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http://www.adisc.org/forum/showthread.php/85309-The-Hate-on-ABU

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Everyone keeps coming here and realizing ABU is a bad site because people keep reading this and keep changing there ways from the dreaded website. I was going to ask if anyone thinks this could be a sticky Thread maybe on EC+ or diaper talk that way if someone want's to make an ABU purchase they can refer to this thread and say "Nah never again"
 

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I've had good experiences with abu.

I don't think Snivy is talking about customer experiences.
He's probably referring to the fact that they're basically legal-kiddie-porn peddlers. They sell magazines for around 60 bucks apiece full of half-naked children wearing diapers. That is not advertising their products, that is selling a product (Child pornography). I think he means we should get the word out that ABU is a bunch of sick fucks and people should stop buying their products and supporting their twisted 'business'.
 

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I don't think Snivy is talking about customer experiences.
He's probably referring to the fact that they're basically legal-kiddie-porn peddlers. They sell magazines for around 60 bucks apiece full of half-naked children wearing diapers. That is not advertising their products, that is selling a product (Child pornography). I think he means we should get the word out that ABU is a bunch of sick fucks and people should stop buying their products and supporting their twisted 'business'.

Damn you are my brother snivy, but anyway yeah that is true and now I see who Hogan moved this thread to EC+. ABU is probably one of the worst out there after many stories I've heard (I'm glad I never shopped there)
 

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I don't think Snivy is talking about customer experiences.
He's probably referring to the fact that they're basically legal-kiddie-porn peddlers. They sell magazines for around 60 bucks apiece full of half-naked children wearing diapers. That is not advertising their products, that is selling a product (Child pornography). I think he means we should get the word out that ABU is a bunch of sick fucks and people should stop buying their products and supporting their twisted 'business'.

I'm not an ABU fan but let's not confuse them with the other company that actually sells catalogs of kids in diapers. ABU did use a cropped image from them and either partnered with them briefly or at least shared a shipment of diapers but their business is at worst an accessory, not a practitioner.
 
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I have to say that I had never known what the fuss was about.

I agree that ABU does not seem to be in any way affiliated or involved with the other company. I do not know about history.

When I thought that it could not be that bad, I had a quick search for the other company and I have to say I was horrified.

If that was my kids I would be absolutely enraged and demand retribution (not that I would ever even get close to letting them be part of anything that even smacked of that). It cannot be legal can it? No parent would willingly let their kids pose for "catalogues" in that manner (bearing in mind I only saw a front cover and don't know what was inside).

Anyway, I do think that there should be a complete boycott, from everybody with even a shred of a conscience, of the other company (even to mention their name).

I don't see the link to ABU, but if they are associated ,I agree with a boycott. I just don't see the link and apologise if I just have not been around here long enough.
 

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I'm not an ABU fan but let's not confuse them with the other company that actually sells catalogs of kids in diapers. ABU did use a cropped image from them and either partnered with them briefly or at least shared a shipment of diapers but their business is at worst an accessory, not a practitioner.

Well these guys still FUND Kiddy Porn crap though through their sales of the mentioned products...

So I'm all in favor for making this a sticky and keeping the warning VERY visible to everyone.
Actually if it puts them out of business... hell yeah - about time.
Accessory to kiddy porn? out of business would be a mild thing.
 
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Well these guys still FUND Kiddy Porn crap though through their sales of the mentioned products...

So I'm all in favor for making this a sticky and keeping the warning VERY visible to everyone.
Actually if it puts them out of business... hell yeah - about time.
Accessory to kiddy porn? out of business would be a mild thing.

I absolutely agree if they are selling the other companies product.

I didn't see it on ABU's website though. Is it just me? (Quite possibly as I am fairly new to the DL online world).

Please help me see the link to ABU and the other site (pm me if it shouldn't go on this thread. I have no desire to, in any way, enhance the exposure of the other site or their products).

I fully support a boycott of the other site and anybody associated with them!
 

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Well these guys still FUND Kiddy Porn crap though through their sales of the mentioned products...

So I'm all in favor for making this a sticky and keeping the warning VERY visible to everyone.
Actually if it puts them out of business... hell yeah - about time.
Accessory to kiddy porn? out of business would be a mild thing.

How do they still fund it? As I said, I don't like ABU, but I don't see a clear and ongoing link back to the other company. I find their past association, awful customer service, and deceitful behavior here enough reason not to give them business. If you have something clear, I'd be interested to see it but otherwise, I'll stick to that which is known.
 

