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I'm endlessly searching the internet for a decent plastic backed nappy.
I currently use the tender care night all in ones but the quality has gone further down hill and the nights are just as thin as the day pads now I think. I don't wet much but I would like the padding and fluff to stay together and not clump up like the tender cares do.
A few years ago I used the old style Attends, the ones with the M printed all over and the then the ones with M9 printed on. Since Attends changed to active I haven't liked or used them. They used to be brilliant!
I've looked at the lille 'classic' and the 'supreme' and I'm wondering are they the same product?
Some manufactures use cloth side panels and a plastic body like vlesi slips which I don't like.
I found on here last night someone mentioned Gompels pads, I've never used or heard of this supplier before, it's not clear on the site if their nappies are plastic backed or not, has anyone used Gompels before and what is their product like?
 

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Attends still make the Regular + 10 which is still plastic backed. There are also a lot of plastic backed nappies available again that weren't for a time, like the Abri Form M4. Another popular one is the ID Slip Super (PE Backed) which won't be discontinued. These are all more absorbent and better quality than the Tendercare nappies.
There are options, just have to have a look around a bit :)
 

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Why do they need to be UK-based? Save Express in Germany have an amazing range at fairly reasonable prices.
 

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Why do they need to be UK-based? Save Express in Germany have an amazing range at fairly reasonable prices.

There seem to be quite a lot of people in the UK who never think of ordering goods from mainland Europe, or if they do, dismiss the idea as if it were just as expensive as ordering from the US. Island mentality I suppose. We are the country that produced the headline "Fog in Channel: Continent cut off" after all.
 
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The Gompel diapers are rubbish, the capacity is way over stated and the fit is very poor.Abri form 4's are available from certain places or ID slip PE are decent high capacity diapers.
 

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Why do they need to be UK-based? Save Express in Germany have an amazing range at fairly reasonable prices.
Sometimes comes quicker and cheaper than uk sites
 

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Sometimes comes quicker and cheaper than uk sites

The diapers tend to be cheaper, although postage is more expensive. Maybe it depends how much you're ordering, I suppose -- I never thought of that. Worth checking, though.

And I think my last order took two days to arrive (with the cheapest option). There aren't any customs delays like there are with orders from outside the EU.

After Abena officially stopped production of the plastic-backed Abenas a few years back, and other manufacturers followed suit, it felt like I had no choice but to import them. But in the end it was no more hassle.
 

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Thanks for the replies people. I've never ordered from Europe before, I have imported some vehicle electrical products from America a few years ago and had to pay vat at the delivery centre when I collected them so that might of put me off due to the faffing around.
I've tried boots nappies, years and years ago they were brilliant, all white with a orange stripe up, fully plastic backed including the wings.
The boots and ID nappies now have fabric sides to allow breathing which I can understand but I want all plastic covering including the wings.
The capacity issue isn't really a problem as I don't really wet much, it's more a comfort thing with me rather than how much can a nappy hold. I like the fluff to not fall apart and cause lumps here and there.
Thanks for the input so far, my quest continues.....

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So are the Abena M range back to being plastic as the last sample I got was cloth like, tried it on for size but it did nothing for me so it got binned...
 

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The ID Slip Super is still all plastic and they don't have any plans to change this they've said.
Abena is still making the plastic backed M4 and L4s for some clients alongside the M4 and L4 Premiums, so they aren't going away anytime soon either :)

You won't have any import duty to pay however if you do order from the EU (assuming you are in the UK), but shipping does take a few days
 

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Thanks for the replies people. I've never ordered from Europe before, I have imported some vehicle electrical products from America a few years ago and had to pay vat at the delivery centre when I collected them so that might of put me off due to the faffing around.

There's no "faffing around" inside the EU -- VAT is collected (if necessary) at the point of sale and there are no duty or customs charges... which means that there is no need for a customs declaration, so you don't get a big label saying "adult diapers" on the outside!

So are the Abena M range back to being plastic as the last sample I got was cloth like, tried it on for size but it did nothing for me so it got binned...

Abena officially discontinued the Abri-Form plastic-backed diapers a few years ago. The new Abri-Forms have a cloth-like backsheet. At the same time, they introduced the Premium (aka Air Plus) range, which is essentially the same as the Abri-Forms, but with a breathable backsheet.

However, a lot of people weren't happy with Abena dropping the plastic-backing, and some American vendors put pressure on Abena to continue producing the "level 4" (i.e. M4/L4) plastic-backed diapers.

So UK-based diaper retailers generally sell only cloth-like-backed Abenas. Every now-and-then a very small UK vendor might appear with some plastic-backed stock, but it's generally hard to get the plastic-backed Abenas domestically -- especially from a "reputable" company for a "good" price..

