Quiting AB\DL

So your telling my i should pray to get better instead of getting medicine becuse if i pray and its in gods will i will get better

Im sorry, but i am not christian, and my reason...... *Note, i was as a child, i used to attend church and such

If god did exist, he wouldn't have allowed my parents to do what they did to me, to cause my problem in the first place.. and if he did exist he would not punish me for something my parents caused.

It is really annoying when people preach their religions, quoting texts and stuff, I dont care. everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, and religions, and as such you are free to do as you please, as am i..

BabyLea

As a final point, i read regular, that god does these things for a reason, if that is so, and god truly exists, then god is to blame for my current situation, now why would i prey and believe in a person who would do that?

Every thing is a cop out to you. But you don't see the truth. And faith is not just believing. It is seeing.. You must believe to see. Not see to believe. It makes a lot of sense when Jesus talks about faith. I have proof that God is real. But in order for you to see it you must believe because you must understand where I am coming from. I have felt what you are feeling before.

im not saying i dont belive i bielve in god but i dont bielve god wants me to give everything up I am a trans pansexual person ans rember you can say how strong your faith is but do you go out and help the less forantate feed and cloth the homeless becuse faith is more that just sitting in church for an hour you also have to act

LittleLando said:

Every thing is a cop out to you. But you don't see the truth. And faith is not just believing. It is seeing.. You must believe to see. Not see to believe. It makes a lot of sense when Jesus talks about faith. I have proof that God is real. But in order for you to see it you must believe because you must understand where I am coming from. I have felt what you are feeling before.

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This makes absolutely 0 sense. How do you expect a non believer to just believe? I am pretty sure it doesn't work like that. Then you claim I have to believe in order to get the proof. That's just silly. If I believed it, I wouldn't need the proof any longer. XD It's all just circular logic.

You seem like the type of person who would claim others are not "real" Christians, if so and so. You would also likely claim someone who was Christian before never accepted Jesus in their lives so they where not actually ever Christian and that is why there was never proof and why you never got a reply to your prayers.

I am sorry, but you will not convince me of such absurdities. XD

LittleLando said:

Because you decide to not have faith. You can't expect something to be answered and not have faith. On the other hand God does what is in his will. If I prayed for someone to be killed, that would only happen if it was in God's will. If it's not in his will them it dosnt happen. Everything Jesus our lord God does is righteous. It is righteous. And if you pray for him to show you if he is real and there is no Singh it is all because you have no faith there will be an answer or that you are not willing to change. It takes two to change not one. You must put your own work into it.

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The problem with this statement is, it is just as easy to say that a person had a lot of faith when their prayer was answered, as it is to day that a person didn't have enough faith when their prayer wasn't answered. There is then no responsibility on the side of God, it is either all your fault, or all praises to the lord. Heads I win, tails you loose.

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LittleLando said:

You are either for Jesus or you are against him.

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Hey you guys! Remember I don't hate anyone. For as purging I seem. I don't want to seem angry. Im only doing this because I want to help other as I know I Amy seem like I am not. But what happened to you before you choose to be an atheist? Was it doubt?

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That first statement is the same type of logic that Muslim Extremists use. It is black and white thinking. I am happy to let you live as a christian, however, for some reason you are not happy that I won't live as a christian because I am now fighting against your God (edit: or at least you claim it to be so).

If you are here because you want to help others, then first help yourself by getting some stability in your life. As far as I have seen from your posts, (edit)yesterday you were an Adult baby, and today, you have drastically changed to quitting. I think a 1 day adjustment period is too short to consider yourself stable.



Yes, we don't know who you are by any means, but we sure have gone through a whole lot of very similar experiences and by way of observation, can see some troubling signs.

But also rember LittleLando you want to help people but rember you cant help people that dont want help and also every relgion and prove that their god exsist trying to help people that dont want help is like trying convice some one that does not beilve in evolution that evolution

LittleLando said:

Every thing is a cop out to you. But you don't see the truth. And faith is not just believing. It is seeing.. You must believe to see. Not see to believe. It makes a lot of sense when Jesus talks about faith. I have proof that God is real. But in order for you to see it you must believe because you must understand where I am coming from. I have felt what you are feeling before.

