Link between adult baby and paedophilia?

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I only found out I'm interested in this fetish a few month ago, I'm just wondering whether there is a link between this and paedophilia. I'm certainly not suggesting that all adult babies are also paedophiles, only that maybe a like for adult baby makes paedophilia more likely? You see I've only ever known 2 people with this fetish one who had learning disabilities and the other who was also a paedophile. Can anyone provide links of studies that prove that it's unlikely?

I'd love to find a partner who is also into adult baby but I'm concerned as I'd hate to end up with a paedophile.

I mean no offence to anyone by asking this question
 

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Well... you identify as an AB, so it is obvious that you are.

Do you realize how ignorant your premise is? You throw around the term “pedophile” multiple times in connection with AB asking for it to be disproved rather than asking for proof or case studies where sex offenders were AB.

Despite your feeble attempts to pre-emptively apologize for offending people, your post here is one big, “FAIL”.
 

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Um, no, just no

It doesnt matter that some of us like Childish things, or act Childish

It doesnt make us Children, nor would it make anyone that is with us Pedophiles

Simply put Pedophiles are attached to Children, if its 2 Adults, there is no Pedophilia there

It just so happens that 1 of the 2 you know is a Pedophile; doesn't mean there is a connection there and there is plenty of research out there to prove ABDL as more of a kind of "Therapy" or "Coping Mechanism" with NO ties to Pedophilia

Your post basically implies people who are AB are Pedophiles simply because you know 1 that is; it's never a good look to know 2 people and then think you have the "Big Picture" of a whole group
 
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It's time to put this despicable slander to rest. There is no correlation between ABDL-hood and pedophilia. None. Zero.

Johannes Fuss et al., "Self-Reported Childhood Maltreatment and Erotic Target Identity Inversions Among Men with Paraphilic Infantilism," Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy

From the abstract: "Data from 1904 cis-gender men revealed a prevalence of pedophilic interests comparable with the general male population."

From p. 11:

In our sample, the 12-month incidence for sexual attraction or fantasies involving prepubescent
children (under the age of 13) was 5% and 0.9% for fantasies involving babies (age 0–1). In com-
parison, the largest and most accurate online study to examine self-reported pedophilic interest in
a community sample in the western world was recently published by Dombert et al. (2016). In an
online sample of 8718 German males, 5.5% reported any form of pedophilic interest (any report
of fantasy, child pornography consumption, behavior or having paid a child for sexual services)
and 4.1% indicated sexual fantasies involving children under the age of 13 in their lifetime. Thus,
the 12-month incidence for pedophilic interest in men with paraphilic infantilism seems to be
roughly comparable with the lifetime prevalence in the general male population. However, the
degree to which 12-month incidence and lifetime prevalence differ is not clear. Seto (2009) stated
that only some of the individuals acknowledging sexual fantasies involving prepubescent children
in surveys might meet the diagnostic criteria for a pedophilic disorder in terms of persistence and
intensity. Hence, the prevalence for pedophilic disorder is expected to be much lower in the pre-
sent sample as well as in Dombert et al. (2016).
Translation: the percentage of ABDL men who have some pedophilic interest is about the same as the percentage of all men who have some pedophilic interest. There's no correlation between ABDL-hood and pedophilia.

I mean no offence to anyone by asking this question
I appreciate that you didn't mean offense, but the question is offensive.
 
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I only found out I'm interested in this fetish a few month ago, I'm just wondering whether there is a link between this and paedophilia. I'm certainly not suggesting that all adult babies are also paedophiles, only that maybe a like for adult baby makes paedophilia more likely? You see I've only ever known 2 people with this fetish one who had learning disabilities and the other who was also a paedophile. Can anyone provide links of studies that prove that it's unlikely?

I'd love to find a partner who is also into adult baby but I'm concerned as I'd hate to end up with a paedophile.

I mean no offence to anyone by asking this question
Simple anwer theres NO link whatsover has not will not ever be one between AB / Little / ABDL and so on & paedophilia or any sexofenders. so kindly stop refering to this in the future as it risk being viewed as offensive for us AB`S /Littles etc...
 
