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I was cleaning up and found Red Hat Linux 9 . I dont know much about Linux at all. Is it any good?
 

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Nope. Go try Ubuntu if you're noob to Linux. If you know a thing or two about computers then try Arch Linux. Red Hat Linux is for the corporate work place.
 

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Linux is only good for servers or running hardware security. Though there are some nice touches to Linux such as its security, it just really isn't a viable operating system for me and I can honestly say that it probably isn't for you either unless you simply cannot find a copy of Windows.

The business world runs on Windows, while the servers run on Linux, and the collegiates tend to prefer the stability and user accessibility and ease of OSX (Unix)
 
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Red Hat Linux is still going strong at companies as a server OS, and possibly as the "desktop" operating system of choice at many universities (Our university uses SuSE by Novell, though). The reason why companies use it is the paid support available through Red Hat, and most hardware vendors have drivers for Red Hat if they support linux. The free version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (Fedora) has a pretty big userbase, too.

You probably don't want to use the box of Red Hat Linux you found. You could download a current version of Fedora if you want to use a Linux distribution from Red Hat, but as others have said Ubuntu seems to be the better choice because it's far more widespread and targetting people not used to Linux. If you were to use the box of Red Hat Linux 9 you'd have a hard time getting current software to run on it, because the prepackaged software that you can install with just one click (Firefox, pidgin, VLC, whatever) will be very old or not available at all. With a current version of Fedora or Ubuntu the version is usually the most current, and you automatically get updates for all the software you installed on your PC if they release one (instead of having to use auto-updaters like on windows. You might know them from Firefox or Opera. And only a few other programs support auto-update on windows, anyway. With linux, every software you install with one click supports it. And even the downloading is done by the operating system for you :) )
 

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I tried using it on a laptop and i it said that it could not detected a hard drive. I didnt even try to fix it. Right now I have PC linux OS on my desktop. It seems very easy to use.
 

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Linux is only good for servers or running hardware security. Though there are some nice touches to Linux such as its security, it just really isn't a viable operating system for me and I can honestly say that it probably isn't for you either unless you simply cannot find a copy of Windows.

The business world runs on Windows, while the servers run on Linux, and the collegiates tend to prefer the stability and user accessibility and ease of OSX (Unix)

I've been using Arch Linux now for about a year, maybe more? It's way better for me than Windows. Now, I do have a LEGAL copy of Vista Ultimate x64 that I use to play my games, but other than that I prefer Linux =) It's 1000x more customizable if you know what to do lol.
 

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So I downloaded Linux Ubuntu and I have to say its different. I like it though. Although trying to install somethings is hard. Thanks for the advice guys.
 

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Installing something on Ubuntu is easy as in Windows easy. Just sudo apt-get install XXX. How hard is that?

Though, maybe I've just not used it since the 5.10 days, but still it's easy to use I think.

ArchLinux 64 FTW
 

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It's probably easier than in Windows. Since you're new you may as well use Synaptics (gnome) or Adept (KDE). Then you can just point and click to install all sorts of things.
 

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Ok I installed wine for linux and when I tried to run a exe. file it said


[/home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe]
End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not
a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the
latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
the last disk(s) of this archive.
zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe or
/home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe.zip, and cannot find /home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe.ZIP, period.
 

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Ok i figured it out. I didn't realize you have to right click the exe. file and click open with WINE. I think WINE is a pretty cool program.
 

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I've been using Arch Linux now for about a year, maybe more? It's way better for me than Windows. Now, I do have a LEGAL copy of Vista Ultimate x64 that I use to play my games, but other than that I prefer Linux =) It's 1000x more customizable if you know what to do lol.

There's just too many problems with Linux. Like I said, it's a fine OS for certain tasks but if you're a normal user who checks e-mail, browse the internet. That's it however.

Good luck finding up to date drivers from nVidia and ATi, software support from most companies, and once you do get everything up to date and properly working, there just simply isn't much to keep you using Linux.

To the original poster: If you aren't used to software troubleshooting, get used to it with Linux because you're going to find yourself tweaking various settings to get things to work the way you want them. Or at least I did with Fedora Core 3 and 4. Never bothered with Ubuntu because I don't have much incentive for trying it out since it's left a bad taste in my mouth.

It's fun to play around with though, but the novelty wore off fast.
 

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Ok I installed wine for linux and when I tried to run a exe. file it said


[/home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe]
End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not
a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the
latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
the last disk(s) of this archive.
zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe or
/home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe.zip, and cannot find /home/dakota/Desktop/Thunderbird Setup 2.0.0.21.exe.ZIP, period.

Erm, why exactly are you installing the Windows build of Thunderbird? You do realize it runs natively on Linux, right?
 

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Yeah but dont you have to go though the command line to do so. I am COMPLETELY new to Linux. I mean I have used it before for a week or two but never installed and
 

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Not at all. If you're on Ubuntu, locate the Synaptics package manager in your Gnome system menus (not sure where it is exactly -- I'm on Gentoo right now). It should be pretty easy to find.
 

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So now I am trying to install Java on Linux and I keep running into problems.

I am using the java websites installation manual to try and install. I keep running into a problem. Instead of trying to explain I took screen shots

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That's because the /usr/java or w/e dir doesn't exist. That's just an example, hint FOR EXAMPLE before it.

I believe you could make it now and install in there, but if you skip down to the steps that tell you to chmod the file and then ./ the files it will create the dir itself inside the /usr/ dir. I can't really read what it's saying though, the pictures are to small lol.

But, I thought Java was in the Synaptics Package manager on Ubuntu o_O
 

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Ok and yeah i looked in the Synaptics Package manager and found it. Thanks
 

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I still would try installing things via the terminal as that's the "Arch Way". Arch installs w/o any bloatware or a GUI so yea. Don't try Arch until you've become real comfortable with Ubuntu.

In the Arch IRC people will say "Go to Ubuntu nub" lols. It's in the BOT's defined phrases if you say a certain thing lol.
 
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