the best work history and best work references and best recommendations and who has the best resume. it's all a competition and it's also about who was dressed the most nicely. Who had the greatest smile and attitude. Even during an interview it's about who was the most dressed nicely, had the most positive attitude, the best questions they asked and showed the most interest, hell even NTs put all their energy and efforts to compete and even put on an act to win the job. This is all a game. But it's harder for people with disabilities to get a job which is why we have voc rehab and companies that employ people with disabilities and ticket to work programs by Social Security. But this is the US I am talking about and since you have a diagnoses, you can see if there are any places in your area that help people with disabilities get a job and use your diagnoses to get that service and get employment. But I also understand if you are trying to do it the "normal" way and if you feel that going for a disability service for work is the easy way out and feel others out there might need it more than you.
 

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Start by applying in person.
In my experience many companies no longer accept paper applications. Applying is done online-only.

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Life is unfair is what my dad always told me.

I have also applied at many places and got rejected and only had a few interviews but one time I kept on getting phones calls about a job but had already started one and they would tell me good luck with my new job and thank me for applying. Life is a competition. You are competing against others ti get a job it's like who has the best application and who has the best work history and best work references and best recommendations and who has the best resume. it's all a competition and it's also about who was dressed the most nicely. Who had the greatest smile and attitude. Even during an interview it's about who was the most dressed nicely, had the most positive attitude, the best questions they asked and showed the most interest, hell even NTs put all their energy and efforts to compete and even put on an act to win the job. This is all a game. But it's harder for people with disabilities to get a job which is why we have voc rehab and companies that employ people with disabilities and ticket to work programs by Social Security. But this is the US I am talking about and since you have a diagnoses, you can see if there are any places in your area that help people with disabilities get a job and use your diagnoses to get that service and get employment. But I also understand if you are trying to do it the "normal" way and if you feel that going for a disability service for work is the easy way out and feel others out there might need it more than you.
This has also been my experience. As an autistic, I cannot fake social skills or emotions I don't have. I cannot act like I think it's the greatest fucking thing that I'm potentially being given the opportunity to make minimum wage at a multi-million dollar company that doesn't give two shits about me.

Guess I need to call the Office of Vocational Rehabilitation again, seeing someone was supposed to contact me and never did.
 

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In my experience many companies no longer accept paper applications. Applying is done online-only.

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This has also been my experience. As an autistic, I cannot fake social skills or emotions I don't have. I cannot act like I think it's the greatest fucking thing that I'm potentially being given the opportunity to make minimum wage at a multi-million dollar company that doesn't give two shits about me.

Guess I need to call the Office of Vocational Rehabilitation again, seeing someone was supposed to contact me and never did.
Yeah that's the major problem with job hunting, every-time I go apply for a job in person they always tell you to apply online, which I try to explain to my parents that you can't just get up walk into a shop and be like can I get a job, as they will always turn you down and ask you to apply online.

With some smaller shops you can, but 99% of work places you can't just get up and walk in because 99% of the time you're wasting your time because there gonna tell you, oh sorry you have to apply online. I myself had have had this happen with every place I go in person to.

I know that you can always ring up places, but a lot of companies are getting sly now and removing there numbers, same goes with politicians, as soon as someone finds a way to beat the system someone comes along and stamps on it.

Best of all if you're on welfare and unemployed the government treat you like shit, I've at times have had my welfare cut off, due to fuck ups a private organisation made, how in anyway is that fair? Oh the building has flooded and you're told to come in another day and they rebook your appointment lets cut you off completely have to sit on the phone for 2 hours and having to call a different number than the actual local organisation to explain the situation and because the local organisation doesn't report any information to the higher ups you're left with talking to a rude British female who doesn't seem to understand that buildings can flood due to burst pipes.

Don't forget, I'm not even protected under the disability act, if I get sacked solely based on my disability that's ok and I get punished for it too. Oh you didn't go to an appointment you were supposed to, eh you do know I can't swim... literally they were sitting outside signing peoples names off and rebooking the appointments.

Job agencies be like any job you get you must do, you have to apply for 20 jobs even if you don't like them, they even put your name down for random jobs lets say you get a job which requires a lot of socialisation that you can't do, and you reject it, bam you get cut off for 6 weeks, you get sacked because your social skills are bad? bam 6 weeks cut off. It's really fucked. I think the same goes for interviews not too sure just going by experience. I even get treated like an animal etc it's hell annoying. Being there alone is depressing.

Generally you're "dependent" until your 21 so if you move out and get a job, tough luck getting extra support, you have to wait a year before you can get the higher payment for singles and better yet you have to wait until you're 25 to get enough to live on your own when you study.

Oh you live a state away from your parents, pfft you haven't been working for a year, you're clearly dependent on your parents still, payment denied lol.

Ironically there now changing it so people get paid less, and better yet have to wait 4 weeks, well damn that's quick last time I applied I waited 6 fucking months :D just for them to look at a piece of paper.

I wonder how they treat blind people...

I guess the best way to compare it to, is buying adult diapers, 99% of places will not have specific adult diapers, so no matter how many stores you walk in to, you'll end up having to order it online :D

I'm also deaf so that makes life a little harder for me, a lot of people can't seem to grasp the concept is you can be deaf but not deaf enough to need a hearing aid.
 
