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So I found out my friends house was raided by the police and they confiscated all his computers including my camera that I left over there. I have been trying to debate on whether or not I should go to the station tomorrow and see about information on getting it. I do not know why they raided his house. What is everyones thoughts and opinions on this?
 

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I don't think it could hurt to ask about it. But depending on the reason they where raided they may question you a little. Also, there is a very good chance they are going to require some sort of proof the camera belongs to you. Whether that be a receipt, license number, or call up your friend to confirm it's yours.
 
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As per brabbit's advice.

The primary reason the filth steal items like that is because they have reason to suspect they are; 1/ the tools of criminal activity, 2/ the proceeds of same.

Your aquaintance does not sound like much of a real friend. If his amnesia is something he is trying to forget, he should still have his copy of the search warrant to remind him why his gaff was turned over".
 

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I'd go in and do so. Course, in my town everyone knows the cops and every cop knows everyone. We are one of those we look out for our own people type of towns. Heck our mayor hangs out at the golf club, drinks, smokes, swears, gambles, talks with the people, and rarely has to argue with anyone. As for the cops, friendly guys even when pulling you over for speeding. So best of luck to you.
 

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I don't think it could hurt to ask about it. But depending on the reason they where raided they may question you a little. Also, there is a very good chance they are going to require some sort of proof the camera belongs to you. Whether that be a receipt, license number, or call up your friend to confirm it's yours.
:iagree: I hope you get your stuff back
 

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Unless it's worth a lot of money or you really need it, I'd hold off.

If your friend's getting his door kicked in, I'd want to stay as far away from whatever mess he's in as I could. When the dust settles it _might_ be worth going to claim your property.

That's my take anyway.
 
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Unless it's worth a lot of money or you really need it, I'd hold off.

If your friend's getting his door kicked in, I'd want to stay as far away from whatever mess he's in as I could. When the dust settles it _might_ be worth going to claim your property.

That's my take anyway.

Yeah, this. I'd want to know what the story was/is before getting in the mix...... heaven forbid your camera was being used for something illegal. That could conceivably expose you to all sorts of hassle.

Lawyers are expensive, even if you didn't do anything.
 

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Unless it's worth a lot of money or you really need it, I'd hold off.

If your friend's getting his door kicked in, I'd want to stay as far away from whatever mess he's in as I could. When the dust settles it _might_ be worth going to claim your property.

That's my take anyway.

Yeah that is what I was thinking. If I go in and he did something with the camera and go in and tell them it is mine then I may suspected of it too. I can't afford it trying to become a firefighter and all.
 

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Unless it's worth a lot of money or you really need it, I'd hold off.

If your friend's getting his door kicked in, I'd want to stay as far away from whatever mess he's in as I could. When the dust settles it _might_ be worth going to claim your property.

That's my take anyway.

Yeah, this. I'd want to know what the story was/is before getting in the mix...... heaven forbid your camera was being used for something illegal. That could conceivably expose you to all sorts of hassle.

Lawyers are expensive, even if you didn't do anything.

There is nothing more the law hates, than when people wait without any actual good reason. If anything, I would say that would make the person look more suspicious.

Point of the matter is, unless the OP did something, he has nothing to worry about. Being questioned and answering the questions honestly is simply the best thing he could do. If he has nothing to do with what was going on over there, it will be known.

Yeah that is what I was thinking. If I go in and he did something with the camera and go in and tell them it is mine then I may suspected of it too. I can't afford it trying to become a firefighter and all.

Yes, but if you are suspected of it, they will simply question you. They are not going to detain you or anything, and it should have absolutely no effect on you becoming a fire fighter. Also as I said, waiting may make you more suspicious if something was done with the camera. If you didn't do anything, there is no reason for you to wait.

It's the same reason when someone runs from the cops, they automatically assume the person running is running because they broke the law. They instantly become a suspect because they did something suspicious.
 

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There is nothing more the law hates, than when people wait without any actual good reason. If anything, I would say that would make the person look more suspicious.

Point of the matter is, unless the OP did something, he has nothing to worry about. Being questioned and answering the questions honestly is simply the best thing he could do. If he has nothing to do with what was going on over there, it will be known.



Yes, but if you are suspected of it, they will simply question you. They are not going to detain you or anything, and it should have absolutely no effect on you becoming a fire fighter. Also as I said, waiting may make you more suspicious if something was done with the camera. If you didn't do anything, there is no reason for you to wait.

It's the same reason when someone runs from the cops, they automatically assume the person running is running because they broke the law. They instantly become a suspect because they did something suspicious.

Will they tell me what the seize was about?
 

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No and it is best not to ask about it. The moment you do, they'll find you suspicious
 
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Will they tell me what the seize was about?

Not necessarily...

The Police are people too... and, law enforcement is a complex thing... I wouldn't make any assumptions one way or the other...

Short of some prank or revenge kind of thing (see: "SWATTing")...

The Police are generally required to have what's called PC (probable cause) and, in cases like what you've described; often a warrant may have been issued by a Judge to search the premises...

While you may hear stories to the contrary... you usually won't get your door busted down by the Police, on a whim (USA)...

