AB sitter prices make no sense

[ABCoder]

please explain to me how come AB sitters charge over 200$ an hour when actual sitters charge 15$?
I mean AB sitting (non sexual) is much less work

I just don't get it.

 

[BabyTheleste]

Not sure I’d agree it’s much less work. Most providing AB services have invested heavily in their nursery and AB paraphernalia, and the session will involve lots of different aspects to give the AB the experience they want. Besides, it’s a very niche interest, not many women want to do it, owing to the perceived stigma of being involved in something which is very misunderstood, so they can charge accordingly, as providers of BDSM services do.

 

[chiaochai]

i am inclined to say the same thing as babytheleste. it is sex work and is priced as such.

 

[messydiaper]

You could buck the trend by offering your own adult babysitting service that charges $15 an hour.

 

[Nowididit]

You could buck the trend by offering your own adult babysitting service that charges $15 an hour.

Poopy diaper changes included. Lol...guaranteed after a full on AB messy diaper change that price would increase.

 

[ORBaby]

It comes down to supply and demand, lots of ABs very few sitters.

 

[Jorelaxed]

almost attorney prices

 

[SparkyDog]

please explain to me how come AB sitters charge over 200$ an hour when actual sitters charge 15$?
I mean AB sitting (non sexual) is much less work
I just don't get it

Supply & Demand
Lots of demand very little supply
hence more $

 

[LePew]

First of all, I think this is a misrepresentation of the costs. No one charges $15 for a babysitting session, it’s more like $15/hr, $15/2hr at best and that’s if you hire a teen. No one is charging $200 per hour for AB sitting, it’s probably $200 for 2, 3, 4 hours right? So let’s not get carried away by making these distorted comparisons.

Let’s say it really comes $50-$75 per hour for AB sitting (correct me if I’m wrong). This is highly specialized work, surely you can’t compare this to paying a teen $12/hr for babysitting a 2yo.

You’re paying for niche work, your paying for highly specialized experience, you’re paying for a luxury service.

 

[Cottontail]

Supply and demand, as others have said.

Also, though it pains me to say this: "Babysitting," when it involves indulgence of a fetish (if it does), likely constitutes illegal sex work. We've recently seen ABDLs arrested and prosecuted for human trafficking for involving ordinary babysitters/carers in their fetishes. (For example.) I think we can all agree that what these people did was bad, but there's also an important takeaway: The law considers caring for us to be sex work. We've lately seen ABDL shops labeled as sex shops too. Pause and connect the dots. Sexual services are not legal trade in most US jurisdictions and are therefore "black market" services with correspondingly high prices.

I'm not trying to express an opinion here, but rather share some observations. Our desires put us in a hard place.

 

[Tenawearer]

Basically it's sex work, whether there is sex or not. As already said above it's a small, niche market and the sitters can ask what they like.

 

[sbmccue]

The law considers caring for us to be sex work. We've lately seen ABDL shops labeled as sex shops too. Pause and connect the dots.

While I have enormous respect for Cottontail, this comment misses the mark: Fraud and deception are almost always illegal. The case cited in this post involved both, several times repeated.

Basically it's sex work, whether there is sex or not. As already said above it's a small, niche market and the sitters can ask what they like.

Again, this is a shortsighted comment. I've never had a babysitter engage in a sex act with me, and never intend to. I would argue that caring for someone in a nursing home isn't sex work, but in these situations, the care is medically necessary. If caring for an AB is suddenly sex work, it's only sex work because there's typically not a legitimate medical need for the care.

However, I can't find anyplace in the United States in which soliciting such care is against the law.

If you're upfront and honest about the care you need, and there's no sexual component involved, being cared for as an AB isn't illegal. I know: I've consulted attorneys and searched the law without a viable result. Adult babysitting is a lot easier for the typical CNA or LVN than their regular work, and many will jump at the chance to babysit for $50 an hour or so, which I don't consider outrageous. Unfortunately, for many ABs, gathering up the courage to approach a healthcare professional for care seems flatly impossible.