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In my experience many companies no longer accept paper applications. Applying is done online-only.
It's pretty much the standard process these days. If the posting says to apply online, then you should absolutely apply online and not try and bypass the process by going in person. It may send a message to the employer that you either didn't pay attention to the instructions or you didn't follow the instructions. I think the question is whether it is appropriate to follow up in person after applying online. Whether it's a good idea to go in person or not depends on a number of variables.

I had a case recently where we were advertising for a position and we were receiving resumes online. In the middle of a super hectic day, one of the applicants showed up at my office unexpectedly and wanting to follow up to ensure the resume was received and had some questions about our agency and the work involved. I really didn't have the time as I was preparing for several hearings. I was told the person had taken time off work to come and talk to someone in our office. So I took about twenty minutes out of my schedule which worked out to an additional twenty minutes of my time bringing my work home. That person did not get an interview (for a number of variables).

I don't think it's a good idea to show up unannounced because you likely won't get to see the person you need to speak to. If it's a larger corporation they may have a recruitment team who will screen the resumes before the manager sees them, and in a smaller overworked agency, people don't usually have the time because there's not enough staff or hours in the day (which is why we need to hire someone).

I think a good way to get your foot in the door is to contact the company with a follow up phone call just to verify that they received your resume, and then secondly, ask to schedule a time to come in and speak to someone so that you can come in, ask questions about the agency and get more information about the position. It can provide invaluable information if you get chosen for an interview, help you familiarize yourself with the company, and allow you to make an impression in a way that is not disruptive to the business.

https://www.pongoresume.com/blogPosts/619/delivering-your-resume-in-person-good-idea-or-bad-.cfm
 
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I got rejected from 20 jobs today, I applied for over 20 mcdonalds stores in my area, (all the way upto port adelaide)

Guess what I get rejected, but get this, one of my mates who I used to be mates with is a meth addict (well I would of said crack but he uses meth more obviously as he is poor) guess what he gets an interview for the job :wallbash: and gets the job in the area I got rejected in.

I also got rejected from a ton of no experience jobs, such as a bakery, aldi etc.

All I can say is WTF, this is so unfair, so there willing to hire someone who does meth and hasn't held a job longer than a couple weeks, but won't hire me what is the world coming too.

The economy is so screwed, I have no hope honestly.

Hello Binary (changed to not identify me) got this 20 times in my inbox.

Thank you very much for your online application for a crew position with Macca’s.

Unfortunately, on this occasion, your application has not been successful.

Thanks again for your interest in McDonald’s and we wish you all the very best with your future endeavours.

Kind Regards
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We receive a high volume of applications and we've given your application close consideration, but unfortunately this time you've been unsuccessful.

It's fast paced here at Telstra, our organisation is constantly evolving and this means there's always exciting job opportunities popping up. You can keep in touch by registering for our Job Alert, where you'll get email notifications on new job posts that suit you. And if you see a role that interests you, please feel free to apply.You can also follow us on social media for regular updates on careers news and advice.

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Asperger's/Autism and Cerebral palsy guy, me, has had severe difficulty finding employment.
I understand the issue.
 

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In my experience, most retail and food service jobs involve you applying online and even if you do go there in person to apply they'll tell you to apply online.

When it comes to getting a decent paying job it is who you know as opposed to what you know. I wouldn't have obtained the job I have now without a good friend of mine because many employers do "backdoor" hiring where they'll hear from an existing employee their friend is looking for a job. Or they might have a friend that works at XYZ Inc. (just an example) and the friend gives word-of-mouth they're looking for someone to hire.

It costs employers time, energy, and money to put out ads online and in the paper because they're trying to fill the void while juggling the act of running the company.

Its become more of a word-of-mouth market and unless you know someone who can potentially pull you out then chances are you'll be swimming in the sea of job hunters.

It sucks but all you can do is keep trying and maybe talk to friends to see if they might know someone who can give you job leads.

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Don't forget, I'm not even protected under the disability act, if I get sacked solely based on my disability that's ok and I get punished for it too. Oh you didn't go to an appointment you were supposed to, eh you do know I can't swim... literally they were sitting outside signing peoples names off and rebooking the appointments.
Doesn't Australia have a law that protects people with disabilities?

You do have a diagnoses.

I didn't know there was a criteria for a hearing aide. That sucks. I thought it was to help people hear normal who have below normal level hearing.
 
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In my experience many companies no longer accept paper applications. Applying is done online-only.

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This has also been my experience. As an autistic, I cannot fake social skills or emotions I don't have. I cannot act like I think it's the greatest fucking thing that I'm potentially being given the opportunity to make minimum wage at a multi-million dollar company that doesn't give two shits about me.

Guess I need to call the Office of Vocational Rehabilitation again, seeing someone was supposed to contact me and never did.
"As an autistic, I cannot fake social skills or emotions I don't have"

"As an autistic"

I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome at a very young age and showed every sign/symptom in the book to the point that I was in numerous special education classes and occupational therapy during my elementary/middle school years, now I'm working at a job where I deal with customers on a regular basis and I can feign a positive attitude just fine with them even when I'm feeling my worst. Know your shit before you start speaking for others.
 
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