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Hey, everyone!

For those of you who don't know, I stream to Twitch.tv regularly. That persona is completely separate from my ABDL-website persona. I'm pretty passionate about doing ABDL-related stuff as well as my video game streaming, so I was wondering about sort-of combining them.

I'd potentially be interested in doing a regular-ish stream where I dressed up in AB-related clothes and streamed to an audience of ABs and DLs. This wouldn't be a "camgirl" stream or anything like that; the absolute minimum amount of clothing I would wear would be a t-shirt and diaper, and although I might wet on stream, I wouldn't talk about it or emphasize it at all. I'd probably intentionally step off-stream if I need to go and my diaper is exposed-ish.

Basically, the point would be to get a bunch of awesome ABs and DLs who like video games to hang out around a video game stream. I might even play some ABDL-themed games if there are any decent ones! We'd of course talk about ABDL-related stuff in addition to whatever video game/life stuff was going on.

I'd think it would essentially function as a live video-game-themed ABDL podcast. I might even have a different theme for each week!

Obviously, I wouldn't stream this on Twitch, but rather on another streaming website - Twitch would probably ban it quickly for being ABDL-related and I'd also rather avoid associations with my other Twitch identity.

Anyways, would you guys like something like this? I'd really like to do it if there would be people to hang out with while I streamed.
 

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I'm not too sure what you're expecting from an internet audience on this, but there is a huge chance of creepiness. I would also be wary that this is very much a "what happens on the internet stays on the internet, forever" type of deal.


I guess my general caution here is that putting your image out like this comes with a lot of baggage that a podcast or ordinary Twitch stream does not.
 

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I'm not too sure what you're expecting from an internet audience on this, but there is a huge chance of creepiness. I would also be wary that this is very much a "what happens on the internet stays on the internet, forever" type of deal.


I guess my general caution here is that putting your image out like this comes with a lot of baggage that a podcast or ordinary Twitch stream does not.

I'm well aware of that. I'd be taking some precautions - making sure the channel is unlisted + password protected and only distributing the password on ABDL sites should help. I can always file DMCA claims on anyone who puts up pictures/videos without permission.

Also, I'm aware of the creepiness and I'm actually used to quite a bit of it on my own channel. I'd be moderating the ABDL stream just as heavily as my Twitch chat.
 

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Most things of that nature copied on the internet probably don't surface on the normal net.

I can see positives and negatives for such a channel. The negatives tho seem higher then normal, but again all depends how, what, why you do it. Good luck.
 

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Most things of that nature copied on the internet probably don't surface on the normal net.

I can see positives and negatives for such a channel. The negatives tho seem higher then normal, but again all depends how, what, why you do it. Good luck.

I'd love to hear your positives and negatives if you had them. I'd like to do my best to address the negatives before I start.
 

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I'd love to hear your positives and negatives if you had them. I'd like to do my best to address the negatives before I start.

Negatives, would be a very large amount of creepers, an even larger spam of just people wanting to talk about only ab/dl things(including To Much Info topics) even after people want to switch topic.
Later video/images of you may pop-up around the internet at random. Also will be shadows of it around the internet forever tho not always visible from normal searches.

Stream its self could easily get weird as in creepy. //at least in its perspective to others.
People who don't understand ab/dl could attack thinking its some kind of pervert stream

I don't know list could go on, but I'm tired so its hard to think right now. XD
 

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Negatives, would be a very large amount of creepers, an even larger spam of just people wanting to talk about only ab/dl things(including To Much Info topics) even after people want to switch topic.
Later video/images of you may pop-up around the internet at random. Also will be shadows of it around the internet forever tho not always visible from normal searches.

Stream its self could easily get weird as in creepy. //at least in its perspective to others.
People who don't understand ab/dl could attack thinking its some kind of pervert stream

I don't know list could go on, but I'm tired so its hard to think right now. XD

This is why I'd have a semi-private and heavily moderated stream. I think that would fix a lot of this at least!
 

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You seem like you understand the dangers with your potential streaming, so personally if you just wanna hear if you think it would bring in some viewers around here and such.. I think it would. I could imagine scenarios of it even going quite well.

I feel bad playing the "warn you about stuff" game when so many other people already have, but like.. I mean. I just wanted to say that I think that you should be ready for the worst case scenario. That's all. Imagine the realistically worst thing that can happen from doing this and if you are ready for that outcome then I think you are ready.
 

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You seem like you understand the dangers with your potential streaming, so personally if you just wanna hear if you think it would bring in some viewers around here and such.. I think it would. I could imagine scenarios of it even going quite well.

I feel bad playing the "warn you about stuff" game when so many other people already have, but like.. I mean. I just wanted to say that I think that you should be ready for the worst case scenario. That's all. Imagine the realistically worst thing that can happen from doing this and if you are ready for that outcome then I think you are ready.

