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    Looking for the best diaper for a heavy wetting, back sleeping male. I've tried almost everything, but it seems like even the high end diapers leak out the crotch before the back is wet. The one exception I've found is the Northshore Supreme, but on really heavy wetting nights, even they don't hold enough. I've tried boosters, but they seem to make the leaks even worse. Any ideas, other than cloth?

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    Well, you are already using the padding that I would recommend. There is no other product out there that wicks as evenly, as well, or holds under pressure like the NorthShore Supremes. The use of boosters can cause leaking in three ways in my experience:

    1) The thickness of the booster either before or after saturation can greatly diminish the effect of standing leak guards. They can actually neutralize them completely if they are too thick or the leak guards to short.
    2) Booster do not tend to cope with flooding AT ALL. If you are urinating too much too quickly you will overwhelm the absorption rate of just about any padding, but especially high SAP diapers (top shelf brands) and boosters.
    3) Simply time to change. It may be that you have underestimated the amount of urine released over time and have finally reached the limit of your products.

    To try and be of more help, some more information could be useful. Does "heavy wetting" mean that you are releasing a filled to bursting bladder suddenly? Or do you mean that you have a higher volume void than what most would consider normal? Do you wet incrementally in fast spurts, leak constantly over time, or full releases? Is the product the right size for you? Are you at the upper or lower extreme in the size range for your diaper? Is your booster pad too wide, long, or thick for your diaper? Are you applying the diaper correctly ensuring a good fit (NorthShores specifically have an application instruction you won't find on any other diaper, and it makes a HUGE difference in their product)? If you are using this product for sleep and are a bedwetter, are you making sure the product is dry before going to bed?

    If you could shed some more light on the actual usage and corresponding points of failure, we might be able to zero in on a solution for ya!

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    Maybe try doubling up and cutting the inner diaper. Towels. Plastic pants might work if it's a weak point in the diaper's crotch tightness.

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    Is restricting his movement out of the question?

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    More info...

    It's for bedwetting/incontinence. Changed right before bedtime.

    On large volume of fluid intake for medical reasons. I.e. can't change timing or amount of fluid intake to lessen volume overnight.

    Flooding, not small amounts over time.

    I am familiar with how diapers should fit, and they fit fine...except for dry 24/7...their large sizing doesn't work well. And, I know to stretch and fold NorthShores.

    I've tried various sizes of boosters, with no luck. Probably due to the flooding/leakguard problem.

    I've tried double diapering, including poking holes in the inner diaper. I can get closer to a solution this way, but still haven't found the right combo, especially one that doesn't cost $5-$6 per night.

    I always use a bedpad, which, of course, protects the bed but doesn't prevent being covered in urine.



    Something like a NorthShore Supreme which held even more would be perfect. I'm trying to avoid getting up in the middle of the night to change and disrupting sleep.

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    Have you tried the ABU Space diaper? They also now have a plain white version of it called the Simple. It's probably the most absorbent diaper on the market today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndresMommy View Post
    More info...

    It's for bedwetting/incontinence. Changed right before bedtime.

    Flooding, not small amounts over time.

    I've tried various sizes of boosters, with no luck. Probably due to the flooding/leakguard problem.

    I've tried double diapering, including poking holes in the inner diaper. I can get closer to a solution this way, but still haven't found the right combo, especially one that doesn't cost $5-$6 per night.

    Something like a NorthShore Supreme which held even more would be perfect. I'm trying to avoid getting up in the middle of the night to change and disrupting sleep.
    Well my friend you have two things going against you; large volumes and instantaneous full void, they are on opposite ends of the diaper spectrum. Disposables, by a vast majority, fall into two categories of performance based on padding makeup. Fast absorption, and large volume absorption. The more your diaper can hold over long periods the less capable it is with a large volume void or flooding. Boosters generally don't help with flooding either as they too are made for volume not speed. Your boosters are going to be the weak point in your combo as a flood will flow across the surface like a river with very little being absorbed and the extra height of the booster nullifying or weakening the standing leak guards capabilities.

    Your selection of NorthShores is actually one of the best diapers out there as far as performance by volume AND speed...you just need more speed. A diaper with little to no SAP absorbs liquid MUCH faster, those diapers are usually MUCH cheaper as well and don't hold nearly as much as your NorthShore will. I do have an idea that may seem counter intuitive at first, but I urge you to consider it and even try it out.

    The NorthShore provides adequate protection if given enough time but it's not fast enough. Cost is a consideration, which is good because this solution is cheap. You should double diaper. But NOT with another NorthShore or ANY high end diaper. You need to double up with a STORE BRAND as your base diaper, Certainty is good choice. Select a WELL FITTING size and make your slits on the diaper (3 or 4) running from the very front to the very back and diaper up well. Over that, wear your NorthShore as normal making sure to keep the base layer diaper within the bounds of the NorthShore. You can even still use a booster (between the two diapers) if you still need more absorption.

    The Certainty is a fast absorber, very fast. It will NOT hold very much by volume or under pressure and it presses out easily, but these are the qualities that you need to introduce to your night time protection. This diaper is used to stem flood as it were. The Certainty will absorb and spread quickly, the slits will allow for a lot of pass through and fairly quickly but no where near as fast as a direct flood. The Certainty slows down the volume of fluid introduced to your high capacity outer layer, allowing it to keep up with your void.

    If you can get the combo fitted correctly, it works well. I know it works well for me when I'm having full instantaneous voids. It's worth a shot and it's a much cheaper solution than adding another high end diaper (which won't help you out).

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    I just tried some inspire + diapers from Rearz as a possiable replacement for my Dry 24/7's and I have to say they wick way better then any other diaper I have tried. For fit I still prefer the sizing of dry 24/7's as I wear a medium but with the Inspire,it's a large due to the smaller cut they use .

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    The ABU Simples should hold up. I tried leaking in them and they held what would have caused me to change twice with the M4s. Then they had more space but I changed because I couldn't beleive how much they held. You can get a sample of Space diapers which are the Simples with print to try them.

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    If you're leaking out the crotch you might want to try changing your taping methods.

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    I use a L4 Abena at night with a 1000ml + booster with two cuts down the centre. No leaks in 12 hours. You work it out.

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