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mbby said:
Hey, don't fight her too much on the 100% baby time. Just see how it goes for a while and see how you adapt to the total baby time. Remember you wanted to nurse on her so now you have to give it a chance.
Yes, you are correct, I did want to nurse.
But I am a little put-off by her sudden indulgence into 100% Baby Mode.
The whole "return to ANR" was her idea from the beginning, she simply asked me if I would like to nurse.

Over the past couple of days she has gotten very demanding about all of this, almost overbearing.
I am guessing it is all the hormones from inducing lactation.

I am being limited on my computer time, and instead, being encouraged to spend more time with my Legos, blocks, toy trucks, etc.
She enjoys watching me crawl around on the floor building things with my blocks.
When I asked her if I could spend a little time in my shop/lab yesterday, she laughed and reminded me that the last time I came up with a decent idea, it was whiile I was playing with my Legos.
(That idea's license brought in nearly a quarter-million, so I haven't got much to argue about on that front.)
But I would like a few hours each week to work in my shop/lab, even so... and she says, "We will see..."

I have also seen her try to hide a bottle of Miralax from me.
My stools have suddenly gotten much softer, and I seem to be messing my diaper with-out much effort.
I believe that she is lacing my bottles of formula with Miralax.

When I try to have any conversation with Lilly, she immediately gets in my face with baby-talk.

We did this same sort of thing when we were first married, approx. 40 years ago, and I was barely past my teen years.
For all intents, and her purposes, I became 100% baby for her for nearly two years.

It was during that time that she would parade me around unfamiliar areas, dressed up as a toddler, and telling people that I was her "special needs son."
She used to pass me off as being anywhere from 9 to 14 years old, and she made sure that I was always dressed in such a way that nobody could miss the fact that I was diapered.
If we tried that sort of thing now, I am sure we'd be arrested. I can pass for 35 to 40 yeas old, but trying to make people believe that I'm a teenager would be outlandish!

I just want her to know that I don't want to go to THAT extreme, and I am way to old to pass for a child anymore.
 
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DonnieDiaper said:
Yes, you are correct, I did want to nurse.
But I am a little put-off by her sudden indulgence into 100% Baby Mode.
The whole "return to ANR" was her idea from the beginning, she simply asked me if I would like to nurse.

Over the past couple of days she has gotten very demanding about all of this, almost overbearing.
I am guessing it is all the hormones from inducing lactation.
Be Grateful and happy in your little world. Some of us could only dream of.
My X-wife stated once, careful what you dream of, for it might come true more then you expected or wanted.
adding what if one day, she like playing baby/mommy taking it to the next level, more than I did, what would I do then?
Our problem came about, dry nursing and using a SNS to simulate feeding, did help show signs of Induced lactation.
Her breasts became sore and little bit swollen, and she thought she had a medical condition. rather than being happy, she got upset and pushed me away. telling me that play time was ok, but to go through all the trouble, pain and discomfort just for me, was not going to happen. as it would just be a reminder that she wanted a baby and could not have one of her own, (not me, or even though adoption)
One thing led to another and with the loss of communication our relationship ended in divorce. After 20 years being together.
 
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DonnieDiaper said:
Yes, you are correct, I did want to nurse.
But I am a little put-off by her sudden indulgence into 100% Baby Mode.
The whole "return to ANR" was her idea from the beginning, she simply asked me if I would like to nurse.

Over the past couple of days she has gotten very demanding about all of this, almost overbearing.
I am guessing it is all the hormones from inducing lactation.

I am being limited on my computer time, and instead, being encouraged to spend more time with my Legos, blocks, toy trucks, etc.
She enjoys watching me crawl around on the floor building things with my blocks.
When I asked her if I could spend a little time in my shop/lab yesterday, she laughed and reminded me that the last time I came up with a decent idea, it was whiile I was playing with my Legos.
(That idea's license brought in nearly a quarter-million, so I haven't got much to argue about on that front.)
But I would like a few hours each week to work in my shop/lab, even so... and she says, "We will see..."

I have also seen her try to hide a bottle of Miralax from me.
My stools have suddenly gotten much softer, and I seem to be messing my diaper with-out much effort.
I believe that she is lacing my bottles of formula with Miralax.

When I try to have any conversation with Lilly, she immediately gets in my face with baby-talk.

We did this same sort of thing when we were first married, approx. 40 years ago, and I was barely past my teen years.
For all intents, and her purposes, I became 100% baby for her for nearly two years.

