Terms of Service Agreement on Diaperspace

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Bambusa

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So I was reading someones blog today and they noted the following about diaperspace.com's terms of service agreement:

"C. As a member posting Content to any public section of ABDL DiaperSpace Adult Babies & Diaper Lovers, You automatically grant, and you warrant and represent that you have the right to grant, to ABDL DiaperSpace Adult Babies & Diaper Lovers a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to copy, perform, use, display and distribute such information and content and to incorporate into other works of, or prepare derivative works of such information and content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."

Apparently any the owners of diaperspace can use any photos or videos you post for their own profit. I think this is disgusting. Anyone else have any insight into this???
 

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Sounds like what they had on Facebook. I think they removed that though, because so many people complained.
 

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Wow... Can you believe I usually just click accept and never read the terms of service? O_O
 

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I can't believe anyone would join that, to begin with.
 
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who ever reads 19 pages of legalease when no money is involved?
 

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who ever reads 19 pages of legalease when no money is involved?

Maybe you should...unless you want to find your diaper pictures printed on the cover of some book available in every bookstore on the planet...just because you didn't bother to read subsection 4c, where it says that DIaperSpace has the right to "copy, perform, use, display and distribute such information and content and to incorporate into other works of, or prepare derivative works of such information and content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."

Peachy
 

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[font="Calibri,Arial"]Thats actually a common enough term on social networks. And forums. And blog hosts. In fact, if the T&C of ADISC is still the vBulletin default, it might be here aswell. [/font]
 

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I usually scan through the TOC's before I sign up to anything.
 

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Eh, I paid more attention to Diaper Spaces ridiculous terms of service that told me I can't post links, and I can't tag my own pictures with my email address.

That site is quite ridiculous, but it serves a purpose.
 

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Friendface.co.uk - a great new site for meeting people! - Heh (For any of those that follow the site)
And there is I wanna Cuke! And there is also another one, I forget... But It's not Reynholm Industries.

But yeah, This is why people who post their works have to be careful of these things. It's pretty standard really to see that sort of thing on loads of sites. I sign up and break the rules regardless anyway, and don't upload anything.
 

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That makes me think of bad things. They could easly sell somthing to a gay porn site. There should be somthing done and done now to these @3#%&*. :)
 

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That makes me think of bad things. They could easly sell somthing to a gay porn site. There should be somthing done and done now to these @3#%&*. :)

Just don't sign up with those places in the first place. If you don't feed them information, they can't use it against you in the future.

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TOS' are finally receiving their due scrutiny. I watched an excellent report by David Faber, of CNBC, regarding the state of monitoring in the US. To say it was an eye opener would be an understatement. For what it's worth here's my viewpoint.

Even if TOS' offer the protection that appears pro-consumer who's to say that someday your information wouldn't be jeopardized by malicious intent? Sure there's legal action. But at what cost? If you're an ABDL and the information is already public there is no "making you whole." You will forever be compromised. So what's the advice? Never post anything that can be used detrimentally against you. Your intent may be innocent and the posting may very well be innocent but out of context use of postings don't let the facts get in the way of a good story - particularly when you're talking about a community that is broadly associated with pedophilistic roots - ALTHOUGH we are not.

I have been criticized on numerous occasions for never posting a "head shot" picture or disclosing my RL name. Most believe this to be insincere. For me it has nothing to do with honesty and everything to do with protecting confidentiality, civil liberties, and my career. So always remember that even on sites that are diligent about information that it is a dynamic world. Those protections can disappear with one disgruntled employee or in the name of "good intent." How many times have we seen good intent result in unintended, OR intended, consequences that include significant privacy and civil liberties infractions. For these reasons I will continue with my practice of using my virtual presence and maintaining clear separation between it and my RL. Ironically I think those who do this are more genuine because they recognize the inherent danger of acting otherwise.

I haven't mentioned the bigger risk which is another member that uses your RL information without consent. You may be friends with someone now but what happens if you inadvertently upset them? You could easily become the target of misunderstood anger in the form of vengeance. Additionally, TOS' are irrelevant when presented with a subpoena. There are numerous groups that work very hard to dissolve ABDL sites, including legitimate ones like ADISC, as a result of not understanding the community. This site may be legitimate but not in the eyes of the majority of our society. Our society is so aggressive in the name of protecting children that civil liberties and facts are often steamrolled under the guise of child protection. Just think about it.

For those younger members - always think before you post. Always be aware of your virtual footprint. It's hard to say this since I don't want to convey that your desires in this community are unhealthy. They likely are not. However your understanding, and others in the ABDL community, are irrelevant to the majority of society and particularly potential employers.

Always ask questions when you hear about new "protections." Often the good intent is framed in a way that the average person says "who wouldn't support this." However, when implemented the new "protections" often have more downside than upside. Always be diligent with your vote and apply critical thought to all decisions. Don't just buy into rhetoric.

Great example, although not directly related to the privacy issue, is the bankruptcy reform of 2005. It was framed by our Congressional "representatives" as being a legislation that will minimize dead beats that walk from debt. Most people, including myself, bought into that. In reality it was legislation that is universally known to have been written by the financial industry. It contains complete protection for the financial industry at the expense of consumers/citizens. Let me ask you something - how important is your credit score? Very. It is based solely on information about you. However the formula is not disclosed to consumers. We get generic anecdotal information about it but never full disclosure. Why do you think that is? Guess who supported and was a champion for this legislation? None other than JOE BIDEN. Yeah - the same Joe Biden that has self proclaimed himself to be the czar of working families. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - never vote on rhetoric - EVER. Always hold our representatives accountable.

The bankruptcy reform of 2005 and the consistent sell out of consumer identity protections are just examples of a long history of our government selling us out. We need to hold them accountable. Vocalize your concerns to your representatives and vote on the facts - not the rhetoric.

As they say - the road to hell is paved with good intent.

Here is the link to the CNBC program referenced above:
Hulu - CNBC Originals: Big Brother, Big Business - Watch the full episode now.
 

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A whole bunch of stuff

Wow...impressive one would write so much for such a short topic.

I've heard numerous legal reasons surrounding such a cause in a Terms of Service. I doubt that people have any ill intent surrounding them, to much effort to simple get some pictures you could get with a google search.
 
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Well, it takes a certain kind of person to post diapered pictures of themself on a fetish site to begin with, imo. And who uses their real info when they sign up for crap like that? ha
 

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There is a reason that people are leaving diaperspace in droves.

DLTown is a much better place to be IMO.
 
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