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If i may interject, LittleLando, I agree in some senses, I have read the bible and yes i have been where you are, and yes i am a christian, and yes i go by faith, also I am a abdl, and everything, but i honestly don't feel god condemns me for this.

LittleLando said:

I am quiting AB\DL! AB\DL lifestyle is an addiction to me. And it can be an addiction to other people too. I'm not trying to make people feel bad for what they are doing. I'm not here to make anyone feel bad.so before you read this know hat I don't hate anyone here at all in any way possible. I don't think anything people do here is weird at all. Because I obviosly am here because I was an ABDL. But may I be the first person to quit their AB\DL addiction. Or may be the fist to call AB\DL and addiction. To tell you more in detain! About why I am Doug this. I am a Christian. I'm going to stabd for my faith! I don't care if I get banned or told to never come here again! I will stand up for what I believe in. I'm not an angry person. I believe in the Christian Faith and I must stress that this is a world full of deception. People! Atheist or whatever you are doing, there is a God who loves you. A God that can do anything! I believe in him. I'm going to stop because I love him and I want a relationship! He is the most High God.

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Beleve me, It can be an adiction for people, Christians included, lots of things are yes, anything from anime to video games to music to fan-fiction, to even ABDL but it doesn't have to be, and i am going to be honest here if i may say, If there is a god there most century is a Devil and he acts as an angel of light, and i just want you to prey to god to double check if this is what he wants for your life, because this whole thing seems fishy at best, I'm not trying to judge anyone here, I'm just trying to help.

LittleLando said:

Anyway, this world is a world full of deception. By being an AB\DL, we fall into the deception this world offers. It is hard. It is very hard not to. But we must not. If you have a real Christian experience you know what I am talking about. A Christian life and a relationship with God is more important than anything because it has so much more to offer than AB\DL. It is a life full of richness in the only God who loves you! Jesus died on the cross for our sins and a lot of the world decides to call this just a bunch of cheesy stuff that's fake. Well I'm gonna tell you once and for all! It's not! Because I love it. And I choose love rather than objects. Because objects can't love you back. A real God can. And there is much more to it than just that! I have proof that Christianity is real. But to believe you must have faith. Please guys don't involve yourself in this world but go and believe in Christianity. I'm telling you this not because I want to convert you but because in this day and age you cannot trust this world. And the reason why you can trust me is because chritianity is NOT of this world. It is the truth.

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This world is full of pain and heartache as i can attest, and i agree that objects can't love you back there just things, also god never said having things such as diapers, video games, and stuff like that are wrong, it just matters who you put first, do you put the diapers and ABDL stuff first, or god. That's what matters in my option.

LittleLando said:

Thank you so much! And again! I'm not here to try to judge people as it seems that I have because this is not my judgement but it is the judgment of God. But Christianity is a faith. And for people who wonder why Christianity is not compatible with AB\DL is because the bible tells you to leave your childish ways. This is not about religion but it is about faith.

Here is the passage about leaving your childish ways.

[[[[[1 Corinthians 13:11King James Version (KJV)

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.]]]]]

Also when you have a sexual fetish, you are putting your fetish before God. You need to put God before your fetish. But to do that you can have a fetish but you can't use your fetish. You cannot put things before God. God must be more important over all things. If there is another Christian on this forum struggling with this too please let me know i would be more than happy to help you. Not that I am any better , because I am not! But you may want someone to help you. I am not here to try judge people. All ideas I say are said because of what the holy bible talks about. This a world is heading away from God. Before this age, it was not as much. But the world has turned away.

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No one is trying to judge anyone, and no one is saying that there better than you, also about the fetish thing, It is possible to use your fetish and still be a christian, but like you said you have to put god first before whatever. also having a fetish doesn't mean that your not a christian, it just means, well you have a fetish, it doesn't mean that you can't live a godly life, or have a semi-normal life, with kids and everyone, it just means you have to turn to god for help, to live and to be normal.

brabbit1987 said:

The bible also tells you a lot of other things that I can bet you do not follow some of them.

masturbating
watching porn
eating bacon
gossiping
gluttony
women speaking in church
being gay
Wearing polyester and other mixed fabrics
eating certain seafoods
working on saturday
round haircuts

The list goes on and on. Some of which the punishment would be to be put to death. I realize people will believe what they believe, but what I don't get is when a person goes all anal over it and only picks and chooses what they believe from the book, rather than the whole thing.

