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Meh, I think he's just trying to balance out his old cranky man appearance of the party, just adding some young blood to the run. He's always going on about Obama's lack of experiance, she's only held political office for two years.
 

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A couple of things come to mind:

1) It's a pretty obvious play to attract disaffected Hilary Clinton supporters who want a woman and also an attempted to counterbalance Obama's ownership of the fresh voice and energy stuff.

2) It seems a tad contradictory to build an entire campaign based around questioning Obama's experience and building McCain as a steady pair of hands when Palin has been a governor for just two years. How are they going to say that it's a bad thing for Obama but a positive for her?

All in all, I admit to knowing nothing about her but my first instinct is that it seems a very reactionary choice. The motives make sense but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
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Oh good god... a ultra-conservative, gun toting, bible thumping, former beauty queen for VP? That's a freaking nightmare. She served as chair for Alaska's oil and natural gas conservation committee... yeah, we know who is lining her pockets.
 

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Whoops. Accidentally posted this to the O - B thread. I think it was pretty wise on his part. I think it may steal a lot of thunder from Obama, just because a lot of folks were upset that Obama won the Dem ticket anyhow, and bolted over to the McCain side. I think this will encourage many others to do the same. It'll be interesting to see how the Dems respond. I am VERY excited for the election and everything leading up to it.
 

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I was really hoping for Mitt but now either way history is going to be made. Either we will have a black president or we will have a woman VP. Anyways now I got to read up on this woman.
 
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Why doesn't he just die!
He's an old man clinging to old politic with one hand and life with the other.
What we NEED now more then ever are changes.
 

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Why doesn't he just die!
He's an old man clinging to old politic with one hand and life with the other.
What we NEED now more then ever are changes.
that has to be one of the most insane things I ever heard someone say about McCain and is actually a hit below the belt. When your old and voting in like 2050 how about you just die.

Anyways I just read a short Bio on her on Fox News and yes I know that the Obama supporters are like Fox News is Republican though, well if that's true everything else is liberal. Anyways moving on. It seams that her first year governor she raised taxes on the oil industry.

So if anyone wants the link here it is. Sarah Palin Seen as GOP Rising Star - America’s Election HQ
 

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Why doesn't he just die!
He's an old man clinging to old politic with one hand and life with the other.
What we NEED now more then ever are changes.
I can see Obama's hand up your ass, you puppet. Clinging to "Hope and change" Changes? what are changes? Putting a chicken in charge is a change, eating shit is a change, smoking bamboo is a change. You don't know shit about politics. I want everyone t look real hard at your post, because that is the kind of person that supports Obama.

Anohoo, I really like this Palain woman. She should win back a lot of the more conservative republicans that McCain lost by trying to be more moderate, while at the same time get some Hillary supporters to back McCain. She is a little inexperienced, but she's only running for vice president, and still has twice as much experience as Obama.
 
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So, everyone is going to argue that it invalidates McCain's statements that there wasn't enough experience on the Obama ticket? Well, why do you think he picked Biden? Biden is an old timer who's been around. The McCain ticket already has experience.. that would be, well, John McCain!

Now, before today I admit I knew nothing about Sarah Palin. I've still got some reading to do, but so far I can tell she's a very strong woman, very intelligent, and an excellent orator. She's new to the political game, relatively speaking, and she makes it clear that she's interested in running a bipartisan operation, more akin to the classical John McCain (wish he'd get back to that.. he's been drifing to the right for a while now).

Say what you want, but in the end VP is always a balancing act. Obama was criticized for being young and having a lack of experience.. so he picked somebody who is old and is perceived as having lots of experience. McCain, on the other hand, was criticized for being an old time Washington politician who (allegedly) wasn't interested in changing anything. So, he picked a young, charismatic female who is a fresh face on the political scene.
 
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I don't know If I will get repped for this or not, her policies seem to agree with mine for the most part, however, I do not want a woman as a Pres. or Vice Pres. Given McCain's age, her becoming Pres. is possible.

I'm guessing that after this post, I will get neg'd and then she will become Pres. after McCain dies, and then be the best President ever or some crap like that.
 

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Why is it you don't want a woman to be president or vp? I personally think it would be a great thing, provided it's the right woman for the job.
 

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I just heard this one... and it doesn't suprise me... apparently her husband is one of the head honchos of Exxon.

