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    Anyone ever have a Urodynamics test done? Oh dam never mind I found a link from last year. *crap* I go next Friday for the torture.

    So after going over my history the doc thinks it may be all related to nerve damage. Not my tailbone but actually from my L5 S1. Hopefully between the cystoscopy & the uro test they will determine the culprit. All I am concerned about that its not my prostate. My dad just had his removed due to cancer. My regular MD actually told me it is not hereditary. I told this to the urologist & he said it most certainly is.

    So now I am really starting to consider the lawsuit against my Dr. for...well..killing me back in April. I think he needs to go into another field of work like ditch digger :/

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    As a side note, i am a medical student (and although i can see what he said wasnt necessarily the right thing, you do need to consider what he has said). Prostate cancer is a bit of a controversial topic in the medical field. We have tests for it (two as a matter of fact with one being a blood test called PSA and the other is a digital rectal examination [yes, this is the stereotypical finger up the rectum]). The thing is that if a PSA test comes back as positive, it doesnt mean you have prostate cancer due to the fact that this test might just be detecting some other changes in your body (for example, the test can come back as positive if you have recently ridden a bike or had intercourse). If it does come back as positive then you need more tests to see what it might be and to rule out the other causes (which have nothing to do with prostate cancer). The other test (digital rectal exam) also has issues of not being very accurate either and the doctor may be able to feel something that isn't there or it might not be anything at all. Again, if this comes up then other tests are needed.

    This other test that i am talking about (if either the digital rectal exam or the blood test comes back as positive) is a biopsy of the prostate which is not a very nice prodecure (they basically insert a tube up the rectum and puncture through the rectal wall and into the prostate). As you can probably guess, the experience of that is not pleasant and has a number of risks in itself.

    Also, yes the doctor did not give you the right information about prostate cancer. But this is not a reason to think the doctor has killed you (that is a huge overstatement). As a matter of fact, the majority of people with prostate cancer die from other causes (i.e. the die WITH prostate cancer but due to other cases). Yes, there are a number of cases where there are some advanced prostate cancers that do cause serious damage, but it is definitely not the norm. Secondly, within the medical profession, we are still not sure of whether performing surgery to remove the cancer or trying to treat the cancer even helps at all. By that i mean that the side effects of the surgery to treat the prostate cancer are pretty bad and some say that these side effects outweigh the benefits of actually performing the surgery anyways (especially if the prostate cancer wouldnt progress very far and the person dies from a natural cause other then the cancer).

    Lastly, im sure you doctor would also have had to consider your family history. The fact that your dad had prostate cancer doesnt mean it is in your family. did you grandfather have prostate cancer? how old was your father when he was diagnosed with prostate cancer? any other types of cancer in your family? These are all questions that need to be answered before you can know that you have a risk of prostate cancer or not. if your father is still very young and he has prostate cancer then there might be something to consider (i.e. we are talking about he was diagnosed at age 50 or less). But even then, that does not mean that your family has a history of cancer.

    To be honest, i think that a lawsuit for this would not be a very appropriate thing as there hasnt been a huge risk to you. Yes, cancer is not a fun thing at all (i do not deny that at all) but the reality is that prostate cancer isnt actually a huge killer of men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek61 View Post
    As a side note, i am a medical student (and although i can see what he said wasnt necessarily the right thing, you do need to consider what he has said). Prostate cancer is a bit of a controversial topic in the medical field. We have tests for it (two as a matter of fact with one being a blood test called PSA and the other is a digital rectal examination [yes, this is the stereotypical finger up the rectum]). The thing is that if a PSA test comes back as positive, it doesnt mean you have prostate cancer due to the fact that this test might just be detecting some other changes in your body (for example, the test can come back as positive if you have recently ridden a bike or had intercourse). If it does come back as positive then you need more tests to see what it might be and to rule out the other causes (which have nothing to do with prostate cancer). The other test (digital rectal exam) also has issues of not being very accurate either and the doctor may be able to feel something that isn't there or it might not be anything at all. Again, if this comes up then other tests are needed.

