Constant cloth diaper leaks - advice please!

Canadianfalls

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I'm cloth diapering with InControl/Rearz pocket diapers. What in the world can I insert in these to get good absorbency for long periods of sitting? Having discreet cloth diapers for work time would be nice, but I keep getting up to soaked pants and a soaked chair with a microfiber insert, bamboo insert and flat diaper all as stuffing at the same time.

What can I put in that will prevent seated leaks?? I'm so disappointed with how little these contain usage and am seriously considering going back to disposables full time.

Insight on my needs: I flood. Drink a lot, and am male.

Please, any help is appreciated. I'm Canadian in Toronto - on a budget, so I can't afford crazy import fees from the USA for orders.
 
I'm cloth diapering with InControl/Rearz pocket diapers. What in the world can I insert in these to get good absorbency for long periods of sitting? Having discreet cloth diapers for work time would be nice, but I keep getting up to soaked pants and a soaked chair with a microfiber insert, bamboo insert and flat diaper all as stuffing at the same time.

What can I put in that will prevent seated leaks?? I'm so disappointed with how little these contain usage and am seriously considering going back to disposables full time.

Insight on my needs: I flood. Drink a lot, and am male.

Please, any help is appreciated. I'm Canadian in Toronto - on a budget, so I can't afford crazy import fees from the USA for orders.
wear plastic pants
 
Water loves finding breathable fabric and making a path to it, so anything with a soft fabric cover will be kind of leaky, even if there's a waterproof layer below.

Get yourself a plastic pant, something without any breathable fabric.

Rearz sells some plastic pants under diaper covers, but I have no idea how good they are.
My favorite are from Babykins, which is also a Canadian company.
"KINS Nylon Taffeta Pull-On Waterproof Pants 10300NT" - very soft, comfortable and leak proof.
 
Question? Are these cloth diapers new and haven’t been washed at least 3-4 times? Almost all new cloth diapers come sprayed with a substance called “sizing”. It’s used on many cloth products to prevent staining during the production, wholesale, and retail process. Beside washing, adding 1-1/2 to 2 cups of white vinegar to the wash cycle will help to remove the sizing as well as to fluff the cotton fibers to make them more absorbent. A few of the retailers for cloth diapers have this information in their care instructions for their diapers, but it sometimes goes unnoticed. But as Andrewgdfw said plastic pants are a necessary item for isolating wet cloth diapers from any dry material that they may come into contact with. They’re not meant to contain free liquid, at least not for any extended period of time, so add additional absorbent material (soakers, doublers, or added diapers) if the liquid isn’t quickly absorbed. I use a folded terry bath towel as a soaker in mine as it absorb a lot of liquid quickly which is helpful to prevent leaks as I’m a side sleeper.
 
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In my experience pocket diapers can only hold one or two wettings before needing to be changed
 
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Question? Are these cloth diapers new and haven’t been washed at least 3-4 times? Almost all new cloth diapers come sprayed with a substance called “sizing”. It’s used on many cloth products to prevent staining during the production, wholesale, and retail process. Beside washing, adding 1-1/2 to 2 cups of white vinegar to the wash cycle will help to remove the sizing as well as to fluff the cotton fibers to make them more absorbent. A few of the retailers for cloth diapers have this information in their care instructions for their diapers, but it sometimes goes unnoticed. But as Andrewgdfw said plastic pants are a necessary item for isolating wet cloth diapers from any dry material that they may come into contact with. They’re not meant to contain free liquid, at least not for any extended period of time, so add additional absorbent material (soakers, doublers, or added diapers) if the liquid isn’t quickly absorbed. I use a folded terry bath towel as a soaker in mine as it absorb a lot of liquid quickly which is helpful to prevent leaks as I’m a side sleeper.
All washed and cleaned for sure, I really think my issue is having the wrong inserts or not enough, but I'm not sure what to get nor where to get it from honestly.
 
I'm cloth diapering with InControl/Rearz pocket diapers. What in the world can I insert in these to get good absorbency for long periods of sitting? Having discreet cloth diapers for work time would be nice, but I keep getting up to soaked pants and a soaked chair with a microfiber insert, bamboo insert and flat diaper all as stuffing at the same time.

What can I put in that will prevent seated leaks?? I'm so disappointed with how little these contain usage and am seriously considering going back to disposables full time.

Insight on my needs: I flood. Drink a lot, and am male.

Please, any help is appreciated. I'm Canadian in Toronto - on a budget, so I can't afford crazy import fees from the USA for orders.
In regards to cloth if you are wetting a lot you are going to need multiple layers which will not be discreet. Have you considered prefolds?
 
