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LostPup

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I'm not saying that all people hate short form typing cause most of them do it but come on people you dont have to negrep them just because they ehter spell wrong or type short form,I can understand if it exstreamly bad spelling,but alot of people go by how it sounds and if you never went to kinder garden then maybe thats why you people for typing like that or short form typing,i bet that every body when they first started to write and spell they started by sounding it out,alot of people still do it and so its not fully correct spelling but it's not goign to kill u to sound words out every other word but you know wat deal with it cause its a big habbit that some people cant break,I go tnegrep cause of this twice and you know what who ever did it,you can keep nevreping me all you want you an't going to stop me form typing the way i do,negrep is my positive rep so keep them coming.


i like alot of people here and im hoping im not getitng on their bad side by doing this,im not lookign to be banned or anything but im just sick and tierd of people complaning"your spellign is horriable use spell check or somthing." i'v figuerd out that my spelling dose get better when i don't use spell check and im not using ever..

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Even for being a grammar-and-spelling Nazi, I have to agree with you -- I find it a little poor that people would be giving you negative reputation for spelling. We all make mistakes. Who knows, you might not be a native speaker of English, or there could be other factors involved. Regardless of whether or not this is the case, it's the honest content of your posts that should be reputed, not your spelling.

And besides, you do seem to honestly contribute as much as you can! A lot of people pick on the spelling of those they know that won't stick around ... but you're alright by me, ruffie, and I hope that this can be taken care of in an easy fashion.
 
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Yeah, I agree that it's not cool to jump on people for poor spelling, as long as you can understand what they're saying. But really, if you are in high school or have finished school, you should be able to spell most of the words you would use in casual conversation and know how to use an apostrophe, period, comma, etc, unless you have a learning disability or English is not your first language.
 

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If by short type you mean abbreviating it that is stupid to neg rep for. Same with slang and some net talk like lol and a few others but when it gets to u its bad. I also think grammar and spelling is bad to do it for especially since allot of places have different forms of English.
 
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The problem isn't so much with bad spelling, than it is for punctuation and grammar. Well, for me it is anyway.

You can make all the typo's under the sun and people can still get a gist of what you mean. But typing without any punctuation (like one big paragraph, no full-stops, incoherence, etc...) really makes it infinitely more difficult to read and no one really wants to go to any effort for a task that should have been made easy back in grade 1-2. Not to be rude or anything, but I'm just suggesting spelling should take a back-seat to grammar and punctuation. After all (as the old saying goes), it's not what you say, but how you say it.

And neg-repping for bad language skills is just demeaning. I don't think I've ever done it for bad writing. However, I would if it was totally unintelligible, or if it was clear that the person specifically went out of their way to type it like that, or(!) the entire post is in IM/Text Message-speak.
 

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I couldn't even read that dude.

Learn proper grammar. Break things up into sentences. Or at least seperate your thoughts and learn to spell.

u c its vry hard tor ead when u buchur wordz int he engrish lang and dont evar punchtuate r even try to speel anythin write espeslly when u mak a long n wordie post tryin to xpres urslef 2 othr pepul who hav no wai of noing what u r saying othr than by giving themslefs a headache rackin there brain 2 figur outw hat u meen I culd go ona nd on ando n about this problum that pepul onlinz seem to hav but I bet u arent even readin this far down n2 teh paragraf 2 c whut i has 2 say becuz u dont care nemor about what I had 2 say int he frist plac u c pepul respekt ur opiniunz mor if u take teh time 2 aktualy hav a care adn chek over the thngs u tukt he time to typ out but if u dont care thin y shud ne1 else even bothur readin whut u has 2 say in teh 1st place becuz they cant undrstand it at alla nd i cud go ona nd on n on aboutit but it iz obvious that u dont care enuf about whut u r writin to mak it so it culd be red by sum1 els so it eventualy turns n 2 ramblin n blahblahblah soo n adn so 4th

Point being... if you are going to take the time to post your thoughts... Please please PLEASE have a care and make it so others of us can read it, comprehend it, and then formulate some kind of opinion about what you have to say. Babbling on and on unintelligably is just a waste of space.

Thanks!

Edit: And no... I don't give people neg rep for butchered posts... I typically don't waste my time reading them.
 