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.
 
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Probably for the same reason as I don't want women in the military, men mainly do it, and have done it well in the past, women can, and have done so as well, and perform the same, there are just less of them.

If that makes any sense, that is.
 

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I just heard this one... and it doesn't suprise me... apparently her husband is one of the head honchos of Exxon.

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.
Guess you heard wrong.

Todd Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh also when you hear stuff, can you list proof/links here? I would actually take a look at them if you never thought I would.
 

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Probably for the same reason as I don't want women in the military, men mainly do it, and have done it well in the past, women can, and have done so as well, and perform the same, there are just less of them.

If that makes any sense, that is.
Saying this is like saying that Obama shouldn't be a presidential candidate because he's black. Although those are your feelings on Palin (and not ones that I'm going to say anything against, because I understand the nature of your expression), I think they're considerably unfair to future leaders, future voters, and future governmental development. I don't desire to live in a country purely fed off of the execution of primarily masculine politics.

As for being a representative of the GOP, Sarah Palin appears to be a fairly good choice to upkeep the Republican standards that McCain has so desperately been trying to get back to. This race being the bipartisan one that it is, I still think it's important that party-related identities still be recognized. Biden is the solid Democrat of Obama's race; Palin appears to be the solid Republican of McCain's. I think the choices that they made for their VPs were downright brilliant. If you attempt to be far too bipartisan, you're running the risk of losing a whole shitload of supporters, so experimenting with that mindset while still giving hardcore Dems or hardcore GOP supporters the die-hard representatives they want is really, really clever.

I like this Sarah Palin lady. Granted, I don't agree with everything she believes in, but she speaks to my heart as a respectable candidate.

What's for sure is that some aspect of change is certainly on the horizon -- either America will see their first black president, or they'll see their first female vice president. Either way, this is an historic race that I'm excited to see pan out over the next few months.
 

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I just heard this one... and it doesn't suprise me... apparently her husband is one of the head honchos of Exxon.

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.
That would be BP, and he is a "production supervisor" at an oil field. I'm sure he's well off for it, but I don't know that that qualifies as a "head honcho". Besides, according to wiki he worked there 18 years to earn that position. It's not like he just walked into it.
 

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Guess you heard wrong.

Todd Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh also when you hear stuff, can you list proof/links here? I would actually take a look at them if you never thought I would.
Okay... so according to wiki until recently he worked as a head honcho for a petrolium company... what's the difference?

I would consider production manager for an entire oil field a pretty big position... guarantee you he was rakeing in the cash.
 
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A couple of things come to mind:

1) It's a pretty obvious play to attract disaffected Hilary Clinton supporters who want a woman and also an attempted to counterbalance Obama's ownership of the fresh voice and energy stuff.

2) It seems a tad contradictory to build an entire campaign based around questioning Obama's experience and building McCain as a steady pair of hands when Palin has been a governor for just two years. How are they going to say that it's a bad thing for Obama but a positive for her?

All in all, I admit to knowing nothing about her but my first instinct is that it seems a very reactionary choice. The motives make sense but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
True she has only been governor for two years, but she was a mayor for 6 years and city councilperson for four years before that. Plus she isn't running for President, but for Vice President, that is a big difference.

Darkfinn I wouldn't call a manager a head honcho for any company. Would you consider the manager at your McDonalds a head-honcho at McDonalds?

adn.com | politics : Todd Palin unique among nation's 5 first husbands

Until recently, he earned hourly wages as a production operator in a BP-run facility that separates oil from gas and water. Palin was making between $100,000 and $120,000 a year before he went on leave in December to make more time for his family and avoid potential conflicts of interest. London-based BP is heavily involved in the gas pipeline negotiations with his wife's administration.
White-collar jobs in law, education or health care are typical among the current crop of first spouses, but Palin spent nearly 20 years as a blue-collar employee in the oil fields of the North Slope. And every summer he heads west to his birthplace in Dillingham to work the Bristol Bay commercial salmon fishery from his property on the Nushagak River.
Yep, sounds like he was a head honcho alright, and raking in the cash. :rolleyes:
 

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Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.
The oil companies obtain and sell goods. How are they evil masterminds, exactly? Yeah, the vice president's production operator husband has a lot of pull in the global market. Evil bastards.
 
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