It was during that time that she would parade me around unfamiliar areas, dressed up as a toddler, and telling people that I was her "special needs son."
She used to pass me off as being anywhere from 9 to 14 years old, and she made sure that I was always dressed in such a way that nobody could miss the fact that I was diapered.
If we tried that sort of thing now, I am sure we'd be arrested. I can pass for 35 to 40 yeas old, but trying to make people believe that I'm a teenager would be outlandish!

I just want her to know that I don't want to go to THAT extreme, and I am way to old to pass for a child anymore.
Well, I do not have a horse in this race, and it has only been a week; but if you stand up and "be a Man" and try to take control and dictate terms, you may find yourself spending the rest of your life wishing you still had a loving, caring Wife. Unless you have something simmering on the back burner that you just have to get to, think long and hard about breaking her bubble by just saying NO MORE.

Keep trying to communicate and maybe ask her if what she is doing could be related to the shots she just got?? For sure I would not let her take you to town as her special needs child to the point that you think you would be arrested.

It's a tough call. You know your wife better than we do. Is it the shots or is it really her, or is there something else going on? Communication, Communication, Communication !!

Good Luck babydoll.
 
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I would have to say she had all this in mind when she started it a few weeks ago. Got you all set up enjoying the baby mode, and dropped the hammer.
 
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While Lilly is upstairs doing her housework, I have been down here in the playroom.
She just came down a few minutes ago to "check on me" and noticed that my diaper is a little wet, "but can wait until lunch time."
I figured I would take a minute to sneak online.

Today is DAY # 23 of pumping, massaging, dry nursing, etc.

This morning I got a little surprise:
Lilly was "dual pumping" this morning, and while she was pumping she got about a teaspoon of thicker orange tinted liquid from each breast.
She immediately shut off the machine and cuddled me up to her breast.
I got a little of the liquid from each nipple, but not very much, I would guess maybe a couple of teaspoons total.
It is a little thicker than regular breast milk, and a little more tart and slightly salty.

It is what some people call "Liquid Gold,"AKA COLOSTRUM.
It's really good for you, and some people refer to it as a "Superfood."

Lilly called her doctor, just to be sure we were okay with this, and he told her NOT to waste it!
He told her that colostrum is good for both babies and adults, and she should see if I was willing to drink it.
He also told her that this means she should be experiencing a "Milk Let Down" very soon, usually a day or two.
I did finish up the little bit in each container from the pump.

I am SO excited!
 
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DonnieDiaper said:
While Lilly is upstairs doing her housework, I have been down here in the playroom.
She just came down a few minutes ago to "check on me" and noticed that my diaper is a little wet, "but can wait until lunch time."
I figured I would take a minute to sneak online.

Today is DAY # 23 of pumping, massaging, dry nursing, etc.

This morning I got a little surprise:
Lilly was "dual pumping" this morning, and while she was pumping she got about a teaspoon of thicker orange tinted liquid from each breast.
She immediately shut off the machine and cuddled me up to her breast.
I got a little of the liquid from each nipple, but not very much, I would guess maybe a couple of teaspoons total.
It is a little thicker than regular breast milk, and a little more tart and slightly salty.

It is what some people call "Liquid Gold,"AKA COLOSTRUM.
It's really good for you, and some people refer to it as a "Superfood."

Lilly called her doctor, just to be sure we were okay with this, and he told her NOT to waste it!
He told her that colostrum is good for both babies and adults, and she should see if I was willing to drink it.
He also told her that this means she should be experiencing a "Milk Let Down" very soon, usually a day or two.
I did finish up the little bit in each container from the pump.

I am SO excited!
Congratulations, keep it going. This will be a wonderful life for both of you.
 

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Day # 26

The "Milk Fairy" visited us during the night!

Started suckling this morning, expecting to get a little bit of colostrum...
BIG SURPRISE!!!
Mommy's milk!

The "Milk Fairy" must have visited us during the night, and thought, "She's worked so had at this, I will give her a double blessing."

AFTER getting "my fill" at both breasts, Lilly proceeded to feed me my bottle while she finished off emptying her supply with the pump.
I thought I'd pretty much emptied her, but she got a little over an ounce from her left, and nearly two more ounces from the right!

I am in "Baby Heaven"
 
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Lyric said:
I do hope the two of you are mindful of maintaining an age appropriate diet for you. After all infants are at one stage of growth and folks our age are at an entirely different phase. Limiting yourself to mom's milk and Gerber's baby food may not be the best diet.
Thank you for your concern.
I brought this up to Lilly, and she will be giving me a bottle or two of Ensure each day, plus my Centrum Silver, D3, C, B Complex, etc.
She has also reconsidered that maybe we should buy the Beechnut or Gerber Toddler jars in addition to regular baby food.
 