The worst case scenario would probably just be getting my ABDL identity linked to my Twitch identity, but most of my current viewers and followers wouldn't really care, and I can moderate that chat very well. I highly doubt anything would get linked to my real-life identity since most of that is under yet another name (my legal name, unfortunately).
 

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The worst case scenario would probably just be getting my ABDL identity linked to my Twitch identity, but most of my current viewers and followers wouldn't really care, and I can moderate that chat very well. I highly doubt anything would get linked to my real-life identity since most of that is under yet another name (my legal name, unfortunately).

That was pretty much the worst case scenerio I could think of too, to be honest. Someone on one of these sites recognizes you from your other stream and blabs. If you are ready for that then, I hope you have fun!
 
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That was pretty much the worst case scenerio I could think of too. Someone on one of these sites recognizes you from your other stream and blabs. If you are ready for that then, I hope you have fun!

Thanks! What I really need now is to figure out what video streaming service to use. Anyone know if UStream is at all decent?

EDIT: Hitbox seems to actually allow me to set my stream to private and to broadcast in AB wear, so I guess that's where we're going!
 
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I can always file DMCA claims on anyone who puts up pictures/videos without permission.

No, you cannot.

The problems that come when you put yourself out there like this don't come from your pictures getting posted once or twice in places that you can get them readily removed. They come from your pictures propagating forever as reposts on chan sites and tumblrs and what have you.

That is the risk you take when you put your image out there. That is how things live on the internet forever.



The general impression that I'm getting from this thread is that you're incorrectly assuming you have way more control over this than you do. There's a nonchalance here that suggests that the downside risks are being brushed over.
 

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I can always file DMCA claims on anyone who puts up pictures/videos without permission.

Yes, you can. As is your right, as long as you provide your full legal name.

It is also the right of whoever gets the DMCA claim to post all that legal information publicly. Lying about your identity on such a document isn't an option, as that would be perjury.

Point being, a DMCA claim isn't a tool to protect your privacy, it's a tool to protect your copyright.
 

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I am a tad worried about my brain when I posted my first second post. I feel I also should.. say that someone connecting your two identities is not the "worst" possible scenario. In the age of the internet, especially when doxxing is a thing.. it really is a fact that however unlikely something might seem and actually be.. something bad COULD happen.

When I posted the first post I expressed that I felt you should be ready for the worst case scenario and I still stand by that. However it's probably important to remember that the worst case scenario is actually "the fact that I am interested in this stuff is public knowledge to my peers and my image can be pretty easily found by those looking for it on the internet".

I think when I posted the second post, I was really not thinking. I really regret my second post now. I apologize for it and it's irresponsible tone. My mind was thinking, as possibly was your's KatelynG that this still can happen, but it probably won't. It's very true that the chances of your image actually getting that treatment of being circulated on places will very likely not happen. It might be even to think there is maybe even just a less then 1% chance that this could happen. Even if someone did screencap it and try to circulate it.. this is the internet right? My thought was that even if happened.. it would just get lost in the sea. Drowned out by all the higher quality content, the more embarrassing pictures, everything. That a low quality screencap never even probably stands a chance. Especially when it's just a little facecam in the window of a video game stream. My mind was wrapped up in the unlikeliness that all this could happen that I dismissed it. That's wrong.

It was irresponsible of me to feed into the idea that the worst possible case scenario was what we both said. Even if it is not likely, it is still possible. If your thought process is still dismissing the possibly as I was, rather then being aware of it and ready for it.. then I have to say I also do not recommend going through with this admittedly fun sounding experiment. :(

It makes me sad, because I can understand why someone would want to do this. I hate that so much of our lives is spend worrying about the fear of what could happen, that things cannot be easy. I myself have wanted to get involved in livestreaming and Let's Play things for so long but have struggled with the fact that I am a non-passing trans girl not willing to pretend to be something I'm not. That's life though, and I should have known better. I had strangers find out about my AB/DL interests because of things I've done in the past even though I was sure no one would ever find the information. This really is one of these times where it's especially important to be super cautious. I was blinded because I really wish it could just be as simple as.. "you want to do this, it won't hurt anyone and it will be lots of fun". Please do not let this happen to you.

Please understand and be ready for the risks, all of them.. even the ones that don't seem likely.
 

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One worst case I can think of is someone like Tosh.0 or another compilation of videos picks it up to make fun of. //private isn't always private.
Another worst case would be a meme or some other kind of img being generated.

//also tho you can ban creepers / hide them from view. if one finds it its easy for them to hack back to find you even if you're proxied.
 

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Thanks for the input and warnings, everyone! If I go through with this, I'll definitely make sure I have a plan to protect my privacy and am ready to deal with things becoming public. Basically all of my close friends already know I'm involved in ABDL stuff, so my main worry would more likely be with relatives and (maybe, but unlikely) future employers, although I doubt the average employer is going to bother looking for this unless it becomes viral somehow.

