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ArchtopK said:perhaps, but we know that Amouage Gold Man has Civet in it's notes and according to this: "The chemical in civet oil that gives it most of its distinctive odor is civetone, at a concentration of between 2.5 and 3.4 percent. The oil also includes various other ketones such as cyclopentadecanone, cyclohexadecanone, cycloheptadecanone, and 6-cis-cycloheptadecenone".
I don't see civetone or any of the cyclo... chemicals listed, which leads me to wonder if the Parfum means pure natural chemicals and all the others listed are synthetic chemicals?
You are basically correct which is why I'm not relying on them telling me what I want. It's the MAIN reason I built SD18, I needed a full fledged perfume base to work from. Also as described later the various cinnamals can have their own unique additions that are powerfully Rose and civet like. It's the fact we have NO 80s pampers fragrances that itself is the clue.
The perfume world SUCKS for information. The work @ArchtopK has done is the only reason this is even happening. It was a patent he found that led me to find the very old SD18.
Looking at Many perfumes I'm 100 percent sure they lie basically ALL the DAMN time. They will list things that are rash causing agents (foreshadowing) when it sorta suits them and the US has harder laws than Canada yet it's only Canadian and EU perfumes that have extensive ingredient listings... Ingredient lists have to be in order by %weight. Parfum IS being listed ahead of everything (indicating it's more by weight) but on several perfumes that have been cloned we know that they have like 2 percent in that placeholder. The companies don't really care about anything other than pissing off the IFRA https://ifrafragrance.org To be blacklisted by them means Nobody will carry your fragrance.
My looking to clone Amouage gold wasn't caring about the easy to get unregulated things like vanillins or cashmeran, it's the REALLY hard to get rash causing compounds. How do I describe this, I'm hunting for this based on things that are banned. I got switched out of pampers because of a perfume rash and was back in them for bedwetting years when they had moved the perfume to under the pad (we know now), no rash but also only in them at night. Scent is a HUGE part of a brand, if Pampers could have stayed smelling exactly the same way, they would have. Perfumes stayed the same because it's a known risk. There are 1950s era perfumes still under production now. The powerful rose notes in Amouage are partly coming from one the various cinnamals (which do not all smell like cinnamon) which are SO banned it's actually proving difficult to get them all. When even Sigmaaldrich isn't carrying them anymore, unless I want an analytical sample...
IF the secret ingredient is something I actually have to synthesize....
As the years are going by the chance of finding pampers 1980 is becoming less and less. P&G would have it locked in a vault somewhere and yet we should have seen a leak. The total lack of that specific smell means it's not being used in new formulations (big hint). FFS @ArchtopK has camped perfume counters at perfume shows looking for this (pretty sure it was him) and not found it.
Our target is moving backwards with time, SD18 wasn't a perfect match but rubber had to meet the road, 80 pampers 1 generations hence won't mean anything to them.