EDM Music: Hardcore Knowledge

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ok kids, sit down and take notes. i'm the bus driver and i'm taking you kids to school!

ok, the reason why i did this was a. because i love this genre of music and b, because i've been trying to think of a way to explain it's nuances to the masses while still being entertaining and maybe expose a few new people to this type of music.
ok, hardcore music was developed in the mid to late 80's spawning from acid and industrial music. you might know it in it's modern day forms as rave, "techno", happycore (or happy hardcore), or gabber. they're different subgenres but they're all related.
the core (hehe) of hardcore music lies around it's distorted 909 kick drum. there is no substitute. this mixed with funky drum loops (oldskool), punk music (digitalcore), or metal riffs (metalcore; go figure) makes for a pretty versatile genre.
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
here's some good examples...

oldskool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_fXDfZR-4U

digitalcore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR_kjdr7e0Y

rave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BALrsIKMr3c

happy hardcore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSmoYR_wSkw

gabber:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA1GAVSKo_k

info absorbed from:
http://www.ishkur.com
http://www.di.fm
http://www.happynation.co.uk
http://www.happyhardcore.com
 
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I love techno music mostly only if its got a upeat beat though and i been a fan of happy hardcore for quite some time.+1 for an informative post with good music.

Hmm i think you could find a better song for the rave one from the ones that i have been to they uaslly have a really fast pounding beat but that could be more a local thing.
 
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Damn... I've been involved in the rave scene for close to 2 and a half years now. Where I am in Australia, there a hardcore/gabber event going on pretty much every weekend. It's not the music I usually listen to, but I'm so used to it. I know, and have met a few of the local DJs, and they're all pretty good people... except this one guy, he plays gabber, but not the usual gabber. It's like this ****ed up sort of gabber.

But anyway, as you could imagine I've been to quite a few events already and heard a whole range of music. Some of the best electronic music comes from a style called "FiNRG" (Finnish NRG). Basically, it's hardcore, but much more melodic, so it's not the whole pounding pneumatic drill in the skull feeling you can get sometimes.

Alek Szahala is a great example of FiNRG. Check out his "Mayhem" mixes, I was at those events. ;) Also good FiNRG artists are "Rx" and "Carbon Based" if you want to check it out.

A similar genre to FiNRG is "Freeform" - a little bit less melodic, but the variation is definitely there.

I'd also like to point out that Australia has a thriving hardcore community, and as a result, there are are lot of local DJs who have produced music in what is a called "Aussie Hardcore" scene. Seriously, a lot of this stuff is a better than what some of the internationals bring over with them.

Some good DJs from around here are:
Seventy-7
Kuruption
S3rl


Oh, and if you're all wondering what I do listen to, personally:

Autechre - Gantz Graf

Don't ask. :thumbsup:
 

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Man. I've considered going to a rave, but when I hear the music they play there, I'm like, come on! Are you seriously playing that? Where's the good electronic/techno? So much of the stuff that I hear seems to be soulless head-banging crap that you can listen to once and never want to hear it again. So many programs are making it easy to make this kind of music too! Maybe it just takes a finely-tuned ear to appreciate the niceties of this brand of music. I always feel that there's a big empty space in so many techno songs that just longs to be filled with something original. I like thick, rich music, and yes, there is that kind of techno!

Hybrid

According to this article, Hybrid is "a progressive breaks act, although they overlap considerably with progressive house and trance". They're simply brilliant! For their first album, Wide Angle, they hired the Russian Federal Orchestra for the string sections of their album. I don't know about you guys but I think that's totally brilliant. That instantly roped me into them. Classical? Awesome. Techno? Needs something. Maybe it's classical! Bam, right there. Excellent music. Unfortunately the album had trouble with the original shipment so it wasn't as well-received as it should have been. However since then they'd added another disc to the album and called the set Wider Angle.

I recently... acquired an album of Hybrid's off of a good friend's suggestion named I Choose Noise.



I didn't know what to think of it at first. This is the first album I listened to by them. I've had it on constant rotation this past week. I can't get enough of it!

Infected Mushroom

My friend gave me an album of theirs called Vicious Delicious. The album art's really weird, as are the lyrics... but man oh man, can they make some catchy music! The longest track on the album, Heavyweight, is an instrumental 8:41 of pure genius. It's constantly moving and continues to maintain a full-bodied sound.

The Prodigy

Another album given to me by my friend. Man, I get all my electronic music from friends, don't I? The album from The Prodigy he gave me is Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. It's got quite a few good tracks, but in some it fails to meet my (apparently high) standards because the beat repeats too much, or the lyrics are unimaginitive. One of the tracks keeps on rolling, while another repeats "Blah blah blah Girls blah".

(seriously)

Linkin Park

Kill me? Lulz ok!

They're not really techno at all, but I'd like to ask those of you who don't like them but haven't heard all of their music to check out Session. It's simply awesome. "F**king rock" as reviewed by our very own Avery!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=baWYlzK6zpU


That's all I have to say about the guys you maybe haven't heard before. Daft Punk, Basshunter, etc. are great, and I'm likely leaving out other mainstream guys.
 