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One worst case I can think of is someone like Tosh.0 or another compilation of videos picks it up to make fun of. //private isn't always private.
Another worst case would be a meme or some other kind of img being generated.

//also tho you can ban creepers / hide them from view. if one finds it its easy for them to hack back to find you even if you're proxied.

With the video site I'd be using, that would be legally actionable. A meme would probably be the worst, although I'm not sure that kind of meme would catch on.

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No, you cannot.

The problems that come when you put yourself out there like this don't come from your pictures getting posted once or twice in places that you can get them readily removed. They come from your pictures propagating forever as reposts on chan sites and tumblrs and what have you.

That is the risk you take when you put your image out there. That is how things live on the internet forever.



The general impression that I'm getting from this thread is that you're incorrectly assuming you have way more control over this than you do. There's a nonchalance here that suggests that the downside risks are being brushed over.

I understand that a DMCA request would only encourage the Streisand effect and that if someone really wants something out there, it will happen. I also understand that anyone could find it and propagate in on whatever chan sites/message boards. I know the potential consequences, but I also feel that the risk of these consequences can be largely mitigated if I take adequate precautions. Hitbox, for example, has a setting that only allows people to find your channel/see you're streaming if they have a direct link.

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I've been attempting to look up cases of discrimination against people involved in porn, since although this wouldn't be porn, it's technically kink-related video, and I haven't been able to find anything except stuff involving education, which I don't plan to touch. I kinda feel like if something happened that would actively hurt my life, it would have to be a landmark case of some sort since there doesn't seem to be any sort of precedent. Besides, the hundreds of AB camgirls don't seem to have too many issues, and they're a lot more out there than I am.

I really don't want to be dismissive of the risks. I just have a hard time believing that with proper precautions there's much chance of this negatively affecting my quality of living. I can deal with an awkward conversation with my parents; I've had plenty of those already. My friends are definitely no worry at all. My main worry would definitely be issues with housing and workplace stuff, and living in the Seattle area seems to negate the housing one, leaving workplace discrimination, which I've found little-to-no evidence of happening in the past.

Please, if someone has good evidence to go against the idea of me doing this, present it. I would really like to be aware of my risks. If Riley Kilo, an enormously popular AB model as well as porn star, has no issues, I don't know how in the world I would.
 

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With the video site I'd be using, that would be legally actionable. A meme would probably be the worst, although I'm not sure that kind of meme would catch on.

In most cases you can't tell when a hacker does something, unless they mess up or your better then them.

As far as memes I don't know if one exist yet for grow up already, or something along those lines
 

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In most cases you can't tell when a hacker does something, unless they mess up or your better then them.

As far as memes I don't know if one exist yet for grow up already, or something along those lines

Not talking about hacking; I mean Tosh.0-type shows. Tosh wouldn't be able to do anything with my footage (and also, the fact that the webcam is only a small portion of my screen would make it difficult for their format).

And tracing my IP isn't gonna do much without other personal info. Sure, they can tell I have Comcast and live somewhere in x area, but that describes thousands. The worst they could really do with my address is SWAT me, and if I'm co-operative with the police, that's mainly a minor inconvenience, especially since I've already talked with the FBI about being a potential SWATting target.
 

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Not talking about hacking; I mean Tosh.0-type shows. Tosh wouldn't be able to do anything with my footage (and also, the fact that the webcam is only a small portion of my screen would make it difficult for their format).

And tracing my IP isn't gonna do much without other personal info. Sure, they can tell I have Comcast and live somewhere in x area, but that describes thousands. The worst they could really do with my address is SWAT me, and if I'm co-operative with the police, that's mainly a minor inconvenience, especially since I've already talked with the FBI about being a potential SWATting target.

Yea tosh.0 I think has to contact you to play it // not fully sure how that works I assume the ToS of the site you upload it to would effect that. I think some sites when you upload something nearly make it open source.

But random youtube compilations don't seem to care about laws and just take vids down on request.

As for hacking I guess it depends on their skill and yours. They can get alot more then just your IP.
 

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Yea tosh.0 I think has to contact you to play it // not fully sure how that works I assume the ToS of the site you upload it to would effect that. I think some sites when you upload something nearly make it open source.

But random youtube compilations don't seem to care about laws and just take vids down on request.

As for hacking I guess it depends on their skill and yours. They can get alot more then just your IP.

They can't get that much unless there's a hell of an exploit in something I'm running. Hacking a personal computer is a very different task than hacking a web server. For example, they can't read files off of my PC unless there's an exploit specifically related to that. Realistically, unless there's a huge exploit in my browser and they get me to visit a site that exploits it, the most they can get is router logs - not exactly something useful.
 
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