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Abena x-plus or secure x plus?

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Jon

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I'm a little confused which is which... They both seem to have the same features. Could anyone who's tried either brand tell me which they thought was better between those two types [if they are indeed different], and which one you thought was the better diaper.

As soon as I figure it out, I'm ordering :)
 
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I've used both and prefer Secure X-plus greatly over Abena X-plus.

The Secure X-Plus have a taping zone that easily allows you to greatly adjust the location of where you placed the tape. Abena's use that weird dual blue/white taping system that I have not gotten to stay taped for any length of time.

Absorbency wise they are very similar.

To be completely honest though, you should get either a sample or a single bag of each and see which you prefer.
 

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I've tried both, I personally think the Abena's are a bit better in that they are generally a bit more absorbent. The Secure's do have a few things going for them. They are a bit lower profile so they are a bit more discreet when wearing under clothes; the tapes are excellent and truly are refastenable as there is an actual taping zone and they don't ride up as high as the abena's do. The abenas generally ride up past my belly button while the secures are lower in profile.
 
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I agree with Ace. I think Secures are nearly identical in construction to Bambinos. They may be made in the same factory.
 
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The secure x plus has a blue inside, and a white outside. They also have a clear plastic taping panel on the front, and provided the single tapes stay on this, you can untape and retape them as many times as you want.

The abena x plus is white inside and out, and in my opinion, a little more absorbant. They have no taping panel, but they have backup tapes. If you miss or need to adjust the tapes, you can just seperate the blue ones from the white ones, and try again. If you don't need the second tapes, you can use them to ball up and tape it shut when you go to throw it away.

I feel the secure one has poor construction though. For reasons unknown to me, sometimes I feel like making a pullup diaper. That's when I tape one up before putting it on, then slip it on like a pullup, or underwear, usually when I want a really fast change. The abenas did this fine, but when trying it with the secure, like the third time I did it, it just split right up the middle, and stuffing fell all over the place.



Also, here's something else to keep in mind.

XP Medical is the best place to buy the abris. They're a good, reputable business, and when they say discreet packaging, they MEAN it.

The secure X plus must be bought from..... I can't remember the name since I tried+abandoned them, but THEIR idea of 'discreet packaging' is a plain brown box, like XP medical......... only it also has a giant sticker on the side which reads "SECURE PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS INC." And also has their logo, their website, and a phone number on it.



It's about as discreet as wearing 5 of them all at once out in public would be. I never intend to do business with that company again.
 

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First thing... There are quite a few threads on this exact subject, and even a few more comparing the Secures and Abenas to the Dry 24/7.

In short, the Abenas are slightly more absorbent, but the Secure X-Plus has better tapes, a better tape landing zone, and the filling doesn't bunch up like the Abenas do. Secure X-Plus is the exact same diaper as the Bambinos (with the exception of the front panel design, and wetness indicator), and are made in the same factory.

The secure X plus must be bought from..... I can't remember the name since I tried+abandoned them, but THEIR idea of 'discreet packaging' is a plain brown box, like XP medical......... only it also has a giant sticker on the side which reads "SECURE PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS INC." And also has their logo, their website, and a phone number on it.



It's about as discreet as wearing 5 of them all at once out in public would be. I never intend to do business with that company again.
Guess what I just got today... A case of Secure X-Pluses. Oddly, my box has no "giant stickers", and only has an indescript logo in one corner.



The logo reads:

Secure X Plus
Medium
4 Bags of 12
Reorder No. SR97033
Dist. By G Hirsch and Co. Inc
Burlingame, Ca 94010

No website, no phone number, and no "giant sticker". In my experience, Secure Personal Care has been just as good to me as XP is, even turning the box inside out when requested (I used to have them sent to work).

Shame that you won't give them your business... They've done a lot for the ABDL community, including supporting events with free samples, supporting websites with advertising, and introducing an entire line of diapers tailor made just for us.
 

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Abena has a wider range of sizes and fit me better. I like the Secure tapes better, but still find the Abenas more comfortable. Try them and see what works best for you, is the best advice anybody can offer.
 

