Lowering Drinking age?

Should the Drinking Age be Lowered to 18?

  • No, Keep the current age of 21

    Votes: 16 19.0%
  • No, but lower it to a different age

    Votes: 4 4.8%
  • Yes, but you have to be 21 to buy hard liquors

    Votes: 7 8.3%
  • Yes, Lower the drinking age to 18

    Votes: 50 59.5%
  • Other, Please explain

    Votes: 7 8.3%

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d4l

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100 college presidents seek debate on drinking age
From the Article said:
College presidents from about 100 of the nation's best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.

The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the drinking age. So far, no Washington-based schools are on board.
Where does everyone stand on the lowering of the drinking age in the U.S.

Personally i think we should lower the drinking age. At the age of 18 you can smoke,vote, and go to war. I think that you should be able to get a beer. Whether or not the drinking age is lowered there will be underage drinking and drunk driving accidents.
 

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I voted "Other - please explain". And I shall explain. I don't care. With the meds I'm on, drinking is bad. Therefore, I don't plan on drinking. Which is why I couldn't care less if the age was lowered or not.
 

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I don't know. I personally think here in the UK the age limit should be raised from 18. I know some people may hate me for this. But I would ban alcohol if I had the choice. It does nothing but makes you silly. Sure, drink it responsibly. But I hardly see why we can't switch to the vast non alcoholic beverages that are still on the market. Every time I drink its only gotten me in trouble. And I am not that drunk to do silly things. I still drink, but I get considered a cheapskate for drinking fairly slowly, drunkeness is a side effect I do not hope for. To the kids out there, trust me. Your not missing much. I think its over hyped to be honest.

But my thoughts aside with my personal drinking habbits. You will always have the trouble of underage drinking. And I don't know what dangerous situations they are putting themselves in. But I would think if they are not treating drink well, then they shouldn't have it in the first place. I can't see lowering the age will help. they will continue like they always have.

As to see if the law change will go forward? I do not know. I have no idea what the governments are like on these issues over in the US.
 

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I personally think the drinking age should be lowered to 16. It'll never happen... but I figure by that point most kids that want the stuff are getting it illegally anyways, and sneaking off to consume it. If it was legal, these kids would be at home or at a bar... somewhere at least halfway responcible... not out in the back woods or alleyways chugging the stuff down.

If you can drive, smoke, vote, and give your life for your nation... you damn well better be able to have a drink.
 

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I don't know. I personally think here in the UK the age limit should be raised from 18. I know some people may hate me for this. But I would ban alcohol if I had the choice. It does nothing but makes you silly. Sure, drink it responsibly. But I hardly see why we can't switch to the vast non alcoholic beverages that are still on the market.
Well first of all I do not, can not, but probably would not drink. Though I do know history, when you remove the ability for people to but a substance like alcohol you lose control of its use. As it is I do not know one high school that in the US the at least 75% have drank and a large % of those have Binge drank. The Government is having a hard time controlling it, and that is with allowing at 21. When you take it away it gets really messed up. Look at American history when we removed the ability of drink, what did we get out to it, Speakeasies, Black-market, The Mob, Week police informant, and moon shining, Rotgut poisoning, and NASCAR (I count that as a -BTW). All of this because we banned it.
Though I am with many others when I say that if one is able to make a choice like who will Screw up our Country next or if they want to risk their lives for others, they should be able to choose the risk their lives for stupidity. Dose this mean lowering the drinking age, well unless you want to rise voting and registration age, yes.
 

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Saw this on the news just now

1.) we can go to war, but not have a drink?!
2.) if people want to drink, they're gonna do it anyway. if it's illegal, it just makes teens want to do it MORE.

(16 would be a bit too low -- imagine me drinking some ol' Jack?! meep!)
 

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When I was a teen they lowered it to 18 because of the VietNam war the voting age too. After they raised the drinking age but left the vote. I think 18 should be the age.

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Well, living in a country where the drinking age is 18 and drinking is part of our culture, I can honestly say that this age is the absolute bare minimum it should be. It should not be lowered any further, and, in fact, should probably be raised.

Every time I go out on the weekend, there's a good chance I'll have to be stepping around vomit on the sidewalk, or broken glass, or have to avoid some drunken idiot trying to start a fight (and I've been in all 3 of these situations many times before). Most of the time, it's early 20-something year olds who are loud, uncouth and just generally too hot-headed for their own good. Just recently, a guy in my city got bashed in the street and by a group of drunken guys... he's now got to live with huge facial scarring the rest of his life, but he's just thankful he's still alive.

More so, the youth in this country have a problem with binge-drinking. The government has recently put a huge tax on pre-mixed drinks, raising the price to levels where no young person would be willing to spend without consideration. What's stupid is this that these people are now turning to harder alcohols, like spirits/liquor because it's much cheaper. The government plan has backfired and now we have even drunker people.