Since 1985, I've had 20 women babysit me. Most were healthcare workers. Not a single one has ever told me that they felt 'used' or 'trapped' into the situation, and most have been thankful for the income stream and have remained close friends over the ensuing years. As I wrote in Sitter Search, the approach is the critical element. The case Cottontail cites points to this fact; you cannot disguise what you want or why you want it.

If you want the care for free, good luck! I decided long ago that if I had to be an infantilist – and I've made no secret that I view my infantilism as a curse rather than something I chose – I'd be an activist infantilist and find someone to care for me on an occasional basis. I've found myself unwilling and unable to share my life with unfilled AB desires.

 

[Tenawearer]

While I have enormous respect for Cottontail, this comment misses the mark: Fraud and deception are almost always illegal. The case cited in this post involved both, several times repeated.


Again, this is a shortsighted comment. I've never had a babysitter engage in a sex act with me, and never intend to. I would argue that caring for someone in a nursing home isn't sex work, but in these situations, the care is medically necessary. If caring for an AB is suddenly sex work, it's only sex work because there's typically not a legitimate medical need for the care.

However, I can't find anyplace in the United States in which soliciting such care is against the law.

If you're upfront and honest about the care you need, and there's no sexual component involved, being cared for as an AB isn't illegal. I know: I've consulted attorneys and searched the law without a viable result. Adult babysitting is a lot easier for the typical CNA or LVN than their regular work, and many will jump at the chance to babysit for $50 an hour or so, which I don't consider outrageous. Unfortunately, for many ABs, gathering up the courage to approach a healthcare professional for care seems flatly impossible.

Since 1985, I've had 20 women babysit me. Most were healthcare workers. Not a single one has ever told me that they felt 'used' or 'trapped' into the situation, and most have been thankful for the income stream and have remained close friends over the ensuing years. As I wrote in Sitter Search, the approach is the critical element. The case Cottontail cites points to this fact; you cannot disguise what you want or why you want it.

If you want the care for free, good luck! I decided long ago that if I had to be an infantilist – and I've made no secret that I view my infantilism as a curse rather than something I chose – I'd be an activist infantilist and find someone to care for me on an occasional basis. I've found myself unwilling and unable to share my life with unfilled AB desires.

Sitting is not illegal in the Netherlands, dito a Dominatrix or a sex worker. The sitters and doms can ask what they like as they offer services to a niche market.

 

[Cottontail]

Fraud and deception are almost always illegal. The case cited in this post involved both, several times repeated.

No doubt, and I expect the vast, vast majority of us who look for babysitter/mommy services are 100% forthcoming about our intentions. The case I referenced is concerning though because while fraud and deception were absolutely involved, he wasn't charged with those things. He was charged with sex crimes. Even if one's intentions are wholly unrelated to sex, and even if one approaches things openly and honestly, it's a worrisome precedent to have out there. I think it could successfully be argued in court that these services are a form of psychotherapy or simply nonsexual diversion for those of us with little sides, but the process of getting there could still be terribly painful for the individuals involved.

It's just a tricky place we're in, when for so many of us the sexual and nonsexual components of this stuff are blurred together. In our own heads and hearts we can know which parts are controlling our actions and defining our enjoyment. Convincing other people is another matter.

Anyway, your experiences are encouraging and I apologize if I seemed to be leveling some sort of accusation. As "one of us," I implicitly accept that your intentions were of a nonsexual nature. We're a misunderstood group though, and that's a perilous thing, whether we conduct ourselves with integrity or not.

 

[enigmatic]

Supply and demand, as others have said.

Also, though it pains me to say this: "Babysitting," when it involves indulgence of a fetish (if it does), likely constitutes illegal sex work. We've recently seen ABDLs arrested and prosecuted for human trafficking for involving ordinary babysitters/carers in their fetishes. (For example.) I think we can all agree that what these people did was bad, but there's also an important takeaway: The law considers caring for us to be sex work. We've lately seen ABDL shops labeled as sex shops too. Pause and connect the dots. Sexual services are not legal trade in most US jurisdictions and are therefore "black market" services with correspondingly high prices.