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there is NO link whatsoever between being an AB and being a paedophile. Most of us are AB's in an attempt to regain something we feel we've lost or never had, DL's are slightly different. Yes both ab/dl's can have a sexual basis, but that is usually for self gratification, there are also a lot of us who are totally non-sexual in littler space. I suggest you look up paraphilic fetishes and see what it says.
 

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Pedophiles can exist in any group but that doesn't make for a correlation. If you learned that a plumber was a pedophile, would you wonder if there was a correlation? Pedophiles are attracted to children. ABs either want to be the child (baby) or be treated like one. If you're not sexually attracted to children, there's no pedophilia, full stop.
 

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I only found out I'm interested in this fetish a few month ago, I'm just wondering whether there is a link between this and paedophilia. I'm certainly not suggesting that all adult babies are also paedophiles, only that maybe a like for adult baby makes paedophilia more likely? You see I've only ever known 2 people with this fetish one who had learning disabilities and the other who was also a paedophile. Can anyone provide links of studies that prove that it's unlikely?

I'd love to find a partner who is also into adult baby but I'm concerned as I'd hate to end up with a paedophile.

I mean no offence to anyone by asking this question
Now I am curious about one of them being a pedophile.

Pedophilia is more common than you think. But we have silenced them and made them be in their toybox but yet it's normalized in some other cultures so hence why adults can marry kids young as age ten.

Pedophilia means sexual attraction to kids, not child molester or predator. You can be a pedophile and still live a normal life and have a normal relationship with another adult. There is also treatment for pedophilia too like pills to take to lower their sex drive, depo shots. But no this disease should never be normalized nor accepted.

One thing I have noticed with pedophilia is they tend to be child like and have immature emotions so it doesn't surprise me that their attraction is also immature too. That doesn't mean that every immature adult is a pedophile nor does that mean that every child like adult is one or every autistic person or anyone with a disability that makes them immature and child like.

But my question is what is it called when an adult is emotionally attracted to kids but not sexually because they are asexual? Is there a word for that? People believe this is also just as harmful as being sexually attracted to them. But at least they won't get sexual urges right? Just imagine liking kids romantically but you can't stand porn so therefore you can't stand child porn because it's sick. You also don't like sex either and have no desire to have it. I am still curious how this is still harmful to a minor if there is no sexual attraction?
 

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No I do not find this question offensive. I appreciate you asking though instead of accusing us of being pedophiles. I have asked if there was a link between AB and autism and no one took offense to that but maybe because autism isn't considered a bad thing and doesn't have that negative stigma to it like pedophilia does.

Pedophilia is a very difficult topic to discuss without letting emotions get in the way. Very difficult to have a rational discussion about it due to emotion.
 

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Even in documented cases of Paraphilic Infantilism, there has never been a case reporting both Pedophilia along side Infantilism. One suggestion is that Aby's tend to identify and sympethise with children rather than being a target of sexual behavior. Furthermore, as of DSM-5, paraphilia like AB/DL relate to sexual behavior including non-living objects like diapers and binkies.

I do agree with the anger and frustration that shows when these discussions arise. Keep in mind that new members searching for answers might ask these questions. It is our role to provide a better understanding for them and point them to professional help when needed.
 

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Now I am curious about one of them being a pedophile.

Pedophilia is more common than you think. But we have silenced them and made them be in their toybox but yet it's normalized in some other cultures so hence why adults can marry kids young as age ten.

Pedophilia means sexual attraction to kids, not child molester or predator. You can be a pedophile and still live a normal life and have a normal relationship with another adult. There is also treatment for pedophilia too like pills to take to lower their sex drive, depo shots. But no this disease should never be normalized nor accepted.

One thing I have noticed with pedophilia is they tend to be child like and have immature emotions so it doesn't surprise me that their attraction is also immature too. That doesn't mean that every immature adult is a pedophile nor does that mean that every child like adult is one or every autistic person or anyone with a disability that makes them immature and child like.