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The website is Secure Personal Care
This is the first time I've ordered these as well, and am just finishing up the bag. They are probably my most favored diaper thus far, mainly because of the fact that they can be worn, and you don't have to worry about using it, so you can take it off and retape it later with just as much stickyness as the first.

Apparently, no one that has posted on this thread has read the FAQ's on the Secure Personal Care website, so I'll quote it:
What type of packaging are products received in?

All of our products are packaged and shipped in factory-sealed packages. We also offer discreet packaging - when checking out, simply ask for "discreet shipping" and we'll ship your box out in completely discreet shipping! While most of our products come in plain brown boxes with little or no descriptive markings, a few of our underpads and pads/liners do have more descriptive markings on the outside. It is always best to ask for fully discreet shipping if you require it . Our shipping label simply states our warehouse address and the abbreviation of our company name: "SPCP, LLC."
And so I did that when I checked out, and it came exactly as they said, with only "SPCP, LLC." on the label.
 
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They've done a lot for the ABDL community, including supporting events with free samples, supporting websites with advertising, and introducing an entire line of diapers tailor made just for us.
Haha, you just sold me jay, I am buying secure x-plus next time! lol I feel that a diper company who can do that for our community deserves not only mine, but every abdl, since supposedly their product is good.
 

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I went ahead and ordered the secures online this morning. They should be here by the weekend and I'll get back to you all.
 

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Nice dude... Now don't discount the Abenas either. They're a fantastic diaper to try as well. Both have their positive attributes.
 

Jon

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I'm sure I'll try those too sometime, but I had money to spend on some diapers, so I had to choose between them this time. Oh well! I'll try them next time.
 
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Nice dude... Now don't discount the Abenas either. They're a fantastic diaper to try as well. Both have their positive attributes.
Oh....I am already a loyal abena customer, but I will have to break that next purchase for secures.
 
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Guess what I just got today... A case of Secure X-Pluses. Oddly, my box has no "giant stickers", and only has an indescript logo in one corner.

The logo reads:

Secure X Plus
Medium
4 Bags of 12
Reorder No. SR97033
Dist. By G Hirsch and Co. Inc
Burlingame, Ca 94010

I guess that's what they consider 'discreet' for cases. I didn't order a case, just a couple bags, and mine had a big sticker over the shipping label, it wasn't just ink-stamped onto the side of the box like yours. I very clearly remember seeing a phone number, a web site address, and that little company logo which, if memory serves me, looks like a little person, but is kind of 'P' shaped. I dreaded what would've happened if someone OTHER than me got ahold of that 'discreet packaging'.

I personally wouldn't consider what you got discreet, as it's listing contents, size, and pieces. To me, not much else could scream "DIAPERS" like that.

If I had a digital camera and foresight, I would've taken a picture to show. And to compare, I would've taken a picture of 'discreet' packing from XP Medical.


Their (good) idea of discreet is a label that says "XP" and has the president's name on it, and the address it came from...... NOTHING ELSE. Not the name of what you got, not the count of what's in the bag, nothing dodgy like that. That's the main reason (well, good customer service too) that XP gets all my business whenever I feel up to ordering something.

And so I did that when I checked out, and it came exactly as they said, with only "SPCP, LLC." on the label.

For what it's worth, I asked for the discreet packing, and even asked again in a comments section when I made my order. When I got the non discreet packaging i'm talking about currently, I fired off a.. shall we say, discontent e-mail about how non discreet the packaging was.

I never received a reply, and thus, never ordered from them again. But maybe they made some changes since then. This was maybe a year or two ago, just when they started appearing and advertising. Maybe it's changed by now, I don't know.


P.S. If this company also produces the bambinos, then I don't know what to say. I've ordered those in the past, and they came in a single brown box with no identification as to what was inside, AT ALL. I've since stopped ordering them, since you'd be hard pressed to bluff off diaper usage with the colorful taping strip bambinos have on them.
 
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That is interesting. To ensure that I get my package discreet, I emailed them right after my order (other than putting it in the comments on the PayPal payment). I don't know if that email helped or not, but I got it discreet. I intend on ordering from them again some day soon.
 
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