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Sweetness! Congrats to the two of you. I hope it draws you closer together.
 

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Maybe a better thing so to use a bullet food grinder and make her own baby food more to your health needs as an adult it still looks like a baby food .
 

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DonnieDiaper said:
Day # 26

The "Milk Fairy" visited us during the night!

Started suckling this morning, expecting to get a little bit of colostrum...
BIG SURPRISE!!!
Mommy's milk!

The "Milk Fairy" must have visited us during the night, and thought, "She's worked so had at this, I will give her a double blessing."

AFTER getting "my fill" at both breasts, Lilly proceeded to feed me my bottle while she finished off emptying her supply with the pump.
I thought I'd pretty much emptied her, but she got a little over an ounce from her left, and nearly two more ounces from the right!

I am in "Baby Heaven"
You are truly living the dream!
 
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foxkits said:
Maybe a better thing so to use a bullet food grinder and make her own baby food more to your health needs as an adult it still looks like a baby food .
I will mention that.
We have one of those somewhere around here.
Haven't used it in years.
 
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DonnieDiaper said:
Day # 26

The "Milk Fairy" visited us during the night!

Started suckling this morning, expecting to get a little bit of colostrum...
BIG SURPRISE!!!
Mommy's milk!

The "Milk Fairy" must have visited us during the night, and thought, "She's worked so had at this, I will give her a double blessing."

AFTER getting "my fill" at both breasts, Lilly proceeded to feed me my bottle while she finished off emptying her supply with the pump.
I thought I'd pretty much emptied her, but she got a little over an ounce from her left, and nearly two more ounces from the right!

I am in "Baby Heaven"
I am having the BEST DAY in a long time!
I wrote a little about it here
 

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DonnieDiaper said:
Day # 26

The "Milk Fairy" visited us during the night!

Started suckling this morning, expecting to get a little bit of colostrum...
BIG SURPRISE!!!
Mommy's milk!

The "Milk Fairy" must have visited us during the night, and thought, "She's worked so had at this, I will give her a double blessing."

AFTER getting "my fill" at both breasts, Lilly proceeded to feed me my bottle while she finished off emptying her supply with the pump.
I thought I'd pretty much emptied her, but she got a little over an ounce from her left, and nearly two more ounces from the right!

I am in "Baby Heaven"
Congratulations. Just keep it up and you will have to suck a little longer the next time. You should be nursing several times a day. Good luck.
 
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I am re-discovering some of the consequences of babyhood.
One is that I find that I am soiling my diaper almost everytime I nurse.

Lilly did confess that she is mixing Miralax into the bottles of Ensure, and that makes my bowels easier to pass.
Lilly is putting a full dose of Miralax into each bottle of Ensure, and since I am getting two per day, that is a double dose of stool softener.
What I am finding is that when I am nursing, my bottom goes into "auto" mode, and I seem to be soiling my diaper without any conscience effort.

Every time I soil my diaper Lilly gets all gushy and sweet and baby talks to me.
She actually enjoys changing poopy diapers, and is making it a bonding experience every time.
She is honestly thrilled with every dirty diaper, and she is saying it is because it proves that I am really a baby... HER baby.

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Is Miralax approved for long term use? Many such products are for short term only.
 

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something to think about
Few men know that nipple stimulation releases a powerful chemical in the brain known as oxytocin. This chemical produces intense bonding feelings such as trust and love. This reaction probably has something to do with breast feeding and making a mother feel close with a child,
so she takes proper care of them.
 
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Halfdan said:
something to think about
Few men know that nipple stimulation releases a powerful chemical in the brain known as oxytocin. This chemical produces intense bonding feelings such as trust and love. This reaction probably has something to do with breast feeding and making a mother feel close with a child,
so she takes proper care of them.
Yes it's close to orgasmic feeling.
It's so mother will want to feed there young just like sex if it didn't feel so good we never would have had kids. Funny how things were created to work so well. We remember what feels good as much as what feels bad. The bad is not to hurt ones self again. The good is to repeat feeling good.
 
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DonnieDiaper said:
I am re-discovering some of the consequences of babyhood.
One is that I find that I am soiling my diaper almost everytime I nurse.