    This other test that i am talking about (if either the digital rectal exam or the blood test comes back as positive) is a biopsy of the prostate which is not a very nice prodecure (they basically insert a tube up the rectum and puncture through the rectal wall and into the prostate). As you can probably guess, the experience of that is not pleasant and has a number of risks in itself.

    Also, yes the doctor did not give you the right information about prostate cancer. But this is not a reason to think the doctor has killed you (that is a huge overstatement). As a matter of fact, the majority of people with prostate cancer die from other causes (i.e. the die WITH prostate cancer but due to other cases). Yes, there are a number of cases where there are some advanced prostate cancers that do cause serious damage, but it is definitely not the norm. Secondly, within the medical profession, we are still not sure of whether performing surgery to remove the cancer or trying to treat the cancer even helps at all. By that i mean that the side effects of the surgery to treat the prostate cancer are pretty bad and some say that these side effects outweigh the benefits of actually performing the surgery anyways (especially if the prostate cancer wouldnt progress very far and the person dies from a natural cause other then the cancer).

    Lastly, im sure you doctor would also have had to consider your family history. The fact that your dad had prostate cancer doesnt mean it is in your family. did you grandfather have prostate cancer? how old was your father when he was diagnosed with prostate cancer? any other types of cancer in your family? These are all questions that need to be answered before you can know that you have a risk of prostate cancer or not. if your father is still very young and he has prostate cancer then there might be something to consider (i.e. we are talking about he was diagnosed at age 50 or less). But even then, that does not mean that your family has a history of cancer.

    To be honest, i think that a lawsuit for this would not be a very appropriate thing as there hasnt been a huge risk to you. Yes, cancer is not a fun thing at all (i do not deny that at all) but the reality is that prostate cancer isnt actually a huge killer of men.
    Sorry, I failed to mention that prior to my colon resection surgery in April My MD failed to tell me to stop taking a medication that was causing my blood to thin. I flat lined due to loss of blood in the middle of the night. I went through 4 surgeries before they found what was bleeding I now have no spleen. My morals to this point have kept me from contacting a lawyer but seeing how his lack of knowledge is continuing to cause me due stress I am starting to rethink my situation.
    So yeah, I am not being over dramatic in my statement what so ever.

    My dad is in his early 70's Grand father on dads side died from asbestos related cancer. grand father on mothers side died late 50's early 60's from heart attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek61 View Post
    As a side note, i am a medical student (and although i can see what he said wasnt necessarily the right thing, you do need to consider what he has said). Prostate cancer is a bit of a controversial topic in the medical field. We have tests for it (two as a matter of fact with one being a blood test called PSA and the other is a digital rectal examination [yes, this is the stereotypical finger up the rectum]). The thing is that if a PSA test comes back as positive, it doesnt mean you have prostate cancer due to the fact that this test might just be detecting some other changes in your body (for example, the test can come back as positive if you have recently ridden a bike or had intercourse). If it does come back as positive then you need more tests to see what it might be and to rule out the other causes (which have nothing to do with prostate cancer). The other test (digital rectal exam) also has issues of not being very accurate either and the doctor may be able to feel something that isn't there or it might not be anything at all. Again, if this comes up then other tests are needed.

    This other test that i am talking about (if either the digital rectal exam or the blood test comes back as positive) is a biopsy of the prostate which is not a very nice prodecure (they basically insert a tube up the rectum and puncture through the rectal wall and into the prostate). As you can probably guess, the experience of that is not pleasant and has a number of risks in itself.

    Also, yes the doctor did not give you the right information about prostate cancer. But this is not a reason to think the doctor has killed you (that is a huge overstatement). As a matter of fact, the majority of people with prostate cancer die from other causes (i.e. the die WITH prostate cancer but due to other cases). Yes, there are a number of cases where there are some advanced prostate cancers that do cause serious damage, but it is definitely not the norm. Secondly, within the medical profession, we are still not sure of whether performing surgery to remove the cancer or trying to treat the cancer even helps at all. By that i mean that the side effects of the surgery to treat the prostate cancer are pretty bad and some say that these side effects outweigh the benefits of actually performing the surgery anyways (especially if the prostate cancer wouldnt progress very far and the person dies from a natural cause other then the cancer).

