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I suggest we have 3 new sub-forums in Adiministrative Stuff:
1. "What's great about ADISC?"
2. "What's wrong with ADISC? = Complaints Department
3. "How can we improve ADISC?"
My reasons:
1. issues in all three need to be aired, and will be aired anyway; collecting them in one spot will, for various reasons diminish drama (or at least quarantine it,) prevent mods from having to run about investigating and putting out fires, enable genuine concerns to be addressed and not dismissed as individual anomalous gripes, prevent underground movements from turning into groundswells resulting in mass exodus, enable the efficient re-education or expulsion of dissidents and make the site more efficient by eliminating duplication of threads, especially the negative ones.
Peachy said
- and I and others have expressed similar thoughts.
2. Administrative Stuff has been gettin' all cluttered up with issues belonging to categories 2 &
3. "What's great about ADISC?" is badly needed. For one thing, the act of posting there will up the posters' morale; and by focusing on what's right about the place we can isolate where and how improvement is needed - and what should not be changed. Not to mention being a shiny new bauble (marketing tool) to draw lurkers in from the cold
4. Mere single threads can't handle or differentiate the issues belonging to the three categories. For instance, in all three will appear threads on the ranking system, the rep system, the attitude and nature of VIP's, and the impact of the newbie influx.
5. And speaking of newbies, they themselves are good and wanted - but the size of their numbers and their rate of influx does affect the site; hence we must adapt, including recognizing problems endemic to ADISC's growth, such as the mods' workload, and the comfort level of various groups.
I suggest, moreover, that once there is a complaints dept, negrep for dramatic complaints would be used to keep the complaints inside the complaints dept. Yayz, the rep system would be further justified as a tool to further social policy.
Maybe instead of just talking about leaving, upset people will say why they are upset, and those sympathetic to them can say why they are sympathetic. (Z, A)
Maybe all the people saying we should work to improve the site could make concrete suggestions how to go about doing so if they had a place to do so.
1. "What's great about ADISC?"
2. "What's wrong with ADISC? = Complaints Department
3. "How can we improve ADISC?"
My reasons:
1. issues in all three need to be aired, and will be aired anyway; collecting them in one spot will, for various reasons diminish drama (or at least quarantine it,) prevent mods from having to run about investigating and putting out fires, enable genuine concerns to be addressed and not dismissed as individual anomalous gripes, prevent underground movements from turning into groundswells resulting in mass exodus, enable the efficient re-education or expulsion of dissidents
I'm kidding of course! I mean facilitate the easing of discomfort by temperate discussion, and addressing the concerns of members who are unhappy for whatever reason...)
Peachy said
Advice on how to improve the website is always a positive thing, and the more people contribute their advice, the better an idea everyone gets where we should be moving.
But (there's always a but) right now, there's so much discussion on what to do, how to do it, what not to do, what has gone wrong, who is to blame etc etc that no one can keep up. In addition, the discussion is spread among three dozen threads. For instance, there's already a thread about "Cleaning up ADISC".
So my suggestion is:
- Try to keep all the suggestions in one spot. Those people responsible for actually deciding on and implementing any changes (Moo and the staff members) are only human and cannot click through three dozen threads to find that one good suggestion buried among those kazillion post
- Make sure you summarize your suggestions and don't type out a wall of text. Many people have complained that there's too much to read on ADISC to keep up, and another set of wall-o'-text-messages doesn't help.
- Before you post suggestions, collect all the ones you have and then neatly arrange them in one single post where a person with just one minute of time can find out easily what you want (i.e. highlight important parts in bold or underlined text)
- Attempt to separate suggestions for the staff (e.g. tighten moderation) and suggestions for the members (e.g. how to quote properly).
Peachy
2. Administrative Stuff has been gettin' all cluttered up with issues belonging to categories 2 &
3. "What's great about ADISC?" is badly needed. For one thing, the act of posting there will up the posters' morale; and by focusing on what's right about the place we can isolate where and how improvement is needed - and what should not be changed. Not to mention being a shiny new bauble (marketing tool) to draw lurkers in from the cold
4. Mere single threads can't handle or differentiate the issues belonging to the three categories. For instance, in all three will appear threads on the ranking system, the rep system, the attitude and nature of VIP's, and the impact of the newbie influx.
5. And speaking of newbies, they themselves are good and wanted - but the size of their numbers and their rate of influx does affect the site; hence we must adapt, including recognizing problems endemic to ADISC's growth, such as the mods' workload, and the comfort level of various groups.
I suggest, moreover, that once there is a complaints dept, negrep for dramatic complaints
(VIPs are anti-newbie! Raccoon wants an exclusive biodome for snobs! Newbies have ruined the place! Moo has ascended to heaven and left us! There is complaining about all the complaining!)
Maybe instead of just talking about leaving, upset people will say why they are upset, and those sympathetic to them can say why they are sympathetic. (Z, A)
Maybe all the people saying we should work to improve the site could make concrete suggestions how to go about doing so if they had a place to do so.
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