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What happened to the bellissimos? I put one on recently that was in my old stash (not the most recent case) and it felt much nicer and more substantial than the ones from the case I got.

And now I'm REALLY SERIOUSLY sad and upset because I don't know if they will ever be the way they were before.

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Yeah, I know :/

Look back a few pages and you'll find the discussions about this.

The new (upside-down) ones just aren't as absorbent as they used to be (among other quality issues). I ordered 2 cases of Bellissimos with the discount, before reports of the changes came rolling in. They don't seem so bad once you forget what the old ones were like, but I still have some old ones on hand. Not the same, not even close. The Bellissimos are really more like what the Teddies/Classicos/Biancos used to be in terms of absorbency. Be glad you didn't order a case of one of those three; they are pretty lackluster performance-wise now.

I sent an e-mail to Bambino, but received a boilerplate response. One would hope that the person behind the screen is at least giving some thought to the problems people are having. The response I received very clearly stated that the core construction and absorbency spec has not been changed, but I beg to differ. Go ahead and send them an e-mail, letting them know what you think. Couldn't hurt, might help them take the complaints seriously if they keep hearing the same thing.
 

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The Bellissimos are really more like what the Teddies/Classicos/Biancos used to be in terms of absorbency. Be glad you didn't order a case of one of those three; they are pretty lackluster performance-wise now.

Unfortunately this is correct. If the Bellissimos absorb what the old Classico/Teddies did in the past, then the newer ones (at least the case of teddies I got) are almost laughable.

I used teddies almost exclusively for a long time in the past, and I literally was unable to get them even close to leaking despite trying a few times.

With these new teddies however, I've already had quite a few that have leaked after 1-2 wettings. Although they're more comfortable with the new backsheet, something has definitely changed with the padding itself, bambino's promises to the contrary be damned.

This, on top of the regular, ridiculous stock issues bambino has been having (they were totally out of the bambino diapers for months until recently) has me seriously questioning bambino as a legitimate business at all. Something really needs to change there.
 

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I got 2 packs of the new Bellissimo, tho not try them yet.
Tho the Teddies do seem to leak easier.

It seems diaper companies,
no matter if meant for the normal IC public, or the AB community,
both seem to be getting worse.
 

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In a way, I kind of see whats going on from the diaper company point of view. They are kind of at the mercy of whatever factory they contract with. All of the AB diapers made today come from China, so its not like a representative can stop by the factory and see what's being made. Bambino doesn't know what they've got until they open the shipping container at their warehouse. As we've seen, they have been stuck with some factory errors lately. I still think it is awesome that we have companies making diapers just for us. I never could have imagined that years ago.

I wonder-- It would seem to me that the volume of ABUniverse, Bambino, and others would warrant a factory here eventually. When that happens, they will have true quality control.
 

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This REALLY SUCKS! Bellisimos are my favorite and now they go and f**k it up! Sucks! Guess I'll have to find a new favorite. That's going to be hard. Really sad about this.
 

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I haven't had a major issue with my upside down bellisimos. The only issue I've encountered was one bag had a tendency to have weaker plastic just below the taping panel. Absorbency is a same as always, but feels as though it's thinner up top.

To those complaining about stock problems, it's their supplier that has the issue. Not them.

There's also the matter of the plastic change. It's a little...noisier, but still pretty solid. The new top sheet is like cashmere, though.
 

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been a couple months since i used up the last of my diapers..and i've had this little demon in the back of my head all day that's been giving me this irrestistable urge to get some more bellisimos.

now i find out about this :sad:
 

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Even though I haven't tried them, I hate it when companies change the diapers so I sent them a complaint as well and never heard from them but at least I sent it to them. I am really hoping it's an error.
 

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I too, ordered a few when the sale/discount came up. These were my first adult diapers and I've been really disappointed. They're HUGE on a 30" waist and the absorbency in the Teddies and Belissimos that I ordered were disappointing after all I'd heard and read for years. My Belissimo leaked after 3 medium wettings and the Teddy was done after 2. A good Huggies Overnight 6 will hold 2!
 

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I did e-mail them quite awhile ago but haven't heard anything back.

They've probably been overwhelmed with e-mails, just like any product manufacturer is when someone posts that there's something wrong with one of their products. Given that they have responded to those who sent them photos and proof of defects, and replaced them, I'd presume they've learned their lesson about relying on manufacturers in China to get the job done quickly and speedily.
 
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I've been using the new ones and I don't think they're better or worse, just different. The new lining really is more comfy, and I found the fit slightly better with the take positions. However, I agree that they're less absorbent than the old ones (from my very limited two diaper sample).
 

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The absorbency of this batch seems to be similar to the white Fabines (seemingly less absorbant than the regular ones).
 

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They've probably been overwhelmed with e-mails, just like any product manufacturer is when someone posts that there's something wrong with one of their products. Given that they have responded to those who sent them photos and proof of defects, and replaced them, I'd presume they've learned their lesson about relying on manufacturers in China to get the job done quickly and speedily.

Yeah they wanted all of the ones I didn't use back. It took a day or two for them to finally get to me, but as soon as I was uploading all of those photos comparing them they were really speedy.

If anythings changed for the worse performance, I assume it would be how fast they wick up urine. I just always felt wet unlike with the older ones from October which one was marked as july 2013 stock. But then again, all of mine were some of the first ones they rolled out and had a slew of problems.
 

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I'm noticing similar quality issues with mine as well. When I first put mine on, they didn't feel like they fit correctly, and the wings kept bunching up uncomfortably. Was it just a manufacturer error? I really hope so - they're my favorite brand.
 

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The absorbency of this batch seems to be similar to the white Fabines (seemingly less absorbant than the regular ones).

I'm nowhere near certain about this, but I *think* that bambinos and fabines might be made on the same machine/manufacturer. Just with different specifications.

The real culprit in all of this is most likely the manufacturer in China, who seems to have really messed things up.

At the same time however, I expect bambino to have better control/understanding over their suppliers. That's a basic business practice that they seem to be having difficulty with.
 

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Has anyone managed to hear ANYTHING from Bambino on whether they are going to be addressing these quality issues?
 

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I just received a 'boilerplate' response that said they would be looking into changing the placement of the lower tape on the Bellissimos, that the spec for leg elastics is 3-4 strands, and that the core composition (SAP, pulp, absorbency) spec has not changed.

My two cents on that: whether Bambino (the company, headquartered in the U.S.) changed their absorbency spec or not, their manufacturer (location: China) certainly changed something, deliberately or accidentally, as absorbency and SAP content is very noticeably less than it was before this production run.

But officially (as far as I know), they have not acknowledged that there is any issue with the absorbency not being on spec. I was really hoping they'd at least say they were going to look into it...
 

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Wow, even Fabine is treating their customers better on this issue (apparently). I know that they use the same manufacturer as Bambino.

Dear customers,

today we have to inform you,

that the delivery of the new Fabine Exklusiv will have a delay.

After our quality testing we have some small deficiencies identified,

and because it is a medical priduct we could and would not sell these diapers.


We accessed a new delivery, and this will be ok.

Because in far East the new year holidays ( 25. Jan - 16. Feb ) will come now,

the next delivery will be here approx. end of March 2014.

Thank you for your understanding.



Your's Buntewindel Team
 
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