    Lastly, im sure you doctor would also have had to consider your family history. The fact that your dad had prostate cancer doesnt mean it is in your family. did you grandfather have prostate cancer? how old was your father when he was diagnosed with prostate cancer? any other types of cancer in your family? These are all questions that need to be answered before you can know that you have a risk of prostate cancer or not. if your father is still very young and he has prostate cancer then there might be something to consider (i.e. we are talking about he was diagnosed at age 50 or less). But even then, that does not mean that your family has a history of cancer.

    To be honest, i think that a lawsuit for this would not be a very appropriate thing as there hasnt been a huge risk to you. Yes, cancer is not a fun thing at all (i do not deny that at all) but the reality is that prostate cancer isnt actually a huge killer of men.
    Sorry, I failed to mention that prior to my colon resection surgery in April My MD failed to tell me to stop taking a medication that was causing my blood to thin. I flat lined due to loss of blood in the middle of the night. I went through 4 surgeries before they found what was bleeding I now have no spleen. My morals to this point have kept me from contacting a lawyer but seeing how his lack of knowledge is continuing to cause me due stress I am starting to rethink my situation.
    So yeah, I am not being over dramatic in my statement what so ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaiii View Post
    What happened in April?
    I went in for a colon resection to take care of my diverticulitis. My spleen got nicked during the surgery & because my doctor failed to tell me to stop taking a medication that he prescribed I wound up bleeding to death later that night after the surgery. They restarted my heart with CPR & pumped enough blood in me for 2 1/2 people before they found where I was bleeding from. Now instead of the 4 small holes from the scopes I have on top of that an 11" long scar starting at my breast plate & ending almost at my pelvic bone. I also now have no spleen & have to be supper careful about infections & if I get a fever over 100.5 I have to start taking antibiotics regardless of what it is. I see the cardiologist on the 20th & have to have a full cardo work up to see if I have any damage from the cardiac arrest (heart attack) I had when my heart had nothing to pump.
    Last edited by Trevor; 17-Aug-2012 at 23:39. Reason: removing auto-merged duplicate post.

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    Hey Griz. I thought finding a video would be a little better than me trying to describe it. It's a woman in the video and it's an ad for equipment but pretty detailed and was almost identical to what I did before.
    Urodynamics Testing Procedure...By: Quinn Medical
    If you're good with getting cath'd and don't mind the embarrassment then you're all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitsiulla View Post
    Hey Griz. I thought finding a video would be a little better than me trying to describe it. It's a woman in the video and it's an ad for equipment but pretty detailed and was almost identical to what I did before.
    Urodynamics Testing Procedure...By: Quinn Medical
    If you're good with getting cath'd and don't mind the embarrassment then you're all good
    Thanks Kit. I read up on it & talked to my pops & he had it done as well. Dose not sound like a big deal. I am just concerned because on the paper work they gave me stated that they would give an antibiotic before the procedure just in case of infection. One of the doctors shrugged it off when I told him I have no spleen & said not to worry. All what my other doctors tell me is I have to be extremely careful of infections for the rest of my life so I don't have a comfortable feeling about it now. I have a script of antibiotics the surgeon gave me for if & when I get sick to start taking so regardless what the doctor said I am going to treat it like I am going to the dentist & take them before I go for the test.

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    Question though, if you went to get surgery, did you not also go and see a specialist for that? because i would say it is a combination between the two (i.e. information that the specialist should have asked as well as information your doctor should have passed on). It does sound like something is not right there but you would have to take up with the appropriate registering body where you are (these usually are the people that deal with things like what you have gone through, will investigate the doctor and will let you know if it is worth pursuing a legal case against said doctors. So that might also be something else to consider. Im sorry to hear about all the things that happened to you, its very difficult when there are problems with communication between doctors like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek61 View Post
    Question though, if you went to get surgery, did you not also go and see a specialist for that? because i would say it is a combination between the two (i.e. information that the specialist should have asked as well as information your doctor should have passed on). It does sound like something is not right there but you would have to take up with the appropriate registering body where you are (these usually are the people that deal with things like what you have gone through, will investigate the doctor and will let you know if it is worth pursuing a legal case against said doctors. So that might also be something else to consider. Im sorry to hear about all the things that happened to you, its very difficult when there are problems with communication between doctors like that.
    Both the surgeon & my MD failed to take me off the one med that caused me to flat line. My surgeon even took the time to tell me a story about the medication & how the one maker of lipitor was suing another company for having the same ingredient. But totally failed to tell me to stop taking it. Only thing the had me stop was the fish oil supplement. I had seen my regular MD the day before surgery to get his release & he asked what meds did I stop. I should have questioned him when he hesitated after I told him I was still on the drug. But he said nothing. I died. My wife, kids, mom, & family almost lost me because of this. THE ONLY reason I have not gone to a lawyer yet is because the doctors saved my life. I am the last person on this earth who would go out of his way to sue someone for a mistake. They are doctors, not gods, they make mistakes but to continue the nonsense after something like this is intolerable.

