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You know, it's incredible that this is supposed to be the mature place to discuss "mature" things that aren't related to the size of your last bowel movement, or how many diapers it takes to be satisfied with life.

What is true is that I am finding an incredible amount of political bias, and squelching of voices, in here, that sort of proves that there's less maturity here than the Forum title might suggest.

You know, I posted a message about the Q phenomenon, and got back mostly think veiled responses about those kooks in 4-chan, etc. And, of course, strangely enough, that thread finds itself closed preMATUREly. Who? Why?

I post a message about preMATUREly closed threads, and I get back a few responses about reasons to find threads closed, NONE of which apply, and then that thread is closed preMATUREly. Who? Why? The question WAS NOT answered, as one brilliant mind suggested.

Then I post a thread about why ANY thread gets closed preMATUREly, using my initial thread as an example, and I get messages back purporting to understand my initial intent of that thread, while most of the responders we're befuddled with the original message.

I find it incredible, in a place where we're all supposed to be SO UNDERSTANDING about each other's choices, wet/dry, cloth/disposable, poop/no-poop, plastic/paper, and on and on, that there's a complete lack of understanding of what's actually going on in your country, in reality, in a MATURE fashion, not dictated by TDS, and pure hatred for all that made this country the best on the Earth. Freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of the press (ask Alex Jones about that one....).

You, THE FIGURATIVE, watch your mainstream fake news media outlets, each puppeting & parroting their daily "news" (spoon fed corporate) narratives, like an echo chamber of idiots, spewing hatred & vomit, socialist, Marxist, and communist, as well, all learned in the liberal lunacy of our modern day colleges & universities, AND nobody makes the time or effort to check the alternative? That is what the original post was about. Not the damn sky-falling mentality of the liberal left lunacy, but, rather, the underground churning of progress, right underfoot. Not fake news agencies filling THE FIGURATIVE YOU with their fake stories, their phony unnamed sources, and their pure crap, meant to subvert a duly elected PRESIDENT from performing his duties, as THE CONSTITUTION mandates. It has bled it's way in here, too, remarkably. Censorship, lack of understanding, hatred, etc. All the hallmarks of a failed state. And, no, that's not to say all messages by all people here stem from the same pathos, but this MATURE forum is far from mature, and some of those with their finger on the button are far from mature, as well. That's exactly why I said I'M LOVIN' IT, in the original post. It's like watching a three-ring circus, if you've ever been to one. So much going on to entertain you, the figurative. So much to kick & stomp over! It is TDS. Those who are living it, should OWN IT. Those of us peeking behind the curtain of the deep state shadow government, the alphabet intelligence agencies, even the alphabet tech Giants, can see this for what it really is. DO NOT BE SHOCKED by what you learn in the near future. You've been lied to. You fell for it, hook, line & sinker. Things are going to be coming soon that will rock the very ground you stand on. Laugh it off! Those crazy conspiracy theories...

I'm loving it?

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THINLY veiled! GD autocorrect!
 

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You, THE FIGURATIVE, watch your mainstream fake news media outlets, each puppeting & parroting their daily "news" (spoon fed corporate) narratives, like an echo chamber of idiots, spewing hatred & vomit, socialist, Marxist, and communist, as well, all learned in the liberal lunacy of our modern day colleges & universities, AND nobody makes the time or effort to check the alternative? That is what the original post was about. Not the damn sky-falling mentality of the liberal left lunacy, but, rather, the underground churning of progress, right underfoot. Not fake news agencies filling THE FIGURATIVE YOU with their fake stories, their phony unnamed sources, and their pure crap, meant to subvert a duly elected PRESIDENT from performing his duties, as THE CONSTITUTION mandates. It has bled it's way in here, too, remarkably. Censorship, lack of understanding, hatred, etc. All the hallmarks of a failed state. And, no, that's not to say all messages by all people here stem from the same pathos, but this MATURE forum is far from mature, and some of those with their finger on the button are far from mature, as well. That's exactly why I said I'M LOVIN' IT, in the original post. It's like watching a three-ring circus, if you've ever been to one. So much going on to entertain you, the figurative. So much to kick & stomp over! It is TDS. Those who are living it, should OWN IT. Those of us peeking behind the curtain of the deep state shadow government, the alphabet intelligence agencies, even the alphabet tech Giants, can see this for what it really is. DO NOT BE SHOCKED by what you learn in the near future. You've been lied to. You fell for it, hook, line & sinker. Things are going to be coming soon that will rock the very ground you stand on. Laugh it off! Those crazy conspiracy theories...
It's that rhetoric right there that makes the whole thing a moot point. People aren't willing to actually have a back and forth. You started off fine, and I was following until you started screaming about 'mainstream fake news media' (Why are they fake? WHO specifically are you talking about? What makes you believe such a thing? Give me some damned facts, sir! I need more to go on than your say-so or anyone elses!). And then you immediately follow with 'liberal left lunacy'? How do you know that you might not actually agree with them on some points? Have you ever tried? Tried actually going to 'the other side' and seeing what they're really talking about? Or are you just believing the fake 'underground' media without doing your own research?