But my question is what is it called when an adult is emotionally attracted to kids but not sexually because they are asexual? Is there a word for that? People believe this is also just as harmful as being sexually attracted to them. But at least they won't get sexual urges right? Just imagine liking kids romantically but you can't stand porn so therefore you can't stand child porn because it's sick. You also don't like sex either and have no desire to have it. I am still curious how this is still harmful to a minor if there is no sexual attraction?
The problem may arise that any interaction with a child like this, whether it is purely romantic or otherwise, can impact the psychologic, emotional, and behavioral growth of the child. If a case like this presents, to the adult it might seem black and white but the law will always be in favor of the well being of the child rather than the adult. Some might see it as a grey area but for protection of both, I would suggest not supporting this type of behavior. Also, as we all know, some will take a negative view of this type of behavior and take action.
 
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Pedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubescent children
Not because of the way the act.
It's a physical thing and the AB community, when it is a fetish, is between two consenting adults.
 

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Obviously I'm not suggesting that I just because I know 1 person who is a paedophile I have the bigger picture. The whole point is that I don't have the bigger picture, that's why I'm asking for studies!

I spoke about these two sexual behaviours separately asking whether there is a link. So obviously I don't see adult baby as paedophilia!

Um, no, just no

It doesnt matter that some of us like Childish things, or act Childish

It doesnt make us Children, nor would it make anyone that is with us Pedophiles

Simply put Pedophiles are attached to Children, if its 2 Adults, there is no Pedophilia there

It just so happens that 1 of the 2 you know is a Pedophile; doesn't mean there is a connection there and there is plenty of research out there to prove ABDL as more of a kind of "Therapy" or "Coping Mechanism" with NO ties to Pedophilia

Your post basically implies people who are AB are Pedophiles simply because you know 1 that is; it's never a good look to know 2 people and then think you have the "Big Picture" of a whole group
Um, no, just no

It doesnt matter that some of us like Childish things, or act Childish

It doesnt make us Children, nor would it make anyone that is with us Pedophiles

Simply put Pedophiles are attached to Children, if its 2 Adults, there is no Pedophilia there

It just so happens that 1 of the 2 you know is a Pedophile; doesn't mean there is a connection there and there is plenty of research out there to prove ABDL as more of a kind of "Therapy" or "Coping Mechanism" with NO ties to Pedophilia

Your post basically implies people who are AB are Pedophiles simply because you know 1 that is; it's never a good look to know 2 people and then think you have the "Big Picture" of a whole group
 

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Obviously I'm not suggesting that I just because I know 1 person who is a paedophile I have the bigger picture. The whole point is that I don't have the bigger picture, that's why I'm asking for studies!

I spoke about these two sexual behaviours separately asking whether there is a link. So obviously I don't see adult baby as paedophilia!
Well ABDL isn't even a sexual thing all the time or for some people at ANY TIME, even when it is there is no connection to Pedophilia because it's still 2 consenting Adults, thus no connection to Pedophilia

A Pedophile isnt gonna jump to an AB as a substitution for their attraction to Children; it just doesnt work that way

We like Diapers, and items that are associated with young Children, we dont have an attraction to Children themselves

A Pedophile has an attraction to Children, not Diapers, and items associated with Young Children

The 2 are completely separate and knowing 1 person that is ABDL and a Pedophile doesnt mean there is a connection

It's like if I knew 2 Black Guys, and 1 likes Watermelon, Fried Chicken, Kool Aid, and Malt liquor; next thing you know I ask "hey is there a connection there" doesnt make it not Racist; or in your case offensive to ask such a question
 
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Please don’t pervert something that heals so many people. I truly doubt a pedophile would be in this community because we are adults. They would probably be seeking out ways to be with actual children. The other post you made makes me cringe.
 

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If pedophilia was closely linked to being AB/DL, most of us would be writing our posts from jail. So obviously, no.
 

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There is NO link. An AB is an adult that wants to be a child. A pedo is an adult that wants to have inappropriate relations with a child. So, in a way, they are polar opposites: an AB has absolute reason to hate a person who would harm what they want to be.
 

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DITTO, DITTO, AND DITTO...

There simply is NO link to this and for all of the reasons previously stated.


One thing that you will find almost unanimously among the ABDL community is not only the understanding that there is no link, but rather there is adamant and even extreme feelings against this. Yes, ABDLs want to be as babies and wear diapers, but when it comes to anything actually involving real children, there just isn't any connection.

Before I became a father, I was worried about my desires about wearing diapers and what would this be like when I actually had my own children. Would this make me think more about diapers and wanting to be more babylike myself?

