Pedophiles (Poll #2)

How should we treat pedophiles who molest children?

  • The death penalty.

    Votes: 30 24.2%
  • Life in prison.

    Votes: 36 29.0%
  • A long prison sentence.

    Votes: 22 17.7%
  • Other.

    Votes: 25 20.2%
  • I'm unsure.

    Votes: 11 8.9%

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Siege89

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Long prison sentence.

If the person admits to the crime, help should be given to them during the prison sentence and there should be mandatory and regular help for when they're out.

If they deny then it's harder, but I think they should have to be assessed psychologically and treated regardless.

I'm against the death penalty and I don't like life in prison. Prison is (or should be) for rehabilitation first and foremost, but should serve justice.
You ever see the movie clock work orange??
 

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Death penalty: Yes there are some people who deserve to die, and without whom society is better off. But it is the application of this principle where things get screwy: there is only one standard in criminal law though it varies place to place. And the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard is fallible, especially with circumstantial evidence, even eyewitness evidence. Intent is not always gauged right. First degree and Second are legal niceties that make a big difference. The upshot is there really are false accusations and wrongful convictions and until THAT is taken care of, we can only afford to err on the side of caution.
 

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You ever see the movie clock work orange??
Yes.
I'm definitely not supporting anything like what happens in the film, I'm talking about the type of treatment that currently happens now (in Britain), although I'm not certain about what the after-prison care is.

I'm talking about group therapy and counselling; learning to control oneself.

I didn't mean "help" and "treatment" in a creepy, evil genius type of way.
 

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I know Peachy will be shocked by this, but I tend to agree with him. I think pedophiles are mentally ill, and continually are driven to do that which they do. It would be better to treat them as such, and see if their behavior can be changed, If not, then they should not be allowed to be among society where they would continue to hurt children.

As someone else said, each case has to be considered on an individual basis. What did the predator do to the victim? Was it touching, exposing, oral, penetration? What were the age differences, was there consent? Was it the first time, or were there many times. I think the one thing that frustrates me is when judges release sexual predators so that they can repeat again and again, with more and more lives being hurt or ruined.
I see where you are coming from, but I would mych rather see then horrifically tortured and tormented by society, make them do hard labor, put them in the town center and have people abuse them. The children that they target do not deserve to be molested, it will ruin them for the rest of their life, so we must torment the molester as horribly as possible!!!
 

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Death penaly if they molest 2+ children.
I like the labor camp idea for people who have only traumitized one child.
I feel that they are scum. I wouldn't feel sorry for them should this happen. Sorry if I sound a bit evil/cruel.
 

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I got it... they should reamain locked up until the child reaches 18 years of age, then they get to decide what to do to them. ;)
 
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I would reserve the death penalty for only EXTREME (not that molestation isn't very serious) crimes (1 person under 18, <2 over 18), I think the molestation of a child doesn't warrant the death penalty. I voted life sentence, they are a danger to society.
 

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I would reserve the death penalty for only EXTREME (not that molestation isn't very serious) crimes (1 person under 18, <2 over 18), I think the molestation of a child doesn't warrant the death penalty. I voted life sentence, they are a danger to society.
Exactly, since they are a danger let us "Liquidate" them now so they shall not ever ramain a threat. Plus, way too expensive to send them to prision. I know an execution costs millions of dollars, but u could cut that cost down to like $50 to just pay for one bullet and pay the firing squad.
 
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Exactly, since they are a danger let us "Liquidate" them now so they shall not ever ramain a threat. Plus, way too expensive to send them to prision. I know an execution costs millions of dollars, but u could cut that cost down to like $50 to just pay for one bullet and pay the firing squad.
So are you saying we should give them the death penalty?
 
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For those who cannot keep their hands to themselves, they are better of being isolated away. It's simple as that.
 

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I suppose it depends on the circumstances. If its that the guy was babysitting a kid, and did the nasty, then I'm all for life in prison...But pedophiles don't get far in prison, because once people find out, you are dead. If it's like a mental problem where it wasn't like premeditated, but more like impulse, and it can be PROVEN, then I am all for a long sentence in a mental hospital. Definitely not the death penalty.
 

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I think they should spend life in a mental institution. Pedo's definetly have a serious mental problem if they want to molest children. They definetly need to be locked in a padded cell to protect the public.

I seem to have a fear of mental institutions, so maybe that's why I think it'd be the worst possible punishment for Pedophiles.
 

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Exactly, since they are a danger let us "Liquidate" them now so they shall not ever ramain a threat. Plus, way too expensive to send them to prision. I know an execution costs millions of dollars, but u could cut that cost down to like $50 to just pay for one bullet and pay the firing squad.
The cost for the death penalty is so high because of legal issues. By cutting the cost down to, *sigh*, $50, you're talking about getting rid of the appeal process, and probably the whole damn trial.