    I am willing to live with the fact that I have no spleen & need to become a germaphobic. I am willing to deal with now having to get inoculations every year, I can deal with this huge scar I now have to wear for the rest of my life, I am trying to deal with the numbness I have all over my belly that will never go away. Hopefully one day they will be able to tell me why the hell I lost feeling in 3 toes on my left foot. Hopefully one day I will be able to return to my chiropractor to relieve the pain in my herniated disc (still cannot lay on my stomach for adjustments). Once the hematology report is back to see if I have some rare blood disorder or it actually was the medicine that caused me to tank, & after I get the full cardo work up done to see if I had permanent damage done to my heart. If everything comes back all clear & I can live some what of a normal life after it is all said & done then I may reconsider. Until that time comes I am preparing my case.
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    The expected infection would be a UTI from the cath which is an easy fix. I was curious about the infections and 'life without a spleen' because I'm not real familiar with what the spleen really did so I started looking it up. The one thing most of the sites were all saying was that you had to worry about some of the "big" infections like malaria and the flu and some others but the replies ppl said on the forums said as long as they took the yearly shots they were good. I did notice that they said every time before dental surgery a lot the other major thing. One lady said she takes Amoxicillin every day for the rest of her life. Sux bro.. I'm sorry this happened to ya.

    I even read a malpractice question on it and they said while you could get 'some' for it that it was a hard case. I'm guessing they didn't think you should stop it from the surgery type but cutting the spleen even without blood thinners causes major hemorrhaging all by itself. If they didn't cut it you prolly would have been fine even with the Lipitor but he screwed up. If you have a lot of doc bills or the cost of constant antibiotics isn't covered then I would prolly look for compensation to help with that. Just my lil "internet search based" guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitsiulla View Post
    The expected infection would be a UTI from the cath which is an easy fix. I was curious about the infections and 'life without a spleen' because I'm not real familiar with what the spleen really did so I started looking it up. The one thing most of the sites were all saying was that you had to worry about some of the "big" infections like malaria and the flu and some others but the replies ppl said on the forums said as long as they took the yearly shots they were good. I did notice that they said every time before dental surgery a lot the other major thing. One lady said she takes Amoxicillin every day for the rest of her life. Sux bro.. I'm sorry this happened to ya.

    I even read a malpractice question on it and they said while you could get 'some' for it that it was a hard case. I'm guessing they didn't think you should stop it from the surgery type but cutting the spleen even without blood thinners causes major hemorrhaging all by itself. If they didn't cut it you prolly would have been fine even with the Lipitor but he screwed up. If you have a lot of doc bills or the cost of constant antibiotics isn't covered then I would prolly look for compensation to help with that. Just my lil "internet search based" guess.
    I have been on all those sites as well & have seen the replies range from the "no big deal" to the "I'm Fu..ed for the rest of my life". I just want to know where I land in that range. I have good insurance so out of the $136,224.44 the insurance paid the doctors I paid about $300 in Co-pays.
    Once I get my final health report from the rest of the doctors & no other damage was done, like to my heart, & if I can/they can do something about the scar tissue & numbness I am supposed to "just deal with" for the rest of my life. I'll decide then.
    I still am quite sore for being 5 months out from surgery & am told it could take up to a year before some sort of normalcy can be expected. I am....was an extremely active person, so to go from "doing non stop activities" to cant even open a freaking jar really depresses the hell out of me.

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