Some of the more "specialist" (ABDL-aware) vendors in Europe now seem to have access to the unofficial plastic-backed supply chain. I've no idea how. Abena still insist that they don't make plastic-backed diapers (last time I checked, anyway).

On the plus-side, Abena discontinued their "bodystockings" (onesies) in the US, but they are still available in Europe.

So, yeah... despite my initial hesitation, importing diapers from the EU seems to be the only way to get hold of "good" (and plastic-backed) ones now.
 
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"So UK-based diaper retailers generally sell only cloth-like-backed Abenas. Every now-and-then a very small UK vendor might appear with some plastic-backed stock, but it's generally hard to get the plastic-backed Abenas domestically -- especially from a "reputable" company for a "good" price.."
Sorry I have to disagree with that statement, they are available from a number of reputable stockists in the UK. sure they are less widely available than in the past, but you can get them.

You mention the bodystocking, I note there have been changes made to the design of some of the types, in that the popper buttons have been swapped and now overlap from the back.

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There's no "faffing around" inside the EU -- VAT is collected (if necessary) at the point of sale and there are no duty or customs charges... which means that there is no need for a customs declaration, so you don't get a big label saying "adult diapers" on the outside!



Abena officially discontinued the Abri-Form plastic-backed diapers a few years ago. The new Abri-Forms have a cloth-like backsheet. At the same time, they introduced the Premium (aka Air Plus) range, which is essentially the same as the Abri-Forms, but with a breathable backsheet.

However, a lot of people weren't happy with Abena dropping the plastic-backing, and some American vendors put pressure on Abena to continue producing the "level 4" (i.e. M4/L4) plastic-backed diapers.

So UK-based diaper retailers generally sell only cloth-like-backed Abenas. Every now-and-then a very small UK vendor might appear with some plastic-backed stock, but it's generally hard to get the plastic-backed Abenas domestically -- especially from a "reputable" company for a "good" price..

Some of the more "specialist" (ABDL-aware) vendors in Europe now seem to have access to the unofficial plastic-backed supply chain. I've no idea how. Abena still insist that they don't make plastic-backed diapers (last time I checked, anyway).

On the plus-side, Abena discontinued their "bodystockings" (onesies) in the US, but they are still available in Europe.

So, yeah... despite my initial hesitation, importing diapers from the EU seems to be the only way to get hold of "good" (and plastic-backed) ones now.

40ft containers aren't small amounts of stock hehe :)
 

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Sorry I have to disagree with that statement, they are available from a number of reputable stockists in the UK. sure they are less widely available than in the past, but you can get them.

Oh, really? I haven't looked recently, but in the past I mostly couldn't find any plastic-backed Abenas in the UK. Got any tips for where to get them? :smile:
 

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Tiny, nappiesrus.co.uk have plastic backed Abenas in stock (and Tena at the moment).

Another vote for ID Slip Super, quite a good plastic backed nappy that is very absorbent.
 

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The Gompel diapers are rubbish, the capacity is way over stated and the fit is very poor.Abri form 4's are available from certain places or ID slip PE are decent high capacity diapers.

Well, I ordered a single pack of medium nappies from Gompels and they arrived next day in a box with a picture of a nappy on the side. My stomach turned when my neighbour passed me the box because I was out.
The nappies are nice. All white, soft and comfy, as I wear for comfort only I find them nice, the capacity maybe low but I don't need massive absorbency.
 
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The capacity is massively over quoted on the Gompels, i'd say around 400-600ml working capacity on nappies they advertise at 3000-3800ml, the fit is rubbish on the large, they sit low and are impossible to get a good fit with.
I have around 6 packs, that I'm going to bin, free to good home!
 

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The prognosis for us plastic-backed fans in the UK certainly seems to have improved with the combined effects of the return of some brands (or continuation of plastic versions that had been under threat) and the increasingly attractive purchasing options from mainland Europe. Two years ago I was stockpiling Tena Slips - then my regular daytime nappy for work and play - while lamenting the loss of the traditional Abri-Form and wondering how long the Molicare Super Plus would hold out. Yet my last Save Express order included not only some of these old favourites e.g. Molicares, M4s & Tena Slips, but also brands that I wouldn't have known / tried when I was focused on availability within the UK, such as the rather nice Kolibri Comslips. I can't fault the service, apart from one or two days extra lead time it's as easy as ordering from a UK supplier and the prices offset the shipping cost. It really feels now that I can have everything my heart desires and my bottom needs.
 

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I vote for the id slips. They are a great plastic backed nappy, I would choose them every time
 
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