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Very true Berabbit, also some of those things are left over from the Judaism, but it is almost impossible to follow, what 400 some commandments, other than the ten we already know, (The Pharisees, did it but i don't know if they really count,) but we believe that god is greater than our sins, and that no one is perfect, everyone has sinned, and has fallen short of the glory of god. that's why he is here to help us, and that is why Littlelando, that you need to prey for help with this. (Berabbit I am not trying to talk to you, I am just trying to help with this really.)

LittleLando said:

You guys don't know who I am. I was a normal ABDL and my life was troubling me with my situation with God. I didn't show you guys my feeling about anything. But today, today I choose to change. I will no longer comeback for what I used to come here for in the past. Never. You don't know what I have experienced. Every single thing that you guys have told me, I expected. Because I know how people think when they are not Christian. Because there are times I have felt the same. You are either for Jesus or you are against him. And if you are not for him you are against him. You guys don't know the difference. You don't know that even though I acted normal, I was still struggling. I was choosing the wrong path. But now I choose the other way and I choose to change. All you who choose not to listen are worldly. You don't understand me and you probly never will. I was expecting to be killed for this. But I'm standing in faith.

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"Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.]]]]]

It is Jesus who said this. And it is true.

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No one is saying that what you experienced isn't true, and yes that verse is true, but there is anouther verse that you need to consider, that jesus has said,

John 8:7-11 said:

But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her, Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground, At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you,"Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

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The bible also says that All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of god, no one is immune from that, well except for Jesus, but he was a special case, but still the thing you need to do is to prey to god personally and ask if this is wrong, because like i said i have been where you are.

LittleLando said:

Because you decide to not have faith. You can't expect something to be answered and not have faith. On the other hand God does what is in his will. If I prayed for someone to be killed, that would only happen if it was in God's will. If it's not in his will them it dosnt happen. Everything Jesus our lord God does is righteous. It is righteous. And if you pray for him to show you if he is real and there is no Sign it is all because you have no faith there will be an answer or that you are not willing to change. It takes two to change not one. You must put your own work into it.

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The thing is that i believe that god answers that based on weather or not we have faith or not, but i also believe that god also chooses weather or not that he answers the prayer, If it's something ridiculous, or if its not in his will than, no he won't awenser it, also you have to determine who it's for or who you are quitting for, god or yourself that's what you and god need to determine.

The way I see it, God gave us free will for a reason. Sure we abuse it at times, but he still loves us all the same. Also as for the praying bit asking God if it is right or not, I just always think back to what my old teacher used to say. You can pray to God for a bike and although you might not get it up front, he does provide the opportunity for you to do so.

I'm a Christian, but I find this latest missive of yours at odds with some of the other threads you've begun over the past several days. Would you mind telling us what forces or ideas compelled you to shift from ordering ABU Space diapers to "quoting AB/DL" in such a brief period of time?

Goodbye. Listen to my first post. This is the truth You who are not Christians are in this world and of it. I am not. I no longer doubt the existence of God. Because I choose to believe it and with that choice comes proof you can see while believing. I'm out of here!

Yes in general Americans have a hard time setting boundries and one of the toughest for them is the word NO.

Sex,drugs,alcohol,gambling,religion,food are all boundries that some have more trouble be it genetic influence or an unlearned ability to say no to things,
But with all addictions there is a "victim" be it society, your family unit,your health, ABDL Is victimless there is no harm done to anyone including themselves, if anything a good is done because the largest organ in the human body is the skin and being diapered requires a much higher degree of upkeep than most people take of their skin, most drug addicts spend enormous amounts of money on drugs,harming themselves and forsaking a stable environment like a solid roof over their head,same thing with alot of alcoholics and gamblers, not to mention the cost to one's health and body.

What price does an ABDL pay to there health,an increased awareness of there overall health and a greater upkeep of their skin...

IMHO ABDL falls alot farther from the tree of addictions and self abuse than most people care to imagine,and therfore falls squarely outside of an addiction realm and into the psychological personality uniqueness or quirk.