In fact, if you were truly interested in the real goings on, it shouldn't matter if the relevant facts and information are coming from the left OR right, take them all, put them together and start formulating an idea of what the actual truth might be. Because BOTH sides have a terrible tendency to 'spin' anything.

Is it possibly that you yourself are falling into a Fascist (Marxist, whatever the heck you want to refer to it as) trap? Only believing what you are told is the truth? Have you done any research other than just reading their talking points? Do you have named sources to support this? (If so, I would love to read them and pick at them to see if they stand up to scrutiny! It IS possible to change my mind, but it's difficult because I require concrete proof and not just whisperings in the dark.)

That's what I said in your previous post, the burden of proof is upon you since you are the one making the claims. Not the people reading them who can't quite agree with something that's quite thin and wispy like a conspiracy theory.
 

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I mean, if you actually did your own research...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon?wprov=sfti1

And knowing you, you’ll say “WIKIPEDIA ISNT A PROPER SOURCE. ITS FAKE NEWS. DO YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERWEBZ”

To which I respond with these..................

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-45040614

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/qanon

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/29/billboards-promoting-4chan-conspiracy-theory/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailydot.com/layer8/who-is-q-anon/


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Part of the reason why your threads get closed is because you can’t provide mature and/or coherent responses.

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What is true is that I am finding an incredible amount of political bias, and squelching of voices, in here, that sort of proves that there's less maturity here than the Forum title might suggest.
Odd, me too.

You, THE FIGURATIVE, watch your mainstream fake news media outlets, each puppeting & parroting their daily "news" (spoon fed corporate) narratives, like an echo chamber of idiots, spewing hatred & vomit, socialist, Marxist, and communist, as well, all learned in the liberal lunacy of our modern day colleges & universities, AND nobody makes the time or effort to check the alternative? That is what the original post was about. Not the damn sky-falling mentality of the liberal left lunacy, but, rather, the underground churning of progress, right underfoot. Not fake news agencies filling THE FIGURATIVE YOU with their fake stories, their phony unnamed sources, and their pure crap, meant to subvert a duly elected PRESIDENT from performing his duties, as THE CONSTITUTION mandates. It has bled it's way in here, too, remarkably. Censorship, lack of understanding, hatred, etc. All the hallmarks of a failed state. And, no, that's not to say all messages by all people here stem from the same pathos, but this MATURE forum is far from mature, and some of those with their finger on the button are far from mature, as well. That's exactly why I said I'M LOVIN' IT, in the original post. It's like watching a three-ring circus, if you've ever been to one. So much going on to entertain you, the figurative. So much to kick & stomp over! It is TDS. Those who are living it, should OWN IT. Those of us peeking behind the curtain of the deep state shadow government, the alphabet intelligence agencies, even the alphabet tech Giants, can see this for what it really is. DO NOT BE SHOCKED by what you learn in the near future. You've been lied to. You fell for it, hook, line & sinker. Things are going to be coming soon that will rock the very ground you stand on. Laugh it off! Those crazy conspiracy theories...
Looks like you're the only objective rational one here.
 
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"Is it possibly that you yourself are falling into a Fascist (Marxist, whatever the heck you want to refer to it as) trap? Only believing what you are told is the truth? Have you done any research other than just reading their talking points? Do you have named sources to support this? (If so, I would love to read them and pick at them to see if they stand up to scrutiny! It IS possible to change my mind, but it's difficult because I require concrete proof and not just whisperings in the dark.)"