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ruffie, i really hope you're reconsider your decision not to use spellcheck. i've noticed that your posts are very difficult to read, and contain a lot of typos, spelling errors, and almost no grammar. it's quite rude to post things that you obviously haven't proofread or spellchecked. i'd really advise you to work on making your posts more legible, as a courtesy to the people around you.

on the other hand, bad spelling is one of the most ridiculous reasons for having -2 reputation i've ever heard! why are we all being so horribly mean to each other all of a sudden?!? is there a strain of rabies running through the forum or something?

for crying out loud, people, if you have a problem with someone just TELL them about it, and save the negative rep for the creeps and pedos and liars who actually deserve it. it really seems like there's a whole lot of hatred and negativity going around this forum lately.
 

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I'm one of the people that gave you a negative rep, whether others agree with me or not.
I'm not a spelling nazi, and I have absolutely no problem with spelling mistakes, considering I make a few of them myself. However - when a post is illegible, and it looks like the person is just being lazy I don't see how you can have an excuse for that.

lol i gusse so but it drives me nuts liek when i had diapers i could feel the urg an di would go and get a pair on and sit down and w8 abit talking on the java chat and i would feel it come but it wouldnt come out,i was liek come out u st*pid son of a*itch,,,i hate uuuuu.and ill just give up and stand...im such a failure...lol
That there, is laziness. I can understand spelling a few words wrong, not knowing which punctuation mark to use ect... However, I can't read that, nor am I going to try. So I think that my neg. rep was justified, despite others opinions.
 

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oh yes i don't use the period as often as i do with the comma but come on dark wat the hell do u think your doing critizen by typing way past and and moking people that do spell bad.i understand alot of my post are long and use mostly comma's and hardly anything ealse,but man some thing must of crawled up your butt and died for you to do somthing like.

i admit my grammer is quite bad,i can admit,i know im not ogood at it i dont need people giving me negrep and or moking me on wat i do and blowing right past the way i do it.

i say im sorry for my bad grammer in the past,present,and future.
 

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u c its vry hard tor ead when u buchur wordz int he engrish lang and dont evar punchtuate r even try to speel anythin write espeslly when u mak a long n wordie post tryin to xpres urslef 2 othr pepul who hav no wai of noing what u r saying othr than by giving themslefs a headache rackin there brain 2 figur outw hat u meen I culd go ona nd on ando n about this problum that pepul onlinz seem to hav but I bet u arent even readin this far down n2 teh paragraf 2 c whut i has 2 say becuz u dont care nemor about what I had 2 say int he frist plac u c pepul respekt ur opiniunz mor if u take teh time 2 aktualy hav a care adn chek over the thngs u tukt he time to typ out but if u dont care thin y shud ne1 else even bothur readin whut u has 2 say in teh 1st place becuz they cant undrstand it at alla nd i cud go ona nd on n on aboutit but it iz obvious that u dont care enuf about whut u r writin to mak it so it culd be red by sum1 els so it eventualy turns n 2 ramblin n blahblahblah soo n adn so 4th


I don't think that is ok but this is a support community. We shouldn't get upset over not comas or no caps. No punctuation and using nothing but net chat talk though is not ok on a proper forum. I think the mods/admins need to figure out where acceptable bad grammar turns into unacceptable for this for. Is no comas ok? Is some net talk ok? these and other things are where the limits need to be made but i think that is mod territory.
 

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That there, is laziness. I can understand spelling a few words wrong, not knowing which punctuation mark to use ect... However, I can't read that, nor am I going to try. So I think that my neg. rep was justified, despite others opinions.
i agree -- that post is totally illegible and like you i would never waste my time trying to read it.

but can't you just skip it and move on? was it even worth the time you took out of your life to pause and give him negative rep for it? the only reason i can see for doing that is because you wanted to antagonize and upset him. if you actually wanted him to proofread his posts it would have been much more productive to tell him that in a post or a PM.

giving negative rep for an inconsequential reason like that just spreads hatred and negativity around our community.
 

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Then why not take the negative rep away? As far as I see it, my neg. rep got the point across a whole lot more than it did if I just told him. And if that is the case, than I guess I have to take away all the positive rep I give for "Well Formed, Intelligent post!" I give out those quite a bit. I think if you are going to take the time to post, do it correctly. And I still stand by the fact that I gave him negative rep, if I didn't think so, I wouldn't have posted it was me.
 

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Given your repetitive offenses, I do believe the negative rep was well given. Why should we need to translate your post because you were to lazy to speak in proper English? Save the Vowels!
 

