havelockellis
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I've been wondering how our interests manifest in populations that don't sue diapers or use them very little? Take China for example, where up until recently split crotch pants 开裆裤 (kāidāngkù) were used predominantly instead of diapers. In many place they still are. In conjunction caregivers would use Elimination Communication (EC), closely monitoring their young ones for signs of needing to go or regularly reminding them, then holding them in a squat position and giving them a verbal cue so they will go. As they learn to walk and become toddlers they still wear split crotch pants so they can simply squat and go whenever and where ever they need instead of catching it in a diaper.
I assume DL largely is absent in this population? Is it replaced by something else?
I have not researched ABDL in Chinese language, if it exists, but I did once have a girlfriend who grew up in China without diapers. She was very attractive (did some modeling) but liked to act super cute, collect stuffed animals etc.. Interestingly it seems some AB-ish behaviors are accepted in Asian cultures. I shared my interest with her. The feelings of caregiver closeness, being taken care of and care-free resonated with her despite not having memories of diapering. Her memories were of being held closely in the squat position, whistled in the ear and having her needs were taken care of.
We were both quite fit at the time so I offered to give her that experience again. We tried it first one day while lounging around naked at a private pool villa at a fancy resort. I noticed her cross her legs and hold her crotch, so I asked her if she had to pee, she nodded, I picked her up behind her knees, and held her in a squat position over the gravel just off the deck. I tried my best to whistle gently and she produced a nice arc of pee into the gravel resulting in quite a puddle. When it came to an end, I asked if she was done with her pipi, stood her back up, held her close and patted her. She said it was a really nice feeling, intimate and even sexy. For me it was novel and I also enjoyed it.
I regret that I never dove deeper into the psychology of it with her but we did continue to do it sometimes. Occasionally, she would say pipi to me in Chinese and I would find a place to hold her in a squat. When she was clothed I would help her pull down her panties etc.. Sometimes we even did it in semi-public places like parking lots between cars, garages, parks etc.. This apparently matched up with her memories of being free and accommodated in these kinds of places in China.
She even pooped this way in nature. The first time she did this it was a bit of a surprise. We were walking in nature, she had said pipi and I was holding her just off the trail and she was doing her usual stream when she said something in Chinese which I did not recognize. Slightly breaking out of character but still super cute she told me "poo poo" in english. After her pee trickled to an end I could feel her bearing down just a bit and hear a bit of a motion, followed by a thud, a few more and a bit more pee. She had produced a nice long solid poop and a few smaller ones right next to the trail and her pee puddle. We had backpack with tissues, so I stood her up and wipped her well. She said it felt good to be held and experience emptying herself completely and naturally. She said in China they are very free, casual and usually just leave the poop wherever it lands. They do not have the custom of digging holes etc. like hikers do in the US. So we did like the Chinese and left her work there.
Does anyone else have any experience with China or other non-diapering cultures?
I assume DL largely is absent in this population? Is it replaced by something else?
I have not researched ABDL in Chinese language, if it exists, but I did once have a girlfriend who grew up in China without diapers. She was very attractive (did some modeling) but liked to act super cute, collect stuffed animals etc.. Interestingly it seems some AB-ish behaviors are accepted in Asian cultures. I shared my interest with her. The feelings of caregiver closeness, being taken care of and care-free resonated with her despite not having memories of diapering. Her memories were of being held closely in the squat position, whistled in the ear and having her needs were taken care of.
We were both quite fit at the time so I offered to give her that experience again. We tried it first one day while lounging around naked at a private pool villa at a fancy resort. I noticed her cross her legs and hold her crotch, so I asked her if she had to pee, she nodded, I picked her up behind her knees, and held her in a squat position over the gravel just off the deck. I tried my best to whistle gently and she produced a nice arc of pee into the gravel resulting in quite a puddle. When it came to an end, I asked if she was done with her pipi, stood her back up, held her close and patted her. She said it was a really nice feeling, intimate and even sexy. For me it was novel and I also enjoyed it.
I regret that I never dove deeper into the psychology of it with her but we did continue to do it sometimes. Occasionally, she would say pipi to me in Chinese and I would find a place to hold her in a squat. When she was clothed I would help her pull down her panties etc.. Sometimes we even did it in semi-public places like parking lots between cars, garages, parks etc.. This apparently matched up with her memories of being free and accommodated in these kinds of places in China.
She even pooped this way in nature. The first time she did this it was a bit of a surprise. We were walking in nature, she had said pipi and I was holding her just off the trail and she was doing her usual stream when she said something in Chinese which I did not recognize. Slightly breaking out of character but still super cute she told me "poo poo" in english. After her pee trickled to an end I could feel her bearing down just a bit and hear a bit of a motion, followed by a thud, a few more and a bit more pee. She had produced a nice long solid poop and a few smaller ones right next to the trail and her pee puddle. We had backpack with tissues, so I stood her up and wipped her well. She said it felt good to be held and experience emptying herself completely and naturally. She said in China they are very free, casual and usually just leave the poop wherever it lands. They do not have the custom of digging holes etc. like hikers do in the US. So we did like the Chinese and left her work there.
Does anyone else have any experience with China or other non-diapering cultures?