Lilly did confess that she is mixing Miralax into the bottles of Ensure, and that makes my bowels easier to pass.
Lilly is putting a full dose of Miralax into each bottle of Ensure, and since I am getting two per day, that is a double dose of stool softener.
What I am finding is that when I am nursing, my bottom goes into "auto" mode, and I seem to be soiling my diaper without any conscience effort.

Every time I soil my diaper Lilly gets all gushy and sweet and baby talks to me.
She actually enjoys changing poopy diapers, and is making it a bonding experience every time.
She is honestly thrilled with every dirty diaper, and she is saying it is because it proves that I am really a baby... HER baby.

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I agree Miralax should be only taken over a short period of time and not long term. It could have a health impact of done too long. Lilly might want to back off to once a day or once every couple of days. It would be enough to keep you healthy but not overburden your body and still have the natural feeling of messing.

Breast milk does have its own laxatives' that will affect your body.

Good luck, it seems you are on the long road into baby life.
 
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Mommy is talking about getting on a regular schedule; not just a nursing schedule, but she wants a full schedule for her and the baby.
She suggested that since I am so involed in these adult baby groups, that maybe other Mommies and babies could share their schedules, and she could use that as a guide.

I believe that with all of this treatment, I am actually feeling more and more like a real baby every day.
Mentally, I actually seem to be taking on more of the perspective of a small child or infant.

I am copying this from what she has written down.
She is "open to suggestions" from others, but I may only offer small tidbits.
This is the schedule she came up with, and says that I have NO REAL SAY in any of this:

2:00 AM
Nurse Baby,
change diaper if needed,
put Baby back down for sleep

7:00 AM
Get up, shower, and dress
pump enough milk to relieve pressure,
start housework

8:30 AM
Wake Baby,
feed Baby breakfast,
(Cream of Wheat, Cream of Rice, Oatmeal, etc.)
short nursing session,
change Baby if needed,
dress Baby
send Baby down to playroom with a bottle of Ensure,
finish housework

10:30 AM
"Mommy time" to relax and enjoy herself:
Go downstairs and watch over Baby as he plays
Watch some TV
Read a book or magazine
Pump to relieve pressure (if needed) while relaxing

12:00 NOON
Go upstairs, leave Baby to play by himself
Make lunch for Baby and Mommy
Mommy eats first while Baby is still playing downstairs
Finish making Baby's lunch
Bring Baby up from playroom and feed him
(Gerber or Beechnut, followed by Speghetti-O's, Mac and Cheese, or finger foods)
Clean Baby up from lunch and take him downstairs
Nurse Baby in Cuddle Chair
Keep checking diaper condition
Change Baby, use triple diapers and lots of Desitin
(Baby should "smell like a baby!")
Put Baby down for nap with bottle of water

2:00 PM
If not already awake: Wake Baby from nap
Depending on breast situation, give Baby a short nursing session or a bottle of breast milk
Change Baby's diaper
Give Baby a quick bath or a sponge bath.
Coat Baby with lots of baby lotion
Put Baby back into a fresh DOUBLE thick diaper and a HEAVY coating of Desitin
(the smell will remind him that he IS a baby!)

3:00 PM
Monday, Wednesday, and Friday ONLY:

Allow Baby to go out back to his "Shop/Lab" to "work" as an "adult"
Give him a bottle of Ensure and a bottle of water to take with him
(Both bottles MUST be empty when he comes back into house!)

Tuesday, Thursday, and Weekends:
Send Baby back to playroom with bottles of Ensure and water
(Both bottles MUST be empty when he comes back upstairs!)
(During this time, pump breasts if needed for comfort.)

5:30 PM
Start preparing dinner
Call Baby upstairs or back into house

6:00 PM
Dinner time for Mommy and Baby
Feed Baby the same food as Mommy, but put it in Magic Bullet Blender first

AFTER DINNER:
while Mommy cleans up and does the dishes, Baby can play in the livingroom on a blanket
After dishes, Mommy can take Baby back to playroom to play while Mommy pumps and watches TV

7:30 PM to 8:00 PM
give Baby a bath
Mommy can shower or get in tub with Baby
Put Baby in triple diapers with lots of Desitin and powder
Mommy gets in PJ's and gets comfortable for evening

8:00 PM
Cuddle up in chair to watch TV together
Mommy's Choice: During this time Baby may nurse if hungry or if Mommy is uncomfortable

10:00 PM
Take Baby to bed,
Last nursing session of the day
(Mommy will decide if Baby will sleep with Mommy in her big bed, or in his own crib)
 
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