There's 2 problems here.
  1. These kids don't know how to handle their alcohol and they don't know how much they can take. People drink in huge amounts and think they are going to be fine. Everyone has a different tolerance to all the different types of alcohol, and a lot of people overestimate how much they are capable of before having to be hoisted out of the bar/club by their friends. I've fallen into this trap myself and I can honestly say it's led to some of the worst times of my life.

  2. It's still "cool" to get drunk and the peer pressure is there. When you're out with your friends, it's hard to say you don't want anything because they often are like, "C'mon! It'll be good!" etc... Leading you to feel isolated and anti-social if you don't drink. A lot of young people give in to easily to this and this leads into my point above where they don't do it in moderation and drink way too much. You've got to remember that you have the ability to say "No". Don't be afraid to tell people to "Piss Off" if they back you into a corner to have a drink when you don't want to.


Other than that, I'd have no problem if the drinking age was raised in my area. It'd keep a lot of those scum people off the streets and keep the place a little bit safer. Although in the entertainment district in my city (the main spot for all clubs/bars), there is a huge police presence. Any fight is usually stopped within minutes and the offenders are carted away and punished severely. But that still doesn't stop people from starting stuff like that.
 

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I think it should be lower to 18, because you can smoke (which is more dangerous then beer and cause more health risks), vote and go to war (hell you probably have a great chance dieing in a war then you do with beer) so while can't you drink, I mean it your own damn fault if you choice to driving dunk or drink too much....
 

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people need to stop bringing binge drinking into pop culture. all teens that i know love to feel like their older and thus love to drink... at 14...
drinking in moderation is one thing, but drinking to get drunk is just retarded. i learned this when i was 15 and i got drunk my first and last time. it affected me so bad that every time i smelled vodka from that point on it would make me sick.
 

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Leading you to feel isolated and anti-social if you don't drink.
I'll take feeling isolated and anti-social(Though, it wouldn't make much of a difference because I consider myself isolated and anti-social anyways) any day versus the alternative, which is a visit to the hospital and my parents being extremely pissed.
 

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The smoking argument is pretty much the most obvious reason why it should be lowered.

I say lower it to 18. Besides I can wait a year anyway haha.
 
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I find it funny that these College Presidents aren't encouraging the enforcement of law, instead of trying to change the law so they don't have to worry about their students breaking the law.

Right now many of these college towns have laws that allow 19 year olds into the bars, but they aren't supposed to drink. That's a laugh. Way back when I was a college student, I was over 21, and probably the only person in the bar that was, other than the staff. If these college presidents would push the towns to not allow under age students into bars and help the police enforce the laws, then the binge drinking would be reduced.

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I always wondered why I could do EVERYTHING at the age of 18 aside become president of the US but I couldn't buy a bottle of coconut rum to mix with coca-cola.
 

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I am not advocating the use of alcohol,but from a practical view,in my opinion,the age limit should be lowered to 18.Those who are under 21,but still want alcohol,can and are able to obtain it.If at 18,society deems you responcible enough to join the armed service and defend your country,choose your government representatives,and operate a motor vehicle on the public roadways,then you should be able to decide wether or not you wish to imbibe an alcoholic beverage without any legal restrictions.
 

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operate a motor vehicle on the public roadways,then you should be able to decide wether or not you wish to imbibe an alcoholic beverage without any legal restrictions.
Well you can get a drivers license at 14 years 9 months in michigan

But other than that valid points.
 
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I like the way it's here:
16 for beer and wine, so you can get a feel for how much you can drink, and 18 for spirits, which obviously make you drunk faster and more "effectively". Gives people the chance to experiment before they get to do dangerous stuff while drunk, like driving (driving age is 18).

Personally, I think 21 is way too old for drinking. Let people get completely wasted a few times in their lives and wake up with a raging headache and the remains of the previous day's dinner flowing around their midsection in a half-digested state. It's an experience everyone has to make on their own - like touching the hot stove. No education program or restriction will teach people their limits as well as getting completely f*cked up on booze. And the sooner they make that experience, the sooner they can learn how to properly handle alcohol (unless they're British - Brits have a gene for binge drinking!).

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Me, I live in a college town and the local police blotter always has underage students being arrested by the local cops for underage consumption both on the campus and downtown at the bars.

I see it all the time, and all it does is cause civil disobedience in my town. I see it in the streets, in the papers, and on the news about how some stupid 18 year old college kid decided to get so drunk and go about causing trouble downtown. Personally, I think they should keep it the way it is, and then just have more cops on the streets, and on the campus.

The university here where I live, has been marred by incidents because of kids being idiots and turkeys. I get sick and tired of it, every year when the kids come back finding empty beer cans, beer bottles all over the place.

I will admit I drink, but I am in my 30s, at age 32, and I will admit I did drink before I was 21, but I was 19 when I had my first beer.

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I say if your old enought to take a bullet for your country, you should be able to drink.
 
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