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    I hope this isn't against the rules, as its just a news article about the subjects being banned. It would appear this banned all ab/DL related stuff as well.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-9897174.html

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    There's been a lot of (somewhat understandable) fear throughout the UK about abnormal sexuality, in the wake of child sex abuse scandals in towns like Rochdale and Rotherham, where hundreds of incidents have been uncovered by the authorities. Whilst I'm absolutely in favour of a clampdown on that type of deviant sexuality, the lawmakers seem to have assumed that all Kinks are somehow dangerous, because they too represent a kind of sexuality mistrusted by our society.

    However squeamish people are about fisting, erotic urination, sexual ageplay scenarios or physical restraint, as long as it's done in a safe and consenting way, I see no issue with such pornography existing, or for that matter, with anyone of legal age engaging in these acts. I feel such a clampdown on non-mainstream pornography is especially murky, as people who primarily get off on those kinks might attempt other, potentially more dangerous ways to satiate their sexual desires.

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    Too many legislators with too much time on their hands. It isn't enough to have a law against assault and battery, you have to have a law against a picture of it too.

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    Weirdly, as written I'm not sure if that bans diapers. It bans role playing as non-adults and watersports, but that might not quite cover wearing a diaper and otherwise acting like an adult. A fascinating question for anyone that wants to hire a solicitor.

    At any rate, it seems overly broad to me. Along with previous issues where people got in trouble in England for owning especially graphic manga, I can't say I'm pleased with their lawmakers.

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    In fact these types of pornography are not technically banned - what you're not allowed to do is sell them online through a video streaming service. You can still (as far as I can see) give them away via a video hosting site.

    Looking at the explanatory notes for the regulations:



    Regulation 2 amends section 368E(2) of the Act to provide that an on-demand programme service must not contain a video work that the video works authority (the British Board of Film Classification (“BBFC”)) has refused to give a classification certificate under arrangements made pursuant to the Video Recordings Act 1984(9) or any material that would have been refused such a certificate.

    Regulation 2 also amends section 368E(2) of the Act to provide that an on-demand programme service must not contain a video work that the BBFC has given a R18 certificate to, any material that would have received such a certificate or other material that might seriously impair the physical, mental or moral development of persons under the age of 18 unless the material is made available in a manner which secures that such persons will not normally see or hear it.
    Basically the purpose of these regulations is to say that Netflix cannot offer Lesbian Spank Inferno as of interest to those customers who enjoyed Doctor Who. That seems very sensible to me - I don't think online TV and Film should be treated differently from broadcast or cinema TV as far as classification goes. We are collateral damage because the BBFC Restricted 18 certificate still has a lot of restrictions in it....



    Quote Originally Posted by British Board of Film Classification
    The R18 category is a special and legally-restricted classification primarily for explicit works of consenting sex or strong fetish material involving adults. Films may only be shown to adults in specially licensed cinemas, and video works may be supplied to adults only in licensed sex shops. R18 video works may not be supplied by mail order.
    I think it's very sensible that this classification category exists, however given that it already does everything possible to prevent under-18s from getting their hands on this material, I think it is foolish that it is prevented from containing such things as:



    Quote Originally Posted by British Board of Film Classification
    material (including dialogue) likely to encourage
    an interest in sexually abusive activity which may
    include adults role-playing as non-adults
    ...which is the clause most of interest to us. I'm not going to pretend that people are not influenced by the cultural products the consume, but the idea that someone would go from an interest in age-play to actual child-abuse is shows the influence of fear and ignorance there is about deviant sexuality amongst most policy makers

    I wonder if Blue Remembered Hills would fall foul of this? I suspect that it would escape through the same artistic merit loophole that Lady Chatterley got through... it's currently a 12 Certificate.

    I'm quite happy for people not to make money off of videos showing people fucking human corpses or breaking bones or chopping of hands. I think there should be limits on what a boss can willingly pay a worker to do. I also think if there is going to be sensible regulation of video pornography in this country we need R18 to expand to include portrayal of the sexual practices which thousands of adults living normal healthy lives enjoy between themselves every week.
    Last edited by MsClara; 03-Dec-2014 at 16:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchieRoni View Post
    Weirdly, as written I'm not sure if that bans diapers. It bans role playing as non-adults and watersports, but that might not quite cover wearing a diaper and otherwise acting like an adult.
    ... Actually, I think this covers it:



    Role-playing as non-adults
    I really think that the harmless stuff is unnecessarily sweeping...Have they made some non-medical assumption that water-sports leads to rape or something??? Are they so uneducated that they use fear instead of data when there's a lack thereof for any evidence thereof... Sorry, that country is just MESSED up! Here in Canada...UK clone, I can only imagine something ridiculous and similar coming along...Hopefully the US-style free-speech movement will keep that at bay though, lol.

    The good thing is, the UK doesn't ban watching it though...So, North American porn it is for you Brits if you want it in English lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchieRoni View Post
    Weirdly, as written I'm not sure if that bans diapers. It bans role playing as non-adults and watersports, but that might not quite cover wearing a diaper and otherwise acting like an adult. A fascinating question for anyone that wants to hire a solicitor.
    Simpler than that: just write the BBFC an email, pretending to be an Adult Film company and ask them for a guidance opinion. No doubt many such emails are being written as we speak... of the top of my head I would say: wearing an Tena and masturbating in it is probably acceptable, wearing a Pampers is probably not.

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    This seems like a very politically driven solution in search of a problem.

    It would be nice if legislators could try and tackle real, serious issues rather than wasting their time on nonsense that I'd wager is primarily about gathering votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan09 View Post
    wasting their time on nonsense that I'd wager is primarily about gathering votes.
    But, but! That's all politicians do! They only legislate if it fits their agenda! lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsClaraRiddle View Post
    Simpler than that: just write the BBFC an email, pretending to be an Adult Film company and ask them for a guidance opinion. No doubt many such emails are being written as we speak... of the top of my head I would say: wearing an Tena and masturbating in it is probably acceptable, wearing a Pampers is probably not.
    Maybe. But then, imagine you just had a very petite adult character who's a bedwetter and wears pampers for it. It's a porn film, so presumably there's some sex featured in those night scenes, but nobody is wetting on-screen or pretending to be another age.

    Edit: Also, I'll laugh so hard if a movie gets banned for somebody calling somebody else "baby" along with some cuddling or something.

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