Suicide

[Vladimir]

No, I'm not gonna commit suicide... -_-

I'm just wondering why people do it for such stupid reasons... For example, I know someone at my school whose father committed suicide about a month after they came back from their round the world trip because he couldn't stand a normal life anymore... That seems horrible.

 

[MrE]

It's quite hard to really know why some people do it.
Some people just feel that they have failed and that there is only whatever lies beyond death as an alternative.
Some people do it because they cannot live with things that have happened.

In Japan it is quite normal for people to commit suicide after doing something dishonourable. I think I remember hearing about how some mechanics that failed to find a key fault on an airplane all committed suicide.

There is also the odd religious mass suicide or pressure from the religion. The worst one that springs to mind was the Jim Jones cult in the 70's.

To be really honest there are many different reasons for people to do it or contemplate it and it's the 2nd biggest killer of young people in the UK (after road deaths I think)

 

[Sawaa]

I did it because I couldn't continue to live as the person that I was forced to be. Fortunately, I was unsuccessful in ending my life as a physical entity, but I did manage to kill off the person I used to be. From the ashes of that, Sarah was born and I've never been happier <3

 

[Kraiden]

BECAUSE NO-ONE HAS EVER FELT PAIN LIKE I HAVE IN MY 14 YEARS OF LIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFEEEE~!!!11

Seriously, it's for a number of reasons. Of course, you've got those weak willed people who just do it because their life in in the crapper, and they're in the mindset it can only get worse. For me, personally, I think taking your own life because your spouse broke up with you, or you lost your job, etc, is a pretty weak way to go, TBQH. It's kinda hard to explain my views on this.

However, we do have the people who commit suicide for *real* reasons. I'm not saying that suicide is OK, but there are some things that I think can drive people to suicide, or certain situations where suicide is the only way out. Someone might be suffering from a severe case of manic depression, or even worse, Schizophrenia. Then we've also got the whole debate over Assisted suicide / Euthanasia when someone will undoubtedly die, but only after a few weeks / months in total agony.

It's a tough thing to try and draw a line over what's a selfish, unneeded suicide and a suicide with some sort of purpose.

 

[Mink]

It's evolution at it's finest.

 

[Gingy]

I got the scaries that this was a suicide note before I red the first line. (really)
I think its mostly that they have mental problems. 2 girls in my school attempted suicide, but were caught (phew!). They both turned out to be. Bi-polar.

 

[link]

i wanted to kill myself when i was 5-8 years old, and i think i've finally pinpointed why. even now, i still hate me, but i don't live for me. i live for others without a care what happens to me. at the ages 3-8, a child is egocentric, meaning they cannot comprehend that other people can be hurt by your actions. at that age, all i knew was me, and i hated me. thankfully i never did end my life, and now i'm happier than i've ever been. everythings only gone uphill for me, and i don't see a peek yet.

 

[avery]

what if someone in your family was schitzophrenic, and suddenly became possessed by an intense desire to kill themself? what if they refused any help, refused to see a therapist, and insisted on taking their own life? in a situation where someone is so mentally ill that they're not in control of their own thoughts and actions, isn't coersion necessary? would you let someone you love die, even if their suicidal feelings are the product of an illness and not their actual personality?

the tricky thing with that, though, is that suicidal thoughts are technically classified as a mental illness by the DSM. that's why anyone who attempts suicide, even if it's for a perfectly logical, rational reason, can be locked up. and i think i agree with you that that often winds up silencing people who are afraid to speak up and get help.

 

[andysetra]

All I have to say is, it's a shame that someone who is in this painful situation is unable to see any hope, because there always is hope. Even if they are living with unbelievable pain that is so isolating and sad, there is still hope. The problem is that it is hard to be able to imagine anything better when you're in that state. The person could have a loving family, people who care for them, a bright future, but inside, just feel an unexplainable pain that doesn't go away. There needs to be more public awareness of this...to show that it doesn't make you a freak, or crazy, or anything like that, and that getting help CAN improve things. I had the worst couple of years of my life in elementary school (grades4,5,6). Partly because I was picked on (it's hard to look the other way when the *entire* playground/school population is chanting at you...), but also because I had seasonal depression. After about grade 7 or so, things picked up and, even though I wasn't in the popular crowd or anything in high school, I have great memories wouldn't trade it for the world. But it's hard to be able to imagine *any* of that when you're depressed.

 

[FluffyFluffers]

People do it for all reasons some really stupid. Some reasons are; religion, hate, fear, mentality, parents, bad grades, loss of friends, abuse, drugs, sorrow, hurt, tragedy, pain, media, reputation, rules. There is no one reason for it and sometimes they don't show it they don't talk about it or show signs. Also one of my friends one day told me he had tried to kill him self in the past. Honestly I would have not believed him if he did not show me the scar down his wrist. Surprised the shit out of me. Stoped me were I was walking.

And I like a few others have come close to killing myself a few times. (one of the reasons I used to cut.) One of the most recent was about a month ago. I was thinking abut going home an od'ing with vodka and some med's during the weekend Shitty day really bad lost a few friends, nearly got arrested, and expelled for shit i did not do, had the principal yell at me after I gave her honest answers twice and shit. Bad day no one knew about this. very few know still.I think there were only a few reasons I did not do it one being my friends and family the other being I had a lot of my friends see that something was wrong and cheered me up. Not the whole story.

