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diaperedteenager

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What do you think would be harder?

Leading a Capitalist rebellion in a Communist country

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Leading a Communist rebellion in a Capitalist Country?

I say choice 1
 
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I'd mix and match the best parts of both systems.
 

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It would depend on the will of the people. If the majority of people in the communist country hate communism, it would be easier to lead a rebellion there.
 

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Numero dos. Because people are greedy like that and don't want to share stuff.
 

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All I can say is good work my fellow Americans, you elected an inexperienced idiot that doesn't even have the manners to wear a neck tie even though he's the face of our country and therefore represents us. At least Bush wore a full suit most of the time. Not that I really care for either of the two.

Oh, come on now. What does wearing or not wearing a tie has to do with anything? I seriously doubt that not wearing one at all times will send signals of weak leadership to the rest of the world. It certainly hasn't to me. On the contrary, it makes the guy seem down to earth and human.

By your line of thought, what do you think of an African president wearing a kashiki? Or, god forbid, an Arab politician with a keffiyeh?

Now that I got that out of my system, let's get back on topic :biggrin:
 

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First no doubt. Police powers are always more pervasive in a Communist nation then a capitalist one. Personal and economic liberty have gone hand in hand.
 

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Lets see China is turning capitalist and they are communist. The US is heading towards socialist and its capitalist. I don't think either country really knows its happening.

I really hope your kidding, do you know what socialism is? No offense but if you think the US is heading towards a socialist society you're retarded, right now the US is nothing close to a balanced or equal society.

I just realized how off topic that was, well I guess this is a pretty touchy subject so to prevent any drama, even though it's a bit hypocritical, I suggest we keep to the original subject of the thread.

To answer the original question I personally think a rebellion would be more successful in a communist to capitalist revolt. I think it would work out better this way because more people seem to be in poverty in communistic societies and if the opportunity presented itself I think a majority of the people would revolt to gain capitalistic society just for more opportunities of success.
 

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I think that no matter what system you live under, there were always be people who think the grass is greener on the other side. Its built into our greedy human psyche to covet what others have.
 

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Where money is God, I imagine it would be almost impossible to turn the clergy away from the all-powerful dollar.
 

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Well the capitalists are either killed or they flee when the communist nation comes into power... So if you were a capitalist, you would be saying "fuck them, I'm never going back there again" or you would be dead...

That would be harder...


If Adalph Hitler could lead the Nazi party (simmilar to communism), anybody (with a ton of charysma) can.
 

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It would depend on if the capitalist system was totalitarian or not. If it wasn't It'd be easier to stage a rebellion, if it was, it'd be the same.
 

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Well the capitalists are either killed or they flee when the communist nation comes into power... So if you were a capitalist, you would be saying "fuck them, I'm never going back there again" or you would be dead...

That would be harder...


If Adalph Hitler could lead the Nazi party (simmilar to communism), anybody (with a ton of charysma) can.


Most capitalists wouldn't be able to escape and would just lie to stay alive. Further more, not just anybody can lead political parties. If your sugesting the Adolph Hitler was an uneducated idiot that some how came to power, you're wrong. Hitler was a brilliant polotician, who was able to take his peoples' anger and focus it on a certain group, such as Jews, Gypsies, ect., and in doing so he not only brought his people together but gained a posistion of great authority. The only thing that could have made Hitler's régime stronger was if he left military matters alone for his generals to deal with or to the very least listened to them.
 
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Historically scenario 1 has probably proved easier - but that has a lot to do with communist states collapsing due to structural weaknesses, the capitalist or "limited government" revolutions were just part of that process.

I'm not sure that a communist revolution has ever happened in a fully developed Capitalist society - Russia and Chile would seem to be the closest examples - and I'd be unhappy with applying the label "communist revolution in a capitalist country" to either of them for all sorts of reasons.
 
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It depends.

The more difficult one to break away from will be the one where women participate in a gynocracy.
 

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The most difficult one to break away from will be the one where men participate in a patriarchy
 

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It depends.

The more difficult one to break away from will be the one where women participate in a gynocracy.

We just need an army of eunic clones with Midol guns!


-Disclaimer: This is purely sarcastic humor, not trying to insult ;p
 
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The most difficult one to break away from will be the one where men participate in a patriarchy
No, men are pretty easy to topple.

Women--in the absence of an outside woman to promote up-chain over the previous ones--are much more difficult to unseat.
 
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