Your world:
Kid gets molested.
Somebody shouts: "Who did this?"
Somebody points at a random guy, "him?".
$50 later...
"Kay he's dead down, yay"


I question whether it makes sense to deal with a threat by simply *killing it*, as opposed to *fixing it*.

Ideally, molestation wouldn't happen in the first place, and paedophiles would be able to receive treatment easily without fear. That's far off from happening though, because people let their hate for paedophiles overwhelm their desire to keep children safe.
That's what really annoys me about this whole issue:
paedo hate > child love.
 

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I voted other as I have a solution.

An area should be built with houses, stores, and other local conveniences that someone might need to survive off of. Have the area under guard by police officers from keeping people from escaping. Put all of the child abusers in this area and let them live among each other. You may think there are problems with this such as price but trust me, prison is not cheap either.
 

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This will sound a extreme but I believe it to be very fitting, cut their genitals off. If they molest a child they lose their right to have genitals. Do it under anesthesia so they can't whine about pain (which they deserve anyway). Maybe this could apply to all convicted rapists too.
 

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the problem with the Death penalty for pedophiles is a couple of court cases her in Calif.
one took place in Bakersfield Calif and two couples spent years in prison for molestations that never happened.
BAKERSFIELD / KERN COUNTY, CA RITUAL ABUSE CASE


the other was the McMartin Preschool case
By Spring of 1984, 360 kids had been diagnosed as having been abused. Medical exams were conducted on 150 children. There was a complete lack of the type of physical evidence that is normally seen with sexually abused children. However, the doctor performed some new tests which have since been shown to be useless as a predictor of abuse. The doctor concluded that about 120 had been sexually abused. The whole town, particularly the parents of the allegedly abused children, went ballistic. Stories of child abuse included other locations: St. Cross Episcopal Church in Hermosa Beach, CA and 8 other Manhattan Beach schools. Teachers at the schools were said to belong to a Satanic cult and a child pornography ring. About 100 teachers "were accused of child molestation and/or Satanic rituals." 5 Children were pressured by parents; CII interviewers used leading, suggestive, and repeated questions. These are the precise techniques that almost guarantee the implantation of false memories in the minds of children.

"MCMARTIN" RITUAL ABUSE CASES

Another problem is the false Allegations Of Child Sexual Abuse In Divorce Cases.
Parent trap: are false abuse charges a common tactic in child custody battles? - Free Online Library
IPT - Sexual Abuse Allegations in Divorce and Custody Disputes
 

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My take on the problems with the death penalty: Sure. I've got no problems executing those who molest, abuse or in other ways harms a child. The rapists too, should be six feet under, pushing up daisys. Then we have the murderes themselves. A tooth for a tooth, an eye for an fucking eye. Theives, corrupted business men, cut of their hands and be done with it. Racists, persons who shows an abnormal sexual orientation, and everyone else who don't quite fit into the society of us "normal citizens."

Stalin who killed of five millions of his own people had thoughts like these. Hitler, in order to fulfill his third reich wished this to be done.
The ones who will start the third world war will have some thoughts considering this.

I am in no way defending anyone by this statement, however this is to point out that I can find no way this would be a practical philosophy to solve this with. Just my two cents.
 

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To anyone who said: "Just kill them.": I completely disagree, but I can't formulate a true argument about it at the moment, so I'll leave it at that.

I said I'm unsure. It varies from case to case. Some are more able to be rehabilitated than others. If they're repentant and want to change, sure. Go that route. If they're brazen, maybe a long stint in prison and/or execution would be good for them.
I disagree with this on a technical note.

Execution will never, under any circumstance, be good for the person executed.

It will be good for society, but not for the dude who dies.

Just a technicality. :)
 

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I am not completely against pedophiles as I believe that in some ways they may be like us, I am not saying that we are all pedophiles but they are similar in the fact that we as AB/DL/Furs do not wake up and choose to be who & the way we are, some people may say its nature over nurture and vise versa but as far as I am concerned none of us are 100% certain about how we became who & the way we are and I believe it is most likely that it is the same with pedophiles, now this is where I draw the line; They cannot help the way they feel but they should learn to control themselves as alot of people say "It doesn't matter what you do in private, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else".

In conclusion I believe that as long as they control themselves then there is no real reason to hate them but as far as punishment goes for those that do not control themselves, I don't believe that the death sentence would be going to far. I believe this because I think they have ruined a very innocent child's life and I just cannot come to terms with that.

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Once they overstep the boundry of fantasy and reality I'd have to say either a long prison sentence or life in prison.

But there is part of me that feels bad about the choices that they have to face every day. I mean, like Craig just said, they are in a lot of ways like other people with certain fetishes.
 
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