If this does happen, then obviously the wrong kind of attention was drawn... even if your friend is otherwise innocent of particular crimes, the company he keeps and, those he associates with may have put him under suspicion... perhaps one of his other friends got busted for something and, threw this one under the bus... still though - you would need the advice of a criminal attorney to sort it out...

Short of that... if you have been complacent of strong suspicions of crimes done by your raided-friend or, you actually have known of any crimes... You could be implicated as an accessory, before or after the fact...

You'll likely have to answer as to why your camera was left with him... Did he borrow it? Did you forget it? What's on the camera? ... can you be sure?

I would agree to a degree, that if you are truly innocent of everything involved (except, perhaps a poor choice in friends)... you would be better off to step-up and request the return of your property... if it does become evident, that the camera belongs to you and, especially if it was used in conjunction with a purported crime... you'll be answering to it anyway... and not at the time of your choosing...

Ultimately, it's up to you however, positive action is usually regarded more favorably than deliberate inaction...

You might see if you have some sort of free legal aid in your area to discuss this with or, get a consultation with a criminal attorney...

I hope that I've helped,
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Like it or not, you are screwed.
The police are going to ruthlessly come after you, since it is guilt by association.
 
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Like it or not, you are screwed.
The police are going to ruthlessly come after you, since it is guilt by association.

We really can't be sure of that or, anything about this... at the end of the day, it's all speculation on only the information that we've been given (which really isn't much) and, from a single perspective too...

-Marka
 

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Will they tell me what the seize was about?

Not really sure. They might if it's necessary. If they only took computers and your camera, I assume they are looking for information and evidence. However, if that is the case they maybe required to keep the camera for a while. The only other reason I can think of why they would take these things is if they thought they where stolen goods.

Either way, you probably shouldn't go out of your way to stick your nose into their business and ask about it if it's not mentioned. Best thing to do is just ask about the camera, with the proof it's yours and be on your way. If they need to keep it as evidence for the time being, then I suppose it would be ok to ask at that point considering it is your camera. I am not 100% sure on how these things work.

But as I said earlier, you really shouldn't need to wait to ask about your camera. It is yours after all.

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I also have to say Marka has made a really good post :3 Go with what she said, couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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The police will not tell you why they busted your friend as it will be an ongoing investigation. The bigger concern is, are there pictures of you on that camera, or family and can the camera be traced back to you. Often police take cameras because a lot of criminals are so stupid that they take pictures of their own crime scene to impress their friends. If the police also took computers, one has to wonder if your friend was into child pornography. I would try to distance myself as much as possible and hope for the best.
 

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The police are gathering evidence for a possible trial against your friend. Since the camera, computers and anything else of possible interest was confiscated, they aren't likely to give it back until at least their initial investigation. Don't ask for it back and if your friend is innocent, they will give him back everything after they close their investigation. If it goes to trial, then you may not get it back until it is over. Also, since they are building a case against him, friends and acquaintances will be interviewed. You may get to talk to the police soon anyway at which time the camera may come up. If there's no incriminating evidence on it, then they may give it back to you then.
 

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The police are gathering evidence for a possible trial against your friend. Since the camera, computers and anything else of possible interest was confiscated, they aren't likely to give it back until at least their initial investigation. Don't ask for it back and if your friend is innocent, they will give him back everything after they close their investigation. If it goes to trial, then you may not get it back until it is over. Also, since they are building a case against him, friends and acquaintances will be interviewed. You may get to talk to the police soon anyway at which time the camera may come up. If there's no incriminating evidence on it, then they may give it back to you then.

Wouldn't it seem kind of suspicious though if they find out the camera is his and he never came forward to claim it? I don't know exactly know where you people seem to assume he shouldn't ask about it, as it seems like a perfectly logical thing to do. Again, he has nothing to hide so why would it be a problem? If they need to keep it for evidence, they will tell him that.
 

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Wouldn't it seem kind of suspicious though if they find out the camera is his and he never came forward to claim it? I don't know exactly know where you people seem to assume he shouldn't ask about it, as it seems like a perfectly logical thing to do. Again, he has nothing to hide so why would it be a problem? If they need to keep it for evidence, they will tell him that.

I'm not saying don't ask for it. I'm saying let the investigation go forward. It seems to me if you're in too big of a hurry to get personal property returned, you may look guilty as well. The police may wonder why he wants his camera back so soon. Is he involved in some way? Is there evidence on the camera? No, best to let things rest for a bit imo.
 

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The police will not tell you why they busted your friend as it will be an ongoing investigation. The bigger concern is, are there pictures of you on that camera, or family and can the camera be traced back to you. Often police take cameras because a lot of criminals are so stupid that they take pictures of their own crime scene to impress their friends. If the police also took computers, one has to wonder if your friend was into child pornography. I would try to distance myself as much as possible and hope for the best.

There were not pictures of me or information of me on the camera BUT there were a lot of backups of my EMT certificates and similar stuff on the servers.



As for the lack of detail. I gave you all the information I know about it. He wouldn't tell me anything and his grandparents just said that they confiscated his computers. THey gave his granparents back there computers already but not his computers or my camera. I will probably end up going monday or tuesday unless someone wants to drive me there today. SO much fun. Two weeks before this my house had items stolen from me so this is has been stress after stress.
 
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