I'm not trying to express an opinion here, but rather share some observations. Our desires put us in a hard place.

Rest assured, the case you are referring to actually doesn't have anything to do with sex or diapers. The Louisiana human trafficking law is quite broad. It includes fraudulently obtaining labor or services, which is exactly what this young man did.

Louisiana Laws - Louisiana State Legislature

legis.la.gov

 

[Cottontail]

Rest assured, the case you are referring to actually doesn't have anything to do with sex or diapers. The Louisiana human trafficking law is quite broad. It includes fraudulently obtaining labor or services, which is exactly what this young man did.

Thanks, @enigmatic. This is very useful context. Admittedly I was considering the case with a different definition in mind. I'll give it another read now that I'm better equipped.

 

[Tetra]

My sitter / aide makes $22 hour , her job feeding,choking prevention ,clothing , medications , changing, laundry, diapers , catheter”driving”.
It’s not a hard job and many times there’s lots of freetime where everything is done at the moment. Good sitters who know you and trust ( she knows how to diaper me, not a “generic” adult diaper change) are the best thing since before sliced bread was a thing .

 

[Ashton84]

While I have enormous respect for Cottontail, this comment misses the mark: Fraud and deception are almost always illegal. The case cited in this post involved both, several times repeated.


Again, this is a shortsighted comment. I've never had a babysitter engage in a sex act with me, and never intend to. I would argue that caring for someone in a nursing home isn't sex work, but in these situations, the care is medically necessary. If caring for an AB is suddenly sex work, it's only sex work because there's typically not a legitimate medical need for the care.

However, I can't find anyplace in the United States in which soliciting such care is against the law.

If you're upfront and honest about the care you need, and there's no sexual component involved, being cared for as an AB isn't illegal. I know: I've consulted attorneys and searched the law without a viable result. Adult babysitting is a lot easier for the typical CNA or LVN than their regular work, and many will jump at the chance to babysit for $50 an hour or so, which I don't consider outrageous. Unfortunately, for many ABs, gathering up the courage to approach a healthcare professional for care seems flatly impossible.

Since 1985, I've had 20 women babysit me. Most were healthcare workers. Not a single one has ever told me that they felt 'used' or 'trapped' into the situation, and most have been thankful for the income stream and have remained close friends over the ensuing years. As I wrote in Sitter Search, the approach is the critical element. The case Cottontail cites points to this fact; you cannot disguise what you want or why you want it.

If you want the care for free, good luck! I decided long ago that if I had to be an infantilist – and I've made no secret that I view my infantilism as a curse rather than something I chose – I'd be an activist infantilist and find someone to care for me on an occasional basis. I've found myself unwilling and unable to share my life with unfilled AB desires.

Well said.

 

[chiaochai]

honestly this just comes off as entitled. they can charge whatever they want to. if you dont think the price is fair take your business elsewhere.

 

[Edgewater]

My sitter / aide makes $22 hour , her job feeding,choking prevention ,clothing , medications , changing, laundry, diapers , catheter”driving”.
It’s not a hard job and many times there’s lots of freetime where everything is done at the moment. Good sitters who know you and trust ( she knows how to diaper me, not a “generic” adult diaper change) are the best thing since before sliced bread was a thing .

As so well coved above, when the titles are changed, in this case: IC /disabilities support, the illegalities and costs change extensively.
I am in no way suggesting to lie about the nature only pointing out that many of us that are 24/7, IC and whether Post Surgical or defined disabilities commonly have or obtain such services.

I do not, nor do I suggest becoming 24 /7, IC as there are huge downsides; i.e. high costs and there is never a few hours, a day, a even a week off! If you can choose, please do for as long as you medically can!