BTW: I am better now a lot happier and a lot better off after that lil incident. I do have a few people I talk to (no it's not shrinks just friends). And I also have a plan if something like that happens again.



If any thing is confusing just tell me.

 

[Martin]

An other thing is that depression isn't rational. It will blow things out of proportion and makes it seem like all the bad things in life are WAY worse then the good things. The suicidal person needs to trust you fully before you can help them (and vice versa)!

 

[Raccoon]

I knew this kid in grade school...I'll call him Jim... He was intellectually smart, streetwise smart, athletic, and with an iron will. We used to have a nationwide fitness test for which you got badges: bronze, siver, gold, award of excellence. I still remember the test where you had to hold a chin-up with eyes in line with the bar. 3 or 4 minutes past the required time for the AOE Jim held on, refusing to give up... He was the ultimately cool kid, liked and admired by everybody. There was no need to take a vote; everyone thought him most likely to succeed.

He killed himself. Nobody knew why.

 

[Lordluke]

If u are an Aussy dude and are having bad feelings there is help available

Hi guys

If u are in Australia and u feeling low there is help available, its never too late to chat to someone. U can find some one to chat to at www.reachout.com.au

give it a go

cheers

Luke

 

[Target]

maybe they belive in a better world after death

 

[Aidy]

yeah, and in Aus. there's Kidshelpline as well if you're under 18 which is a good service.

Suicide is an illness. Animal instinct makes you want to preserve your life and there's only a few times when animals will actively put themselves in a positioin where they may be killed, namely for their young.

I've had 2 suicides in my family and I don't ever think of them as having killed themselves. I think of them as having been sick and succumbed to their illness.

The worst thing about suicide is how badly it hurts the people who love the person. My mum raised my uncle from when he was born till he was 8 and suicide sad to her that he wasn't happy. She thinks she could have helped him more. His suicide was basically caused by a car accident he had when he was 18 when he had to learn to walk, talk and toilet himself again. Took him a year but after that he couldn't deal with problems on his own. He'd always have to talk to my mum about his problems.

He got married, had a kid, and when he had had 1 wine (not exactly a huge volumn) he shouted at his wife... Just shouted. It made him hate himself so much that he killed himself.
If he hadn't had the car crash his brain wouldn't have been wired that way.

I blame the media for my cousins death. The media killed her. They used a picture of her in a story about fat people. She wasn't fat, she was actually very healthy looking.
Her brother went and beat the reporter who wrote the story and was sent to jail but the reporter dropped the chargers when he found out the reason.
The worst thing is that her ex-boyfriend had decided that he really loved her and had bought her a ring and was going to propose to her. He put her ring in the coffin instead. He attempted suicide as well but luckily failed. He felt so guilty that he hadn't proposed earlier.

Suicide is just like cancer or any other illness, the people need help before they succeed and doctors have to do their jobs when people say they have been thinking of killing themselves instead of just going .. aha.. aha.. because they get so many false alarm from different cultures in todays society that use depression and apparent thoughts of suicide to climb the social ladder. (cough cough... the super emos .. (not normal emos who just dress that way and listen to the music) .. cough cough)

 

[d4l]

i think the thing about suicide is you can't unferstand it until you have been on the edge of the brink looking down wanting to end it all. I do undertand what it is like to want to end it all. I don't see at an illness because all the treatment in most cases is going to do is put a smiley mask on the situation. But i guess in the end i was glad i never went through with it although there are time lately i were i do feel like i would just rather end it all.

 

[Aidy]

It is an illness.

"All the treatment in most cases" for one doesn't make any sense for one.

And I think most treatment helps if it isn't drugging them into numbness like they tried with my uncle.

I've had 3 friends who were suicidal, 2 who attempted more then once and they swear by the treatment that involved their whole family and social networks.

 

[Tigger]

Allot of people will say "oh it's so selfish of someone to do a thing like that", but they just don't know. When you get to the point where you want to kill yourself there are no rational thoughts in your head, it's the only thing that pops up in your brain. You just keep thinking "I should be dead, I should get a knife and slit my wrists". Or you think of harming yourself, thinking it will make you feel better. The thoughts sometimes pop into your head over something very silly, but more often than not it just comes to you all of a sudden. Like with me: I am extremely happy, then all of a sudden I get depressed or angry and start hurting myself or thinking of suicide. Nothing triggers it. Sometimes it's possible to block out the thoughts, or simply ignore them and find something else to do, but sometimes they are so strong that you have no control over yourself and can't control what you do. That's when people kill themselves or do other harmful stuff.

 

[Ren]

Suicide is, in a desperate person's view, the one, and only way to escape his problem(s). Since he/she sees no other way out to his problems death is the ultimate, desperate reason.

For some people, some of these problems may seem easy to solve, but in the eyes of the person trying to commit suicide, there is, simply, no other way.

 

[Angelicus]

Yeah, suicide has crossed my mind more than once. I use to try and plan it out since I was not happy with my love life. However, when I found out I liked boys, I became much happier with myself. Personally, I think that suicide can be preventable and be helped. If someone does tell you that they have thought about it, ALWAYS LISTEN TO THEM! They would *most likely* end up doing it. I know, I've been there and helped them out, and I will tell you, it's a dreadful experience hearing it come from one of your best friends.

Hope for the best to everyone!
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