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Thread: Anime/Manga ban in Tokyo

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    Angry Anime/Manga ban in Tokyo

    Yeah I searched the forum and couldn't find anything about this so I thought I'd tell the community.

    Anyway, in Japan they are giving publisher's until April 11, 2011 to regulate itself and tone down on sexual themes and content. And starting July 1, 2011 those breaking those rules will be fined.

    Here's the whole article;


    And the link: CBC News - Books - Tokyo enacts restrictions on manga, anime

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    Sounds like a fair revision to law to me, I'm not sure what the publishers are getting uppity about. Keep the dirty stuff out of the hands of minors, no biggie.

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    Yeah I see no problem with this, the title of this thread as well as the OP's comments are a bit misleading.

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    I posted it without reading it twice. :I I just got excited and upset at the same time and didn't realize what it really meant. Lulz. Sorry guize.

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    All that means is that kids can't get their hands on loli / shota so easily.

    And that is not necessarily such a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaworuVsDrWily View Post
    All that means is that kids can't get their hands on loli / shota so easily.

    And that is not necessarily such a bad thing.
    They should make that stuff unavailable to people over a certain age too...

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    I have mixed feelings about this, to be honest.

    The term "extreme sexual content" can be taken in so many different ways that it's ridiculous. If we're just focusing on reducing the amount of material related to sex crimes, then I'm, personally, pretty okay with that. I don't like rape as much as the next sane person. I just hope that they're not thinking that this will reduce sex-crime rates, though. That usually doesn't work, and it's almost the opposite. Places where porn is illegal have a much higher rate of sex crimes than places that don't. Think about it: If a paedophile with a rape fetish can't get his jollies off to manga, his sexual frustrations may mount to the point where he snaps and hurts an actual child. (Of course, the opposite could be said: A mentally unstable person with access to manga such as that may indeed 'try it out' if they read such material.)

    As for the age restriction... Eh, still mixed. I started reading and looking at porn when I was young, and I grew up to be a sane (in my eyes anyways), but kinky individual. And, as I learned, porn can keep kids from being compulsively sexually active. I had to give that very speech to my brother the other day. "I know you're going through puberty and girls are going to think that you're sexy and you're probably going to want to screw them... but just watch porn. Please, for the love of whatever's up there don't have sex. It's much easier to buy you a Playboy than it is to treat syphilis, pick pubic lice off of your crotch, or deal with a baby at 15."

    Is it a restriction of freedom of speech? Yes, certainly. Is it for the 'good of society's youth'? I don't know. Only time will tell. We thought the prohibition was a good idea, too, but we eventually repealed that when we realized that it was a stupid move.

    Not like it can stop torrents and the black market, though. It's like how downloading music is illegal unless you buy it. And, hell, who really buys music anyways?

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    I don't get why the media is putting such a positive spin on this law.

    It doesn't just cover "extreme sexual content." The legislation bans public viewing or sale of media that depicts anything illegal. Your villain killed someone? Someone has a sword or a gun? Congratulations, it's now rated X, can't be shown on public television, and can only be sold in adult stores. The wording of it is extremely ambiguous, and with the extremely conservative, admittedly anime-hating governor they have, it's going to get milked for all it's worth. Companies aren't going to risk losing 90% of their sales by making people have to go out of their way to get their product, so they'll have to bend to it. Meaning absolutely nothing but conflict-free slice of life manga and anime after April. This is not a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neonite View Post
    I don't get why the media is putting such a positive spin on this law.

    It doesn't just cover "extreme sexual content." The legislation bans public viewing or sale of media that depicts anything illegal. Your villain killed someone? Someone has a sword or a gun? Congratulations, it's now rated X, can't be shown on public television, and can only be sold in adult stores. The wording of it is extremely ambiguous, and with the extremely conservative, admittedly anime-hating governor they have, it's going to get milked for all it's worth. Companies aren't going to risk losing 90% of their sales by making people have to go out of their way to get their product, so they'll have to bend to it. Meaning absolutely nothing but conflict-free slice of life manga and anime after April. This is not a good thing.
    This is something that drives me crazy. About a decade or so ago, Congress (USA) passed a law called the CPPA which had a number of provisions aimed at making child pornography riskier to produce and distribute on the internet. One thing it made illegal was virtual pornography- ie, child pornography is illegal whether the children are real or generated on a computer. It was also thought- though never tested- that this could make textual descriptions also illegal. In other words, the person who writes a completely fictional story involving someone underage is as much the pornographer as the dude exploiting real children on camera.

    My question is: where does this end? Philosophically, it sets the precedent that a fictitious representation of illegal activity is just as legally culpable as the actual activity. If you don't see the problem with this, every person associated with just about every action movie will be sent to jail. But what about giving such laws an exception for bona fide artistic works? Please. Go to Blockbuster and look at the straight-to-DVD movies. There's tons of crap out there that no one's going to call a serious work of art.

    Fortunately, the Supreme Court struck down the CPPA, but on the basis of it being to vague to enforce rather than on grounds of its constitutionality. In other words, they didn't find the law constitutionally unsound, they just found it to be messy legislation. So Congress could easily repass similar provisions if it ever got a mind to. Sadly (IMO), obscenity isn't considered protected speech.

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