No addiction has ever cured anything,including religious addictions,I am Catholic but do not run around quoting scripture, nor do try and "convert" others to my flavor of religion.

Religion is a personal choice, what you put in and get out is clearly unique to you, just like law,cops enforce the law not as its written but as they belive it,because nothing is written in stone or able to be written in one way so it means one thing to everyone, it all depends on a person's upbringing role models and their personslity, and yes you might say the ten commandments where written in stone ( allegedly ) can you prove it, did you see it,where you there? No.

So the long and short of it is if your religious beliefs helped you to seemingly find an answer to your own personal question, great,I'm thrilled for you. Just as I'm happy for all those people who see the blessed mother on their toast or find her in there bag of chips,as for the rest of us we live, learn, experience and understand this life as we go, and get older.

I feel ABDL is not something that needs to be "cured" or evaluated with the broad strokes of a brush loaded with religious beleif, it is personal to each person just as each person's religion is.

Peace

Bottom line Littlelando, doubt is the work of the devil. When you start believing you will not be forgiven for ANY transgression, then you have let the devil win you over. Remember that God sent Jesus into the world to save it, not to condemn it. With all the wars, disease, mass murders and overall corruption in the world, God has many, many more things to worry about than if a young man such as yourself piddles in a diaper. You are saved and God loves and forgives you of all your sins, no matter how great or small.

Peace.

~Zip~

LittleLando, good luck. I tryed to stop more than one time and the wish always returned. Beating yourself isn't sane... I'd ask you what you'll d if the wish returns ? - Because it'll return with very high probability in question of a few weeks or a pair of months. I understand your motivation, but.. When I tryed to stop I was with "because insane," not because "God said..." I'm not christian, but if God made ABDL people, so it's part of this world, no place to some devil's dance. Devil's dance is something different: See what's doing ISIL, for example.

Now not sane or insane, only moderating... Try to accept yoursef how you're. Throw out for a while that religious balast and try to think how you'll handle your life, where's lack of something. As first: Using diapers/paci killing you or others ? - No. There's start point. Continue yourself.

If you're really decided to leave ABDL world, I think you'll be first, who reached this object. As Iknow, a lot of us we suffered binging/purging cycle, which has only two solutions: Bad and worst - enjoy or selfhate.

Or there'd be something strange: You're not real AB/DL, so there's no place to discuss.

LittleLando said:

Goodbye. Listen to my first post. This is the truth You who are not Christians are in this world and of it. I am not. I no longer doubt the existence of God. Because I choose to believe it and with that choice comes proof you can see while believing. I'm out of here!

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I am still puzzled about why you think AB/DL and Christianity are incompatible. The Bible quote you gave us really doesn't look relevant. You mention that AB/DL is an addiction (at least for you). Does Christianity condemn all addictions? Even harmless ones and beneficial ones (like coffee)?

In any case, I hope that you are doing okay. If you decide to come back, you'll be welcome. There are many people here who would be happy to talk about how to fit AB/DL into your life in a way that makes it less like an overwhelming compulsion and more like morning coffee.

LittleLando said:

Goodbye. Listen to my first post. This is the truth You who are not Christians are in this world and of it. I am not. I no longer doubt the existence of God. Because I choose to believe it and with that choice comes proof you can see while believing. I'm out of here!

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I tried to listen to your first post, but got zero rebuttal for my replies. I provided scripture for scripture, logic for logic, and never had a direct reply. If you can't defend your stance, then how can I support this as truth? LittleLando, if you want to believe the way you do, that is fine by me, but before you go spouting out condemnation on everybody, take some time to consider that you might be wrong, and then contemplate the impression you might be making on people by implying that they are all going to go to hell for wearing diapers.

Good luck, LL. There is no shame if you find yourself back at this site. People here will try to support you. Most of us understand that a religious quest is a very personal thing.

Ah man, did I miss the saucy religious discussion? I didn't even get a chance to share my Atheism and explain why I think religion is a bunch of poopy butts ;-;

parkerpeter said:

Ah man, did I miss the saucy religious discussion? I didn't even get a chance to share my Atheism and explain why I think religion is a bunch of poopy butts ;-;

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The thread is still open. Fire away!

God is not real.