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How do they still fund it?

If you check the advertisements and the notes all over the website, it clearly marks everything it has to say. It's like right in front of your computer screen.
 
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If you check the advertisements and the notes all over the website, it clearly marks everything it has to say. It's like right in front of your computer screen.

I see no reference to that other company in their partners, products, notes, etc.

Also, I'm not sure why it would have to be said, but if you're going to quote me, please use what I said or cut it down to the part you're responding to but don't add extraneous text and attribute it to me.
 

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I see no reference to that other company in their partners, products, notes, etc.

It's all over the site and the tabs. Go look. It's not just me, everyone else has said the same thing and have seen them. I don't shop there obviously but to get correct information about the business of course I have to check it out. I think some of the pictures have changed to keep the business fresh but the rest are still there and exactly the same. Even crappy picture products with low-quality photos. There must be something else that is very bad about the business I am missing that everyone else keep's saying about the company I just can't put my finger on it...

Also, I'm not sure why it would have to be said, but if you're going to quote me...

P.S. I apologize for the attribute. Made a small joke I guess you didn't like. You weren't the only one I did that too. Anyway new subject...
 
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It's all over the site and the tabs. Go look. It's not just me, everyone else has said the same thing and have seen them. I don't shop there obviously but to get correct information about the business of course I have to check it out. I think some of the pictures have changed to keep the business fresh but the rest are still there and exactly the same. Even crappy picture products with low-quality photos. There must be something else that is very bad about the business I am missing that everyone else keep's saying about the company I just can't put my finger on it...

I have been over the site several times. They no longer use the images from the company in question and no one who has proposed that the link between the comanies still exists has provided any clarity on the matter. I don't see that as absolving them of their past but if it can't be proven, it's not worth making the allegation as if it were fact.

P.S. I apologized for the attribute. Made a small joke I guess you didn't like. You weren't the only one I did that too. Anyway new subject...

Thanks. I didn't think there was any malice intended but I'm touchy about misquoting for any reason.
 

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My impression is that ABU is pretty much defunct now, and this isn't necessary.
 

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My impression is that ABU is pretty much defunct now, and this isn't necessary.

Still, people buy from them. It's no wonder they are still in business!
 

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I have seen parts of the so called star diaper magazine, i dont see any thing that is illegal but it attracts pedifiles and ignorant people connect diaper waring and ab/dl with it. abu did not own or run star or did i miss something !!
 

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I have seen parts of the so called star diaper magazine, i dont see any thing that is illegal but it attracts pedifiles and ignorant people connect diaper waring and ab/dl with it. abu did not own or run star or did i miss something !!

Nah you didn't...I think star magazine was retarded (Thanks PoisonSnivy) but ABU is 20x worse with their prices, delivery dates, and everything else people has complained about.
 

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curious what did abu actually do show big kids in diapers? babies and adults ok!! did they own or fund star diapers? porn is nude and children nude is illegal did they show nude kids? because if they showed nude kiddy porn they would not be still in business!! so what the link?
 

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curious what did abu actually do show big kids in diapers? babies and adults ok!! did they own or fund star diapers? porn is nude and children nude is illegal did they show nude kids? because if they showed nude kiddy porn they would not be still in business!! so what the link?

This isn't much about what they showed but about the company they kept. They did use an image from QD that was of a child in the diaper they were both selling. The first reaction to criticism was to crop the image more closely but they finally got their own image that did not involve a child.

The images QD uses are apparently legal. This makes not one whit of difference to me. By their actions, it is clear to me they are pornographers. You can make your own decision but without having some sense from ABU that they have done wrong and will make an honest effort to be better both in judgment and in customer service, I can't have anything to do with them, even though as far as can be shown, they no longer have anything to do with QD.
 

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http://www.adisc.org/forum/showthread.php/85309-The-Hate-on-ABU

(Must be an EC+ to read it)

Everyone keeps coming here and realizing ABU is a bad site because people keep reading this and keep changing there ways from the dreaded website. I was going to ask if anyone thinks this could be a sticky Thread maybe on EC+ or diaper talk that way if someone want's to make an ABU purchase they can refer to this thread and say "Nah never again"

ABU appears to be going out of business, so this isn't necessary.

If they're still in business in a few months, I'm sure the topic will come up again.
 
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