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Then why not take the negative rep away? As far as I see it, my neg. rep got the point across a whole lot more than it did if I just told him. And if that is the case, than I guess I have to take away all the positive rep I give for "Well Formed, Intelligent post!" I give out those quite a bit. I think if you are going to take the time to post, do it correctly. And I still stand by the fact that I gave him negative rep, if I didn't think so, I wouldn't have posted it was me.
i give positive reputation for well-formed posts too; but it's a logical fallacy to assume that i should therefor give negative rep for a poorly-formed post. they're two seperate things.

as much as we hate to admit it, giving positive rep to someone tells them that you like them and value the things they contribute to the forum, while giving negative reputation tells someone that you dislike them and wish they'd leave. that's especially true when the person already has a negative reputation score and your point is pushing them deeper into the red. a lot of people would dispute that, i realize, but if you took a poll i think you'd find that that's the way most people feel about reputation, for better or worse.

i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. but i'll say again that i think you (and all the other people who have been spreading around so much negative rep lately) need to lighten up.
 

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First of all, I don't want to waste time to *carefully* read EVERY post that isn't typed correctly, because it's VERY troublesome, especially considering that English takes me about twice as much time as French to read, and if it isn't typed correctly... Well, it's very irritating.

Also, as a few people mentioned, it's not necessarily the spelling, it's the grammar. If you don't add commas or periods at the right places, it takes me EVEN MORE time to read and it is VERY, VERY, VERY irritating when I have to take the time to identify every single word in a sentence because I can't understand anything by reading at a decent speed. Anyone whose native language isn't English should understand what I mean.

I think it's dumb not to check posts' grammar and spelling, as you can take as much time as you want to type a new post or thread in a forum (most of the time). Plus, there's a spellcheck thingie in Firefox and Microsoft Word, as well as many other tools, it doesn't take more than five minutes to check your spelling and grammar. Easy enough.
 

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Yes, Avery, I guess we do have to agree to disagree. However, I would like to point out that I have never given someone negative rep because I don't like them, and if I'm not mistaken I have given negative rep to those I have also given positive rep too. I also sign my rep (There have only been a few times I haven't.) So if people need to discuss it with me, they can do so. However, this was an exception, (obviously.)

I think that is part of the reason people need to put a reason for their rep, positive or negative. I give reasons, therefore the person knows -what- they got the rep for, and can either continue what they are doing, or improve, (Of course, their choice.)
 
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All I'm going to say is, Mandi you are full of yourself, along with every other person complaining about spelling. It's the internet, get over it.

"Internet is srs bisines amiright?"
 

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Negative-repping for poorly-worded posts, bad grammar, and bad spelling is mean, plain and simple. You don't know if they're lazy; what if they're dyslexic? There's any number of reasons someone may post poorly. It's important to post in at least good spelling because there's free spell checkers (FF comes with one), though.

If you didn't ask first, don't negative rep.
 
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I know that people make mistakes and that not everyone around is going to be a Pulitzer Prize Writer. So along those same lines, I do not feel that being overly critical of people for making such mistakes is the correct thing to do.

However, when you post something that is full of mistakes and is actually hard to read and comprehend, you are showing a lack of respect for both those you wish to read what you have written as well as yourself. You should always strive to do your absolute best and if that means running your comments through a spell checker then you should take advantage of such a simple tool.
 
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Fallen, it's not "just" the internet. When I see a post that is so full of grammar, punctuation and spelling errors that it is difficult to read, that tells me that the person who typed it didn't think what they were writing was important enough to even try to make it easy for me to read. It'd be like writing a book and having it printed in size 6 font. Sure, people can struggle to read the tiny print, but why not just make it larger? Furthermore, I have to wonder how a person gets to that point in the first place. writting lick ths is harder for me becuz I learned stanard inglish and punctu8shun & grammer in shool and tht is wht i red in books so y is ths the norm 4 u didnt u lurn anything in shool?

When people say "it's just the internet, so I'm not going to bother to make an effort to communicate clearly," well, that sets up the slow death of common languages. 100 years ago, elementary school students wrote lengthy essays in school and gave speeches on political topics of the day, now 80 percent of them don't know the difference between too/to/two or your/you're, so what's it going to be like in another 100 years? Just type a bunch of miscellaneous characters and assume everyone knows what you're saying? If the best you can do is hardly legible, how do you expect to write an impressive college essay? Or fill out a job application?
 
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