iD Expert products

I believe some ICs in the UK (and maybe our ABDL friends as well!) who get nappies issued by the NHS may find this interesting.

I am issued iD Expert slips by the NHS for a lifelong bedwetting issue. I recently received my quarterly batch, and as usual they are completely plastic backed. But simply out of curiosity, I ordered a couple of samples from a UK site (Incontinence Choice - check the site out, they have a huge range, are reasonably priced, and they ship very promptly and very discreetly). Anyway, it appears that most of the iD Expert items they stock are cloth-backed, although there are one or two of the smaller sizes (no good to me!) that are PE backed.

It will be interesting to see if the NHS issued ones remain plastic-backed (is it cheaper for the manufacturer to produce them and therefore more attractive to the NHS?) or whether at some point in the future they will go over to cloth backing as well.

Incidentally, the cloth-backed samples I bought performed equally as well as the plastic-backed ones I normally use. I really cannot find any difference, they both keep my bed dry, which is all I ask, so it will not bother me in the least if they do go cloth-backed.

hi ladyofshadows I was wondering if you have urine or double incontinence at night , I have bladder incontinence and get my id pads daily through the nhs but I have to buy slips for night which I do through inco choice as being a side sleeper the pads leak easier at night .
I have been told by the incontinence nurse I have to have fecal incontinence to get slips .

Many companies either switched to cloth backed after many years of being plastic and/or simply dropped there plastic backed versions.

ID slip expert come in PE and cloth backed versions and will likely stay that way as two seperate products, as they only came to market in the last year or so, replacing Euron form - As a newly marketed product their not following the trend of giving no option but cloth, so they must have researched it and found there is demand for it.

The PE backed versions can be found at many sites, it just depends on what the site buys and their customers demand etc

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The cloth backed ID slips say "cotton feel" on the package, the PE don't. Note some websites use the same picture for both versions, so along as the product description says PE it should be plastic.

adderuk said:

Many companies either switched to cloth backed after many years of being plastic and/or simply dropped there plastic backed versions.

ID slip expert come in PE and cloth backed versions and will likely stay that way as two seperate products, as they only came to market in the last year or so, replacing Euron form - As a newly marketed product their not following the trend of giving no option but cloth, so they must have researched it and found there is demand for it.

The PE backed versions can be found at many sites, it just depends on what the site buys and their customers demand etc

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The cloth backed ID slips say "cotton feel" on the package, the PE don't. Note some websites use the same picture for both versions, so along as the product description says PE it should be plastic.

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It is my understanding, both from the Continence Clinic, and from documentation which came with the first delivery of iD Expert that I received that they are in fact Euron Form, but re-branded (and I personally believe) improved somewhat, rather than a new product. Certainly the parent company for both the now defunct Euron brand and the iD Expert brand is the same, i.e. Ontex BV of Belgium, who are I believe, in turn owned by Lille.

I still suspect though that the plastic backing may be cheaper to the NHS, which is why up to now at least the ones I am supplied with are plastic backed. I think also that where both are available to buy, they will be the same price, or as nearly the same as makes no difference, anyway.

However, as I said in my original post, it is immaterial to me which I get; I found them equally reliable.

dad3601 said:

hi ladyofshadows I was wondering if you have urine or double incontinence at night , I have bladder incontinence and get my id pads daily through the nhs but I have to buy slips for night which I do through inco choice as being a side sleeper the pads leak easier at night .
I have been told by the incontinence nurse I have to have fecal incontinence to get slips .

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I am a lifelong bedwetter; I have no problem whatsoever with my bowels. I do have some minor bladder control issues during the day. However, at night, I tend to wet whilst asleep around 25% of the time, though it is very erratic and utterly unpredictable; I can be dry for extended periods, or conversely I can be wet every night for long periods, too. It is I am told something which it is likely that I will suffer from for the rest of my life. Medications I have been given in the past have had little or no effect, with some side-effects. I told my GP and other Urology specialists that I no longer wish to take medications, and that I do not wish to consider surgery, and that is when I was finally given the option of using incontinence products.

No one at the Continence and Urology clinic ever told me I had to be fecally incontinent in order to be given slips. Indeed, I was given them from the off (they were Euron Form then) and the only change to what I was originally issued with was when I asked for a higher absorbency one. I suspect that if your Continence Service won't give you slips, it is a local policy.

I'm not sure if the NHS prefer full plastic backed because its cheaper. In my experience i think they may prefer cloth backed as its better for skin. I personally get molicare comfort which are plastic backed with cloth breathable panels