banning disposable diapers

[DannyBBaby]

I have been reading that.

Vanuatu to ban disposable nappies.​

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...appies-in-plastics-crackdown-we-had-no-choice

 

[MikeDJ]

But then where does it stop? Theres essentially plastic in everything. Tons of plastic packaging in just about everythingn styrofoam in all the dumpsters. Micro plastics in all the clothing that is now in the oceans. So then will there be bans on all that stuff too?? I thought there was a type of plastic that breaks down. It was like the plastic on diapers or shopping bags. They are going to have to ban a heck of a lot more than just diapers to curb plastics.

 

[ArgentBuffalo]

Rarely is this so simple as a yes-no choice.

Disposables require less time to manage, time which usually comes from caregivers. They also are more absorbent for their bulk, require fewer changes, and can be more comfortable to wear and use compared to certain cloth diapering methods. On the other hand, they are explicitly meant to go (and sometimes don't end up) in the trash, which has to be (and sometimes isn't) responsibly managed. For Vanuatu, a relatively small island chain nation, which probably has issues dealing with garbage in general, it would make sense to try and cut back on the volume.

That being said, more loads of laundry = more water consumption and more energy consumed, both of which I suspect are also issues for an island nation. However the reduction in plastic litter might be well worth it.

Ultimately what I think is needed for a situation like this is a mix of high-performing biodegradable disposables and quality reusables, and people (ABDLs/IC folks included) who are willing to be flexible.

As long as the law encourages technological product evolution and is wise about how it gets people to transition, I don't find bans like this to be an issue. And as a diaper wearer, I would love to be able to pound through a case of disposables with less guilt.

 

[Seabear]

Hope this never happens, will have to stock up big time

 

[Rob110]

They is biodegradable plastics they can use but the cost is about 3 x the existing plastics so there is an alternative unfortunately disposable diapers are the best option especially for adults as changing a cloth diaper in public places would be a pain not to mention dealing with wet diapers storage wise

 

[ianwee]

Ultimately what I think is needed for a situation like this is a mix of high-performing biodegradable disposables and quality reusables, and people (ABDLs/IC folks included) who are willing to be flexible.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Nowididit]

Like an island nation of 300k ppl is gonna make a difference in a world of 8.1bil ppl. Give me a break already.

As I walk thru the grocery stores and see all the plastics being used I truly believe disposable diapers are not the main issue here. We are in a society that is now demanding more single serve products than ever. From single serve fruit cups to ball point pens. I challenge anyone to just look around when they are shopping and see all the plastic packaging. Disposable diapers are just a drop in the bucket.
2 prime examples of single serve items that come to mind are KCups and bottled water.
Anyone ever notice the more some ppl scream about environmental waste the more unnecessary and environmentally damaging products are produced?
They are so many ways to cut the over use of plastics, disposable diapers shouldn't even be part of that thought process.⬇️

 

[DiaperedDragon]

Like an island nation of 300k ppl is gonna make a difference in a world of 8.1bil ppl. Give me a break already.

As I walk thru the grocery stores and see all the plastics being used I truly believe disposable diapers are not the main issue here. We are in a society that is now demanding more single serve products than ever. From single serve fruit cups to ball point pens. I challenge anyone to just look around when they are shopping and see all the plastic packaging. Disposable diapers are just a drop in the bucket.
2 prime examples of single serve items that come to mind are KCups and bottled water.
Anyone ever notice the more some ppl scream about environmental waste the more unnecessary and environmentally damaging products are produced?
They are so many ways to cut the over use of plastics, disposable diapers shouldn't even be part of that thought process.⬇️

Nicely said, the only think I've thought about lately is the government says its bad to use single used plastics, but 50% of all consumer packaging is plastic...

 

[bdale]

Disposable diapers give incontinent adults freedom to live a near normal life. We would not be able to travel or have extended time away from home without severe inconvenience and embarrassment. Do we need to go back to the dark ages to satisfy the environmentalist?

 

[Pelusos]

These mikronesian and polinesian island can see the global weather warming and ocean lever raising directly and their goverments try to do something. Sometimes these ordinances are usefull and sometimes not. To ban the disposable diapers is just the top of the iceberg, but on the anothet hand: were are speaking about it.

 

[Subtlerustle]

In my province of Ontario they’re raising the taxes on beer…again. It’s already insanely expensive. At the same time we have an advanced western infrastructure and safe drinking water yet people schlep 24 packs of bottled water to their homes. We could tax the 💩 of the ridiculous conspicuous consumption like that and kill two birds with one stone but alas, I’m not in charge of 💩
Disposable diapers should be engineered to be more friendly but it’s low on the list of offenders.

