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Thread: Any of you expressing support for Gary Johnson?

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    Default Any of you expressing support for Gary Johnson?

    If you don't know who Gary Johnson is, I'll tell you. He's the Libertarian Party candidate for President in 2012 and was the governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2003. I'm having the guts to vote for him after seeing what the Republican National Convention did to Ron Paul and his delegates and the fact that almost no one wins in a write-in campaign. You see, Gary Johnson is legitimately on the ballot in almost every state. The only states that have not put him in are Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. I think Gary Johnson's political positions are somewhat identical to those of Ron Paul, but I am not sure how I'm going to compare them side to side to see how different they are. I am wondering if any of you have heard of him or support him. Feel free to comment!!

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    Have never heard of him, so as of now, no, there is no support for him. But voting for someone out of spite, no matter how much you may dislike the GOP for something they did is not a reason to vote. You should be voting based on the issues and who will do more good for this country. Sadly a vote that is not for a Democrat or a Republican is a wasted vote in this country as people only think those are their two options. Until that changes this guy has as much chance at winning as the Govenator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) Whom cannot win because he can never be president.

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    I've heard of him. But then again, I'm aware of that Canada has two communist parties (neither of whom have yet to endorse Obama, as far as I know) and that the US still has an active prohibition party so I'm not quite your average person when it comes to politics.

    While Johnson can theoretically still win the elections, I'd legitimately be shocked if he got more than half a percent of the national vote. I don't want to discourage you from voting for the candidate you believe is the best for your country, but ultimately how little support Ron Paul got during the GOP nomination process outside of a small but core group of supporters indicate that there is currently not really a hunger for a pure libertarian in the White House. Say what you will about Paul delegates being shafted at the convention (you won't hear me argue otherwise) but at the end of the day he got 10% of the votes in the primaries - even with a low turnout and his supporters super motivated. That's less than even Gingrinch or Santorum, who both dropped out earlier. The only "state" he actually won in terms of popular vote are the US Virgin Islands, which doesn't even vote in presidential elections.

    So not to be a downer, but it's looking pretty bleak for Johnson for this election. Probably the next one, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Near View Post
    I've heard of him. But then again, I'm aware of that Canada has two communist parties (neither of whom have yet to endorse Obama, as far as I know) and that the US still has an active prohibition party so I'm not quite your average person when it comes to politics.
    You would be amazed at the parties that are in the U.S. that are never seen on the ballot and how easy it is to start your own.

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    As a Canadian who casually follows american politics I was disappointed to see how poorly Ron Paul did in GOP nominations. I would have loved to have seen some libertarian ideals presented intelligently in mainstream politics. Even in Canada, where a socialist party can hold an alarming number of seats in the house of commons our libertarian party doesn't seem to get much attention.

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    The percentage of people who stand to gain a net benefit from libertarian policies who are actually voting for Gary Johnson is a rounding error from zero. This is because only the super-rich stand to benefit from libertarian policies, eliminating most libertarian voters, and the super-rich tend to be wise enough with money to donate to (and then vote for) an alternative which can actually win eliminating most of them.


    Voting libertarian is essentially an admission that you do not understand introductory college-level economics or higher. The numerous ways in which almost every person would suffer from libertarian economic policy swamps any advantages they might gain from saner social policies. Being able to buy marijuana legally or get a same-sex marriage kind of pales in comparison to the implications of the economic damage from living through a massive depression on a scale unseen in US history. It is indeed true that Gary Johnson's positions are largely similar to Ron Paul's, and as such, they are just as devastatingly damaging.


    I take solace in the fact that those voting for Gary Johnson would be, on par, far more likely to vote for Romney if forced to choose between the two major candidates.

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    As "damaging" as Gary Johnson's and Ron Paul's policies would be by helping big businesses, it's hardly worst than the politicains bought out by corporations. Most people tolerate the parties simple becuase it's the evils they know.

    I would also like to point out Jill stein may be the only candidate, who can theoretically win, the actually would actually actively try to protect the middle class from banks and businesses. Obama even said he will compromise in his next term, so don't expect any help from him, unless if you are a student maybe.

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    I have considered voting for Johnson as I am to the point where I do NOT trust both major parties in the US anymore. I am no Ron Paul supporter as I generally despise him, but even I think he got a shaft job at the RNC this year. I only say that cause I believe in being fair and I also believe that Johnson should have been in the debates and I believe his running mate should be debating tomorrow night much like Admiral Stockdale did for Ross Perot in 1992.

    This wouldn't be the first time I have voted third party. I voted third party in 2000 for Ralph Nader, and when Bush 'won' the election that year I got scared enough to vote Democrat again as I had voted Democat in 1996. I am more awake on things and I have been following things more than I have in the past. I am no Libertarian, I disagree with some Libertarian principles but I do believe it is time for a major league change in the US from the two-party system that has been broken for some time. I'm rather tired of the lesser of two evils crap we have had to deal with in the US.

    I do agree with Johnson on points that we should not be involved in foriegn affairs, get out of the middle east and stop wasting money overseas where we should be spending it HERE on our infrastructure and repair our crumbling bridges and highways before we have another interstate bridge collapse like the one in Minnesota in 2007. I think it's time for the US to worry about the US and not the rest of the world.

    WildThing121675

    I really am considering voting Gary Johnson this year to make a statement because I am fed up with the system as a whole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildThing121675 View Post
    I really am considering voting Gary Johnson this year to make a statement because I am fed up with the system as a whole...
    I sympathize with the thought, but if a tree falls in the forest with no one around, does it still make a sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildThing121675 View Post
    I am no Ron Paul supporter as I generally despise him,

    I really am considering voting Gary Johnson this year
    Does... not.... compute.

    From everyone who knows of Gary and Ron Paul. They normally say they are really similar in terms of idea's and plans.

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