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My friend gave me an album of theirs called Vicious Delicious. The album art's really weird, as are the lyrics... but man oh man, can they make some catchy music! The longest track on the album, Heavyweight, is an instrumental 8:41 of pure genius. It's constantly moving and continues to maintain a full-bodied sound.
I've seen them live, and they just played here in my town only last weekend. I would have gone to see them, but their live shows are really nothing like their albums. Going to one of their shows feels like going to a high-energy rock act.


Also, guys, can we please not confuse "Techno" with "Electronic Music". They are not interchangeable terms. Techno is a sub-genre of electronic music, with it's own sound and style, and really shouldn't be used as a generalised term to describe electronic music. >_>
 

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Actually,

Wiki on Electronic Music said:
Contemporary electronic music expresses both art music forms including electronic art music, experimental music, musique concrète, and others; and popular music forms including multiple styles of dance music such as techno, house, trance, electro, breakbeat, drum and bass, synth pop, etc.
Wiki on Techno said:
Techno is a form of electronic dance music originally developed in Detroit, Michigan, US during the mid to late 1980s under heavy influence of American funk and European avantgarde electronic music and synthpop. Many styles of techno now exist, but Detroit techno, a genre in its own right, is seen as the foundation upon which many other subgenres have been built.[1]

The initial take on techno arose from the melding of various African American styles such as Chicago house, funk, electro, and electric jazz with Eurocentric synthesizer-based music.
They're not interchangable but they're not all that different. Hence why I said electronic/techno.
 

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Also, guys, can we please not confuse "Techno" with "Electronic Music". They are not interchangeable terms. Techno is a sub-genre of electronic music, with it's own sound and style, and really shouldn't be used as a generalised term to describe electronic music. >_>
from what i've found out after years of screaming at my screen they can't hear you :(. thanks for the autchere! i haven't heard any good glitchcore stuff before.
hehe, this is the song i hear when i come on to the boards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGNpiJP_dg

and some more songs i love!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Z0gkn6byU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-PaUnTFCvo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dNoQhvTSek
 
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But techno has it's own sound to it. Dirty, almost abrasive beats and melodies.

As far as I'm concerned, "electronic music" is the broadest term given to music that isn't created via classical instruments (ie. non-electrical intruments).

Originally Posted by Wiki on Techno
Techno is a form of electronic dance music


Techno - just like house, hardcore, glitch, ambient, chill out, trance, etc... - is just another sub-genre of electronic music.
 

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But techno has it's own sound to it. Dirty, almost abrasive beats and melodies.

As far as I'm concerned, "electronic music" is the broadest term given to music that isn't created via classical instruments (ie. non-electrical intruments).

Originally Posted by Wiki on Techno
Techno is a form of electronic dance music


Techno - just like house, hardcore, glitch, ambient, chill out, trance, etc... - is just another sub-genre of electronic music.
Alright, sure. Techno is a kind of electronic music. I'll go with that. This thread *is* about electronic music though :p
 

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What I am more instrested in, is How to make and understand the way like Ferry Corsten makes trance.

But thanks for all the info. I will read more into it.
 

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I can't stand happy hardcore. It's music to have your face caved in to!

However i like proper hX AILD, Atreyu, Casino Brawl etc...

I also like some Nu-Rave, Hadouken! Klaxons etc...

I love Pendulum!
 

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for any of you who think techno is good...You are terribly mistaken.

It is in fact the most insaly awesome music ever. Its very name cam bring sensations of "WTF IS THAT SONG! IMA DANCE TO IT!"...

I listen to internet radio streams all day and night...

T4E.dj
neradio.fm (I think)
Just look up anything like 'techno' or 'rave' on shoutcast.com...

~Gwizzy~
 
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Oh ****, Monkey! That brings back some great memories!

I went to one of Daft Punk's shows. It was THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVER WITNESSED. Coming from someone who's loved DP since Around The World came out... I think I got to the show about 4 hours early just to get a good spot. Centre, not too far back, not too far forward. It was perfect. ^_^

Here's a picture I managed to get. Everyone loves a picture!



But damn... Daft Punk. I'm speechless when it comes to their stuff. I absolutely love it. :D
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGECJP3phyY

Only electronic group I listen to on a daily basis. Alive 2007 is a fantastic album, then again I am biased since it's the only 'electro' album I own & listen to repeatedly.
Daft Punk =.... there are no words for them. maybe 'genius'... still doesn't completely suffice though.

I've been through my hardcore and rave phases of Charlie Lownoise, Anabolic Frolic, 2BOT4F.... and Bonkers (oh dear lord...) ¬_¬

What I'd like to see is the oldskool and classic trance and euro-house and all that crap pull through; Kernkraft 400, Faithless, Darude, Sash, Gigi D'Agostino... it won't happen... but noone can say it's not legendary music =P

And dare I say it-... in fact I won't. i'll youtube it instead;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3_dOopHeg0A

I still hear the techno and trance remixes of this when I'm out.
Cheesy as ****... but does my face look bovver'd? --> :biggrin:
 
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Oh I love Infected Mushroom, but... they arent hardcore, they are psycadelic trance!

I think for those of you that dont understand why people just likes alot of beats is probably because those who are at raves use Ecstasy, wich makes you appreciate music more and in different ways, same thing for some other drugs like shrooms. I usually otherwise really dont like Infected at all exept for some songs.
 
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