 

[PupSpaz]

This puppy torn too... Plastics as they exist today are absolutely a major environmental problem, and the current economics make them dirt cheap and are a major source of revenue to the big oil companies. There's no financial incentive to make things easily recyclable - unless we create one such as pricing items so they include the cost for disposal and or recycling at the point of purchase. Incineration and electricity generation could be valid if the pollution created is made moot. Purpose built recycling for existing diaper technology could also play a role, but that means we'd have to separate the diapers from the waste steam - human waste and diaper pulp make good fertilizer!

Things will change, and they should. Waterproof covers (and other components) for our diapers can be made from something other than oil / plastic - we just haven't discovered what that is yet that's afordable and not such an environmental issue. Although it probably won't have the texture, look and feel of the plastic backed diapers most of us enjoy, we'll adapt.

 

[LucasFromTazmily]

Banning disposable diapers would probably be interesting. It would probably only apply to the sale and possibly manufacture of disposables in Vanuatu - I'd hardly believe the police would be knocking at your door over diapers. Obviously the main aim is to stop parents using disposables, and since they're probably not ordering online, it would likely be effective.

 

[Pamperboy2022]

I love my DISPOSABLE PAMPERS!!!! DONT CHANGE A THING!!! I WANT TO BE IN DISPOSABLE DIAPERS FOREVER!!!!

 

[littledub1955]

But then where does it stop? Theres essentially plastic in everything. Tons of plastic packaging in just about everythingn styrofoam in all the dumpsters. Micro plastics in all the clothing that is now in the oceans. So then will there be bans on all that stuff too?? I thought there was a type of plastic that breaks down. It was like the plastic on diapers or shopping bags. They are going to have to ban a heck of a lot more than just diapers to curb plastics.

I remember reading somewhere that they have developed biodegradable plastics. If a biodegradable absorbent gel were ever developed, eventually, landfills would see less and less disposable diapers that wouldn't break down until no one make disposable diapers that weren't completely biodegradable. I believe that we will be able to purchase such diapers in the near future. I'm strictly old fashioned pin on style cotton diapers but I would like to see that happen for all my fellow ABDL baby girls and boys out there.

 

[littledub1955]

Like an island nation of 300k ppl is gonna make a difference in a world of 8.1bil ppl. Give me a break already.

As I walk thru the grocery stores and see all the plastics being used I truly believe disposable diapers are not the main issue here. We are in a society that is now demanding more single serve products than ever. From single serve fruit cups to ball point pens. I challenge anyone to just look around when they are shopping and see all the plastic packaging. Disposable diapers are just a drop in the bucket.
2 prime examples of single serve items that come to mind are KCups and bottled water.
Anyone ever notice the more some ppl scream about environmental waste the more unnecessary and environmentally damaging products are produced?
They are so many ways to cut the over use of plastics, disposable diapers shouldn't even be part of that thought process.⬇️

You forgot to include the hundreds of millions of actual little babies who already wear disposables. Make inexpensive, fully biodegradable diapers for real babies and adult babies will be able to enjoy wearing and using them too.

 

[littledub1955]

They is biodegradable plastics they can use but the cost is about 3 x the existing plastics so there is an alternative unfortunately disposable diapers are the best option especially for adults as changing a cloth diaper in public places would be a pain not to mention dealing with wet diapers storage wise

Cost will eventually come down. High speed robotics will make it possible.

 

[littledub1955]

I love my DISPOSABLE PAMPERS!!!! DONT CHANGE A THING!!! I WANT TO BE IN DISPOSABLE DIAPERS FOREVER!!!!

Fully biodegradable Pampers that are even more absorbent is in the future.

 

[BabyLink9]

Isn’t the future of diapers to go biodegradable anyways? Idk what the progress is in any of that, but a bunch of diapers have been shown off over the years to do just that. Does anyone have any experience with biodegradable diapers?

 

[Antientmariner]

Like an island nation of 300k ppl is gonna make a difference in a world of 8.1bil ppl. Give me a break already.

As I walk thru the grocery stores and see all the plastics being used I truly believe disposable diapers are not the main issue here. We are in a society that is now demanding more single serve products than ever. From single serve fruit cups to ball point pens. I challenge anyone to just look around when they are shopping and see all the plastic packaging. Disposable diapers are just a drop in the bucket.
2 prime examples of single serve items that come to mind are KCups and bottled water.
Anyone ever notice the more some ppl scream about environmental waste the more unnecessary and environmentally damaging products are produced?
They are so many ways to cut the over use of plastics, disposable diapers shouldn't even be part of that thought process.⬇️

As someone who lives in California, I'm sure they'll impliment some more effective ways of banning plastic here. If plastic backed diapers were banned here, I wouldn't know what to do. How much money could I dump into one last purchase?