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I am having a real problem with the last case of dry 24/7s I got from xp medical. The tapes at the top do not stick. Am I making the overly snug or something?
 

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It's a failing on an otherwise really good diaper. You can minimize it by being very deliberate about the taping and running your fingers over the tapes to secure but they can still come loose and some find it easier just to apply some packing or duct tape off the bat in anticipation of failure.
 

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Oh, I noticed the back of the diaper seems to be the thickest part. Is all of that absorbant and will the diaper wick in that direction?
 

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Oh, I noticed the back of the diaper seems to be the thickest part. Is all of that absorbant and will the diaper wick in that direction?

In my experience, wetness migrates over time with all diapers but your position is also relevant. Given that these are made to be worn for an extended period, it seems to work out alright but perhaps I'd see some differences if I didn't spend any part of that wearing period in recline.
 

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I have complained on several threads and to the company (three times) about Dry 27/7 tapes.
 

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I've commented on this before as it comes up frequently so this may sound a bit recycled but then again so is the question.

These diapers have sufficient waist elastic, you need to diall down on how tight you do the tape. The elastic puts continuous pressure on the tapes, and will pop them eventually if you put them on too tight. Just do the top up looser. Remember, the top tapes are there to keep your diaper from sliding down your hips and landing on the floor, NOT to seal up against leaks. If you have wetness reach the back of your diaper, it's past capacity and you're going to leak anyway. Any diaper that has front and/or rear elastic is going to have a bigger problem with tape creep/pop. (bambino and fabine can be really bad with that, due to having both front AND rear elastic)

I can relate to those that don't like a "sloppy fit". I agree, I think a snug diaper has a much better feel to it, but it's hard on the tapes. So either loosen up, or expect to need to reinforce with tape of some sort.
 

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I've commented on this before as it comes up frequently so this may sound a bit recycled but then again so is the question.

These diapers have sufficient waist elastic, you need to diall down on how tight you do the tape. The elastic puts continuous pressure on the tapes, and will pop them eventually if you put them on too tight. Just do the top up looser. Remember, the top tapes are there to keep your diaper from sliding down your hips and landing on the floor, NOT to seal up against leaks. If you have wetness reach the back of your diaper, it's past capacity and you're going to leak anyway. Any diaper that has front and/or rear elastic is going to have a bigger problem with tape creep/pop. (bambino and fabine can be really bad with that, due to having both front AND rear elastic)

I can relate to those that don't like a "sloppy fit". I agree, I think a snug diaper has a much better feel to it, but it's hard on the tapes. So either loosen up, or expect to need to reinforce with tape of some sort.

The problem is a loose fit will cause the diaper to sag and leave 1" gaps between the leg gatherings and your legs. If you wet under those circumstances, you will leak no question.
 

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The problem is a loose fit will cause the diaper to sag and leave 1" gaps between the leg gatherings and your legs. If you wet under those circumstances, you will leak no question.
That's a problem with how you're taping it then. The lower tapes are responsible for making the seal along your legs, the upper ones are just sort of there. In my experience, a properly taped diaper will actually sag down about an inch in the middle while the leg openings stay up where I initially taped them. If you think about it, that sagging actually adds an extra barrier to leaking (while standing anyway) because liquid would have to pool up quite a bit to make it over the openings. I'm extremely thin though, so ymmv if your body shape is different. Let me know and I can go into some more detail about how I do it.

As far as making the tapes stick:
1) don't tape the diaper in an environment with lots of particulates in the air (e.g. in the bathroom after a hot shower, or right after shaking powder everywhere). The tape often generates quite a bit of static charge when you initially peel it off and that will suck dust in like a magnet.
2) don't touch the sticky part of the tape (a bit of a no-brainer)
3) make sure there's nothing on the front of the diaper where you're taping (e.g. moisture from showering, powder residue, finger oil, etc.)
4) Once the tape is taped, hold some pressure on it for a few seconds, then rapidly rub your finger over it to warm it a little, then hold pressure for a few more seconds.

Other than that, all I can recommend is not taping it so tight.
 

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I am having a real problem with the last case of dry 24/7s I got from xp medical. The tapes at the top do not stick. Am I making the overly snug or something?
Dry 24/7 has that problem. They actually tried out a tape but they did not end up going with it cause the company they got them from went out of business. The tapes were by far the best diaper tape I have ever tried. I got a sample of them. Now they are redoing the elastic waist band.

But anyway there is a great way to get the tapes to stick perfectly. You just take about a 6 inch piece of duck tape and you put in down on the diaper on each side where the tapes go. Or you can put it all the way across, either way. Then put down the tape on top of it. I find the bottom does not need it. but if you are having trouble with those ones then by all means do the same on the bottom.
 

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That's a problem with how you're taping it then. The lower tapes are responsible for making the seal along your legs, the upper ones are just sort of there. In my experience, a properly taped diaper will actually sag down about an inch in the middle while the leg openings stay up where I initially taped them. If you think about it, that sagging actually adds an extra barrier to leaking (while standing anyway) because liquid would have to pool up quite a bit to make it over the openings. I'm extremely thin though, so ymmv if your body shape is different. Let me know and I can go into some more detail about how I do it.

As far as making the tapes stick:
1) don't tape the diaper in an environment with lots of particulates in the air (e.g. in the bathroom after a hot shower, or right after shaking powder everywhere). The tape often generates quite a bit of static charge when you initially peel it off and that will suck dust in like a magnet.
2) don't touch the sticky part of the tape (a bit of a no-brainer)
3) make sure there's nothing on the front of the diaper where you're taping (e.g. moisture from showering, powder residue, finger oil, etc.)
4) Once the tape is taped, hold some pressure on it for a few seconds, then rapidly rub your finger over it to warm it a little, then hold pressure for a few more seconds.

Other than that, all I can recommend is not taping it so tight.

As I have stated previously, I had problems with the taped popping in about the first half of the bag, but not the last half (so far). I have done nothing differently (same tightness). I am not the only one who has found inconsistencies in tape adherence. See http://www.adisc.org/forum/showthread.php/92447-The-New-ConfiDry-24-7 for other opinions.
 

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In my experience, wetness migrates over time with all diapers but your position is also relevant. Given that these are made to be worn for an extended period, it seems to work out alright but perhaps I'd see some differences if I didn't spend any part of that wearing period in recline.

I am doing the tapes a little looser on top and a little looser on the bottom. I am getting about the same amount of wear time as an abena m4, and I know these are supposed to be much more absorbant. When they leak, the back isn't wet at all, and it seems like most of the padding is in the back (or it is a different type).

I never really lay down, but I do recline a bit.

Not sure if these are for me.
 

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That's a problem with how you're taping it then. The lower tapes are responsible for making the seal along your legs, the upper ones are just sort of there. In my experience, a properly taped diaper will actually sag down about an inch in the middle while the leg openings stay up where I initially taped them.

very much THAT, yes
 

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I keep a roll of cute printed duct tape handy for my Dry 24/7s.

I really don't think diaper pins are going to do any good, because the thin backing material of a plastic diaper is not designed to handle the loads that way. The holes you poke in the plastic shell are likely to quickly stretch beyond the point where the steel pin isn't actually creating tension anymore. If it's not creating tension, it's not really doing anything to support the load.
 

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I really don't think diaper pins are going to do any good, because the thin backing material of a plastic diaper is not designed to handle the loads that way. The holes you poke in the plastic shell are likely to quickly stretch beyond the point where the steel pin isn't actually creating tension anymore. If it's not creating tension, it's not really doing anything to support the load.

I suspect it's not supporting a load so much as keeping the tape pressed against the plastic so that it remains adhered.
 
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