You know, the difference between me and most people is that I actually do have the answers. I just don't have the time to teach everyone else... You need to do your own research to find the truth. It's way bigger than a tweet-sized statement, and it goes deeper then you could possibly believe. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE, if I can borrow from X-Files, without implying that there are aliens living among us.

I drive for a living. What do you do? (Not meaning to imply anything here...). Driving gives me at least a dozen hours, each and every day, to listen to hundreds of voices, from all walks. Yes, fake news... CNN editing video pieces to change the narrative. Yes, fake news... Are YOU really not aware of the parroting the fake news media puts forth each and every day, when it comes to politics? If you watch any of them, you're very likely already indoctrinated. Project Veritas? Levin? Joe Pags? Alex? PrayingMedic? Deceptionbytes? Lionel? There's way to many to name, BUT, if you ask me what news I do watch, when I am home, and I turn on news, it would be OAN, One American News network. Fox has some to offer, but that content is dwindling with the likes of Shemp Smith, one of the last Fox stooges.

And, you know, I'm not a republican, at heart. They're just as guilty as democrats. I'd say I'm conservative, only because I like the freedoms given to me by God, as well as those espoused in the amendments. I believe in the sanctity of the life, on the abortion side of things. Girls don't grow penises! I also believe in the death penalty, as a person makes a choice to commit crime, or not. I believe in your right to choose, as long as you (the figurative) choose BEFORE a life is created. I believe in my country, and what it stands for. I fought for it, and I proudly display it! I've lived outside the US, and all anybody talked about what "the real world", back in the US. Why is everyone so fired up about coming here that they'll risk life or limb, it send their daughters venturing through deserts with condoms stuffed in their pockets.

I'm a Patriot. I was smart enough to shut up when the people elected their first mulatto president, but, oh, weren't they surprised? Think the #walkaway movement is about Trump??? Have you listened?

We've got a great thing in this country, but our freedoms CAN BE used against us, by allowing jihadisto filter through our borders, along with those girls with pockets stuffed. We have freedom of speech, but what happened to that on the Berkeley campus, when Milo wanted to speak? What about when Ann Coulter wanted to speak? Who had the socks & locks? Who wore masks? Who kept Stephan Molineaux (sp?) and Lauren from speaking in New Zealand? Who are these people who want to shut down free speech around the world? What exactly did Tommy Robinson do to get tossed into a prison full of Muslim extremists?

No, I can't do anyone else's homework, but, THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE...

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Can I go to Wikipedia and make edits? Should I trust Snopes version of the truth? Politifact? Anderson Cooper, with CIA leanings, and a Vanderbilt heritage? Who really bring YOU the truth?
 

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You know, the difference between me and most people is that I actually do have the answers. I just don't have the time to teach everyone else... I drive for a living. What do you do? (Not meaning to imply anything here...). Driving gives me at least a dozen hours, each and every day, to listen to hundreds of voices, from all walks. I'm a Patriot. I was smart enough to shut up when the people elected their first mulatto president
I had to break it to you, but America is full of racist redneck blue collar workers who think they are smarter than everyone else. Archie Bunker was a caricature of this forty years ago. The smarty pants liberals call it Dunning-Kruger Effect if you care to look it up.

But keep listening to all those folks who tell you how smart you are that you've figured it all out with them, unlike all the other sheeple. It's what every cult does, because it works.
 
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...sorry, I missed one. The BBC??? Should I trust them? Who brought us the phony dossier? Which government does he represent? Which spy agency? Why is it pertinent? Did the five I's have anything to do with trying to subvert our US election? Did the Russian government? Who brought the dossier to the FBI? and: he shall remain nameless. It goes on and on... Who decided to subvert the process of interviewing a Supreme Court candidate? and: used to be a nasty doll that killed people.

The truth is out there, even if you don't like it.

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...and = ANSwer

Thank autocorrect, and the virtual lack of mobile editing...

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"Part of the reason why your threads get closed is because you can’t provide mature and/or coherent responses. "

From the mouths of babes...

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I had to break it to you, but America is full of racist redneck blue collar workers who think they are smarter than everyone else. Archie Bunker was a caricature of this forty years ago. The smarty pants liberals call it Dunning-Kruger Effect if you care to look it up.

But keep listening to all those folks who tell you how smart you are that you've figured it all out with them, unlike all the other sheeple. It's what every cult does, because it works.
Where did you get that piece of intellect? Full of redneck racists... You guys floor me!