What I found is that there simply is no connection. If anything, having children and having to take care of actual diaper duties had an opposite effect. In fact, never in the entire time of raising three children did the fact of having to change diapers and care for my children cause me to even think about my diaper interests. During the years when they were in diapers, I found that I actually had much less interest in anything ABDL!

Perhaps this is because when you are a parent and caring for a baby, the whole diapering aspect is so much of a chore and not something pleasant. I was grateful when each of my children were potty trained, for so many reasons. The cost, the inconvenience, and yes, the grossness of it.

But even more so, I believe that as a parent, caring for your child and the love you feel for them causes you to be a much less selfish person. Instead of thinking about yourself, you are thinking about them. You are engrossed with this miracle bundle of life that you have been blessed with and in so doing, your own desires of things such as being ABDL become less important and are put on the back-burner for a while.

I hope that this might help alleviate some of your concerns.

Most ABDLs go through a binge and purge cycle of accepting and then hating their ABDL interests and even themselves for having the interest. It is natural to question if something is wrong with you for having the feeling of wanting to wear a diaper. But the truth in answering your question is that being ABDL is not related to paedophilia in any way, shape, or form. Period! End of story! Full Stop!

... Side note to the OP: I am not meaning to sound like I am doubting your post, but if you are just now figuring out you have an interest in this, that is relatively uncommon. It does happen, but it is more common for people to have had some sort of these feelings most of their lives. What triggered this for you?

And if you are just now finding out these interests you have, how is it that you know two individuals who also are ABDL? Again, it isn't common for most to meet someone who is ABDL in general society. These things are generally kept very private. So actually knowing two people with this interest is indeed uncommon --unless you met them through websites or other such places. And, if so, not all websites are created equal. There are a number of websites that are pretty shady and it wouldn't surprise me to find pedo scum visiting there.

I have been around quite a while, and am in a lot of social circles. But in almost a half century, I have only actually met one other person in real life outside of the internet that was ABDL. This happened by way of accident and the other person didn't even know I knew of their interests. I discovered his diapers and ABDL themed items while taking care of his dog for a week. Although I was tempted, I did not approach him about it.
 
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The problem may arise that any interaction with a child like this, whether it is purely romantic or otherwise, can impact the psychologic, emotional, and behavioral growth of the child. If a case like this presents, to the adult it might seem black and white but the law will always be in favor of the well being of the child rather than the adult. Some might see it as a grey area but for protection of both, I would suggest not supporting this type of behavior. Also, as we all know, some will take a negative view of this type of behavior and take action.
No way am I advocating for that adults should have relationship with kids. It's very easy to misconstrue what people say in a topic like this which is why it makes this a difficult discussion.

People think pedophilia=wants to dingle kids because of their sexual attraction to them so that was why I asked what about the ones who are not attracted but only have emotional attraction. Even if the asexual ones may not want a relationship with them because that is so wrong and inappropriate, people say that is still harmful for them to be near them. I know a guy online I used to speak with and he had autism but he always hung out with kids and preferred them. But after learning about pedophilia, I started to wonder if he was one of these guys but I know he would never hurt a child because he has clearly said he doesn't want to have a relationship with them but wants to find another adult that is a lot like a child because of how he can relate to them and where his emotional level is at and his social skills. Plus he hates child abuse. But yet the way he talks about kids and how he strongly prefers them so he is always around them makes me wonder. One of my online friends told me this is harmful what he is doing even though he isn't touching them wrong or anything nor is he having a relationship with them. He is no way sexual either because he is also asexual. But he has also been called a pedophile by one person in a chat room and I think in his mind a pedophile is someone who has sex with kids so that was why that comment upset him so much and why he dwelled on it for years and years because he would never hurt a child. Plus because of the negative stigma to the word which is why we would never take kindly to someone who compares ABDLism to pedophilia or who calls us pedophiles for being a ABDL. But I would think it would be an overreaction if someone innocently asked if ABDL had anything to do with pedophilia and asking what the difference is and how can it not be pedophilia and people get all bent out of shape about it and attack the person for asking. It's not like they said we were a pedophile and I think asking is a good step because it shows open mindness and their willing to learn and understand it.
 
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