All washed and cleaned for sure, I really think my issue is having the wrong inserts or not enough, but I'm not sure what to get nor where to get it from honestly.
Try some folded terry hand towel for soakers. They absorb rapidly and are thin enough to place in strategic areas where extra absorbency is needed.
 
All washed and cleaned for sure, I really think my issue is having the wrong inserts or not enough, but I'm not sure what to get nor where to get it from honestly.
I ordered some large muslin burp clothes from amazon. Those ones really seem to work for me. I do flood quite a bit, and using at least two is what works for me. I like to put one as a bottom layer, and then add my insert and my Terry towels, then one more muslin on top.
 
It sounds to me like you are wetting a lot, more than the capacity of your inserts. The trick to getting cloth diapers to work well is having the right amount and right types of absorbency, Microfiber will lose a lot of its capacity through compression (sitting and laying down) it soaks fast but doesn't hold it well when squashed, bamboo, cotton and hemp all hold better under compression but are slower to absorb so big heavy floods can leak out before they have time to soak it up.

Amount of Abosorbency.
I use a lot of These inserts which are 4 layers of bamboo microfiber blend and about 20cm wide, 50cm long, blended inserts like this tend not to be as good as two separate inserts dedicated with each fibre type but these are not too bad. However one of these will only hold about 450 ml max and between about 320 and 400 after compression (depending on how much compression)

Knowing how much you go and how often can help figure out how many inserts you will need, you can test the inserts capacity by pouring over a known amount of water in a tray until it's saturated then hanging it up til it stops dripping, pour the excess back into your jug and deduct that from the original amount. Then put the insert back in the tray fold it in half and press on it evenly and firmly then deduct that amount of water to get compressed maximum.

I know for me (after spending several days peeing in a measuring jug) that if I just wee as soon as I need to and try to go every hour i tend to let out between 200 and 350 ml at a time which means two of these inserts will maybe last 3 small wettings over a space of 3 hours before risking leaks when sat. If I hold it until I really need to go I pee about 700-900 ml every 4 to 5 hours which means two of these inserts will be at max capacity after one wetting and be at risk of leaks from compression.

Types of Absorbency/Diaper.
A mix of inserts with different fibres can help, a thinner microfiber layer for fast acquisition and then thicker layers of bamboo or cotton to hold it all, it sounds like you have got this idea right so getting the right amount may help but if not then the next thing to look at is whether the Diaper type is right for you.

Unfortunately pocket diapers tend to be better for light to moderate use, either a few smaller wettings over a longer period or one or two moderate wettings and changed soon after. This is partly because the waterproof layer is sewn on to the inner liner to create the pocket, usually they are made from PUL and because of the way they are made they allow moisture to wick to the outside over time, especially if there is not enough absorbent layers so wee is able to run free under pressure.

If you are sitting once this moisture has wicked to the outside your clothing and the furniture will act almost like another absorbent layer and try to suck more out from inside the diaper through the patch where wicking has happened.

The easiest ways to prevent this are to use separate plastic/waterproof pants over the top, use more inserts to hold it better or to simply change more often so the inserts don't reach a point of over saturation.

The other choice is to use a different diaper type, prefolds, fitteds, or much thicker AIO's can provide better coverage and larger areas for many layers of padding which of course will hold more overall and also allow wee to be absorbed in different places when it gets pressed out by sitting. The downside to this of course is harder changing and less discretion as they are bigger, they can also be easily boosted by using the same inserts.

There are also different styles that use inserts, things like a gusseted waterproof cover (like the threaded armour) or a separate waterproof pouch (like a GDiaper) or an AI2 where the inserts are held in and surrounded by a waterproof fabric but the waterproofing itself is not sewn to any other liner or absorbent material.

There are many types and designs so if you figure out the amount of absorbent layers you will need for a given time period and the pockets are still not working for you then a different type of diaper may be better as they all fit a bit differently and are designed for different levels and types of wetting.

I hope some of this helps you as cloth can be so good when you get it right but does take a little more figuring out than disposables do to get the job done well.
 
In regards to cloth if you are wetting a lot you are going to need multiple layers which will not be discreet. Have you considered prefolds?
I was just going to post this. Prefolds with plastic pants are going to be far more absorbent. Of course, they are less discreet. You have to pick your poison in this case.

I usually wear this setup at night, but I have worn cloth and a waterproof cover during the day for several years at a time. You just have to wear shorts or pants over them that have a full seat and are several sizes larger than your waist.
 
I just gave up using the bamboo inserts for my pocket diapers and bought some XL baby prefolds from Green Mountain Diaper Company. Thus far, I’m pleased with the results. The pocket diapers still only hold a single wetting reliably, but the baby diapers are more comfortable and more absorbent (not to mention far cheaper) than the bamboo inserts have typically been.
 
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