That toolbar at the top is really, really long.

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This is something that's been kinda egging me on for a while. It was present on the old TBDL too.

Basically I think there are too many buttons on the bar on the top. It makes my Firefox running in fullscreen mode @ 1024x768 have the dreaded horizontal scroll bars, which tends to make navigation a little hard. It also sticks out the side of the page which is a little bit ugly. Is it possible that you could consolidate some of the links into menus so as to make that nav bar less... intrusive?

I think a good way to re-organize it would be:

  • User CP
  • Other sections
    • Blogs
    • Answer Pages (Wiki)
    • Galleries
    • Links & Downloads
  • Members list (text changed to Memberlist for shortness)
  • New Posts (stats show on hover using <a title="...">)
  • Search
  • Quick Links
  • Log out

--Danny :ninja:
 
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chevre

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I get the same thing here running @ 1200x1024 because I don't browse with my browser maximized. Though, it never seemed to happen to me on the old site.
 

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My cached pages from the old TBDL scroll slightly farther horizontally than the new version. BTW, if Moo wants those cached pages for recovery purposes or to get an idea of what all was installed on there, I'll try to zip the pages up and upload them somewhere.

--Danny :ninja:
 

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Strange. The toolbar looks just fine for me at 800x600 resolution...
 

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It's a bit long for me too. I see the S in Search, and I have to scroll form there.
 

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I agree with Danny's idea for a new toolbar layout it would work alot better.
 

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If I have my browser maximised I can see everything over to 'Search'...to the right of that I would have to scroll (which I seldom do).

Why not use some of those LINKS at the TOP where it says "link link Drop down link link link link link" for things like User CP and Donate and Members List etc and keep things like "Blogs" "Live Chat" "Wiki" "Galleries" etc in the second row of links...I mean otherwise why have all those nonfunctioning 'links' in the first place? It would certainly look much neater, and would be more functional for the users...I would think.

Just a thought.
 

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If I have my browser maximised I can see everything over to 'Search'...to the right of that I would have to scroll (which I seldom do).

Why not use some of those LINKS at the TOP where it says "link link Drop down link link link link link" for things like User CP and Donate and Members List etc and keep things like "Blogs" "Live Chat" "Wiki" "Galleries" etc in the second row of links...I mean otherwise why have all those nonfunctioning 'links' in the first place? It would certainly look much neater, and would be more functional for the users...I would think.

Just a thought.
Heh, I added the second navbar at the top so that custom entries could be split between the two navbars, with each navbar taking half of the entries.

You must have loaded the page while I was customizing the navbar, and thus it still had the default "link, link, link, link" example text there.


I had hoped to post here with a "ok, solved that with a second navbar" post, before anyone noticed the second navbar (it was up for only a few minutes before I made this post).
But, of course, ayanna noticed it and posted about it before I could :p
So much for my surprise :p
 

ayanna

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Sowwies...if I had gone to the wiki thing first (where I've finally uploaded all my diaper making stuff) I probably wouldn't have noticed...but may I be the first to say...w00t! Much better now...things are more easy to find...and no scrolling is necessary!
 

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lol, I was wondering why it said link four times in a row!
 

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I know it isn't good practice, but I tend to do my experimental tinkering on the live version of the site, rather than on a separate backup copy.
The reason for this is that I'm a fan of the minimal overhead style of development. If I had to duplicate this website, test, and then convert my modifications back to working on the real website... developing the site would take me twice as long, and thus it would take me twice as long to solve the requests you guys make.
Personally, I think that very rarely encountering "Link! Link! Link!" (or similar minor display glitches) it is worth it if it means your requests get addressed within 24 hours. :)
 

chevre

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This is where version control comes in handy :p. Anyway, no worries. The new setup looks much better.
 

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Yes; I was going to suggest pull-down menues but the current solution is much better. Way to go Moo.
 

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Looks great! One suggestion though:

Code:
.tborder#topnav {
  border-width: 0 1px 1px 1px;
}
And change the id of the table between the two nav bars to "topnav". Just sort of a minor tweak :)

--Danny :ninja:
 

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Looks great! One suggestion though:

Code:
.tborder#topnav {
  border-width: 0 1px 1px 1px;
}
And change the id of the table between the two nav bars to "topnav". Just sort of a minor tweak :)

--Danny :ninja:
So, that just makes the border around the upper navbar thinner?

With regard to the ninja smiley... see here.
 
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