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"But keep listening to all those folks who tell you how smart you are that you've figured it all out with them, unlike all the other sheeple. It's what every cult does, because it works."

Incredibly, no one tells me how smart I am, as evidenced here. And, no, you can't borrow sheeple, and toss it on the right. It belongs in the domain of the less informed ignoramuses out there. (Look it up)
 

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This thread is a joke. The Mature Topics section is not for inane conspiracy stuff or right wing concern trolling or for general nonsense. It is for adults with intellect to discuss meaningful topics. Qanon is not a meaningful topic.
 

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I do not need you to do MY homework as I have demonstrated in previous threads I am fully capable of doing my own independent research without needing to rely on listening solely to other peoples biased opinions...I want you to do your own. Otherwise you are simply a troll and thusly unworthy of my further attention.

As for what I do...it's quite similar to your own job. I drive a vehicle that keeps me busy enough that I don't have time to space out at the wheel.

I rely on thinking. Not just being a sponge for other peoples' opinions.

Therefore I rate this thread and you as Obvious Troll Material.
 

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You know, the difference between me and most people is that I actually do have the answers. I just don't have the time to teach everyone else... You need to do your own research to find the truth.
Sweet Martha Mary May, what? You've got to realize how silly this sounds, right?

Literally everyone thinks they're right. Otherwise, why would you keep a viewpoint? On the flipside, many are willing to consider they may be wrong, but nobody is going to just take your word for it, or spend eternity trying to find proof you're right. What actually facilitates debate and persuasion is providing evidence yourself. If you have it, your choices are to either present it, or... say this I guess. But this looks silly, like you have nothing other than your say so. Not to mention how conceited it sounds to say that you are different than, "most people." Everyone thinks what they think for a reason. Respecting that is a key part of making any headway in convincing anyone of anything.
 

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"Tin Foil Hat"
(feat. Donald Fagen)

He's coming down the escalator
With a girl from east of here
He wants to make the country greater
We've got nothing left to fear

Because the man in the tin foil hat
Is sitting on the throne tonight
It kinda feels like a coup d'etat
But it's gonna be great, tremendous, amazing and all that

'Cause the man in the tin foil hat
Is tweeting like a teenage girl
He puts the Pluto in plutocrat
But it's gonna be a huge huge huge new world

He hasn't got the time for losers
Unless they do as he commands
He's writing checks to his accusers
With those tiny little hands

Because the man in the tin foil hat
Is sitting on the throne tonight
It kinda feels like a coup d'etat
But it's gonna be a huge huge huge new world

'Cause the man in the tin foil hat
Is gonna drain the swamp tonight
And fill it up with alternative facts
And it's gonna be great, tremendous, amazing and all that

'Cause the man in the tin foil hat
(He's coming down the escalator)
Is tweeting like a teenage girl
(With a girl from east of here)
He puts the Pluto in plutocrat
(He wants to make the country greater)
Huge huge huge new world
(We've got nothing left to fear)

Because the man in the tin foil hat
(He hasn't got the time for losers)
Is sitting on the throne tonight
(Unless they do as he commands)
It kinda feels like a coup d'etat
(He's writing checks to his accusers)
And it's gonna be great, tremendous, amazing and all that
 

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Jamieboy said:
You know, the difference between me and most people is that I actually do have the answers.
You are allowed to think that.
You are allowed to have opinions the moderation team disagrees with.
You are allowed to think we are wrong, and to express that.

I want to make it absolutely, crystal clear that this thread is not being closed because of your political beliefs, or my political beliefs, or because you expressed your political beliefs. Neither were any of your other threads.

Here is the problem. You have political views, you expect others to accept them as axiomatic, you refuse to explain why you hold those views (do your research isn't an explanation) and you get upset when people refuse to accept your views as correct. You are not acting in a mature manner.

This is a forum for discussion, you don't seem inclined to discuss. Your thread(s) aren't conductive to a discussion. You're just stating your views without leaving any room to discuss anything. That's fine for a blog, but it's just not acceptable as the starting point for a serious discussion.

As to why your threads specifically always end up getting closed (we admittedly don't take action on every thread that breaks our rules because we don't read everything), it isn't because we go out of our way to keep an eye on you. It's because multiple people report them.

Normally we don't post that kind of notice publicly, but in this case I think it's appropriate to explain our reasoning publicly since the thread is very much about our moderation, at least partially.
 
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